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So tweets like that ... is there a serious contingent of old cranky GOPers like Grassley and, I don't know, McCain, who are just so clearly discomfited by what's going on yet feel totally compelled to go along with it anyway? Like, if its a bad idea, why wait until it fails to complain? Or for that matter, why complain but just do it anyway? They're just complete cowards, right, but you'd think decades of experience would have taught them how to better navigate through this shit, unless this situation was truly never imagined. When they bump into true believers, old coots like Corwyn and young assholes like Gowdy alike, can they just not believe their ears, or at they (like apparently Hatch) just totally not listening? A shithead like McConnell, has he been rubbing his hands with glee since election day, or secretly panicking that his grand plan will be undone by dicks like Cruz and morons like Trump? It's a shame we'll likely never get an honest accounting from these dummies when the dust has settled in a couple of decades.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 July 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

everybody but trump knows this is nowhere, la la la

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/08/haley-russia-election-meddling-240323

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 9 July 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link

Milkshake Duck

If only he could bring such powerful condemnation to the antisemitic cultural marxism conspiracy theory he advocates https://t.co/5WOiQ3lCM6

— Eleanor Robertson (@marrowing) July 9, 2017

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 9 July 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link

That @marrowing thread is a fun one

El Tomboto, Sunday, 9 July 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link

Hey if a white imperialist antisemite wants to make himself look good by shitting on Donnie Two Scoops who am I to argue!

El Tomboto, Sunday, 9 July 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

Thank you @SenatorDole, very kind! pic.twitter.com/cXrYiK46Qq

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 9, 2017

so was bob dole always this bad or is he confused because he's 94

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 July 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 5 hours ago

Sanctions were not discussed at my meeting with President Putin. Nothing will be done until the Ukrainian & Syrian problems are solved!

i believe this, actually

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 July 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

Bob Dole worked in a different era, so he was not always that bad, but he always had the potential to be that bad, if circumstances had allowed it.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 9 July 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link

(Ron Howard narrator voice) the circumstances allowed it.

nice cage (m bison), Sunday, 9 July 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

Bob Dole should've been president in '96.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 July 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

v weird to imagine the universe where dole was still president in 2004

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 9 July 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

He's not dead yet and its the GOP. What will come first, the first centenarian prez or first female prez?

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

xxp

i think there's an interesting argument that hw bush and/or dole winning against clinton probably would have been better for keeping the GOP a more moderate party and the democrats mightve started saying "we cant win being the gop-lite like clinton!" but it's such a depressing thought

nice cage (m bison), Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

lol burn

.@realDonaldTrump's performance at the #G20 shows he "has no desire and no capacity to lead the world": @CUhlmann https://t.co/0ithCHSWyK pic.twitter.com/iW0X78UNVZ

— ABC News (@abcnews) July 9, 2017

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

i think there's an interesting argument that hw bush and/or dole winning against clinton probably would have been better for keeping the GOP a more moderate party and the democrats mightve started saying "we cant win being the gop-lite like clinton!" but it's such a depressing thought

The argument is stronger with Poppy Bush winning reelection (and it delays Dems losing House and Senate).

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

Counterfactuals are endless fun for the whole Internet

El Tomboto, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

So this Times story that just broke. Is this it?

Treeship, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

I don't know what it is yet, but I'm going to predict that no, it isn't it

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

Go to http://www.nytimes.com

Treeship, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

dude don't do that to people

President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

The meeting was also attended by his campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner only recently disclosed the meeting, though not its content, in confidential government documents described to The New York Times.

The Times reported the existence of the meeting on Saturday. But in subsequent interviews, the advisers and others revealed the motivation behind it.

The meeting — at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016, two weeks after Donald J. Trump clinched the Republican nomination — points to the central question in federal investigations of the Kremlin’s meddling in the presidential election: whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The accounts of the meeting represent the first public indication that at least some in the campaign were willing to accept Russian help.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

It's not "it" but it is hilarious

El Tomboto, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

Nothing substantial gets dropped on a sunday afternoon

Οὖτις, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

my god they are so dumb

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

Seeing it described like that, and that Donald Jr was allowed to be involved, makes me think they probably weren't capable of actually colluding. But sure seems as if they tried to. And a fun question is why Manafort and Kushner all of a sudden disclosed the meeting. Sure seems like something else is about to drop.

Frederik B, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

Again, Coen Bros movie, not LeCarre novel

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

Treesh I wasn't trying to be bad at the internet, I was just expressing the frustration that no matter what it is, it won't be the thing that takes trump down

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

Kushner could quite honestly be out over this. This is fucking stupid, and he is the only one of the three still involved in the administration.

Frederik B, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

but if kushner is out, who will take the lead on

peace in the middle east
opiod crisis
running government like a business
criminal justice reform
dipomacy with china and mexico
reforming VA healthcare

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

i mean, that's like the work of at least two normal people, right

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

Sorry karl i am at work otherwise i would have summarized it

Treeship, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

"it" will be GOP politicos suffering via Yam, and we might be a year or more away. so plz don't do that treesh

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

xpost oh no need! i headed to NYT a couple seconds after sending that post, i just wanted to be pre-emptively trenchant

because everybody loooooves that! :)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

This article sounds like attempted "collusion" which is the word we keep hearing

Treeship, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

How did Donald Trump Jr think this dirt would have been obtained?

Treeship, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

Getting rid of Kushner is optional atm. We still need to pry Bannon and Miller out of the WH. God knows what they're doing day after day, but it can't be good.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

This is so fucking stupid... Donald Jr really is one of the most stupid people on earth. I also love that Kushner and Manafort both disclosed the meeting at the same time, but neither of them apparently gave Don Jr a heads up. It's Kushner's brother-in-law, and he completely sold him out.

Frederik B, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

They're all bad.

Treeship, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

Xp

Treeship, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

imagine being the "smart" brother but you're Don Jr

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

How did Donald Trump Jr think this dirt would have been obtained?

― Treeship, 9. juli 2017 23:22 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To be absolutely fair, the meeting took place in June 6th, and the Crowdstrike report on the DNC hacking only came out on June 14th. So Donald Jr probably didn't know that the Russians were hacking, and just thought they'd found some dirt. Still, though, the whole thing is so fucking stupid.

Frederik B, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

imagine being the "good-looking" brother but you're Don Jr

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

A guy called Rinat Akhmetshin was running smear campaigns against prominent supporters of the Magnitsky act at the time - and working with the lawyer in question, Veselnitskaya, on behalf of the real estate company Prevezon. His job was to dig up and spin any dirt he could find. Prevezon, as was mentioned in the article, was under indictment for money laundering.

There isn't necessarily any link to hacking or government conspiracies but it definitely looks like they were lobbied directly by a company pretty obviously guilty of laundering large sums through NY real estate and who were, at the time, involved both in dirty tricks and in trying to get political leverage to drive down their liabilities.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

Y'all complained about "covfefe," but I'd rather deal with that thing than opening this thread to Scott Walker's endless plain of bland.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

I love that jr's defense is "yes i tried to collude, but the woman tricked me into taking a meeting about adoption"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

morbs otm if gop isn't frying, trump aint dying.

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

At the least it seems like something Trump Jr. gets to be questioned over (whether by Mueller, Senate Intelligence or both is what I wonder).

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

ppl are like, "who set up the meeting" and i'm like duh, hrc set up the meeting as organizer, through outlook on her email account.

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

I feel like the important part is that these shitbirds are turning on each other in press interviews now. That would seem to imply Mueller's team already has all this.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

Good point!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link


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