Do we see any nuclear Cardassian families? I can only remember Gul Madred bringing his son into work, but I think all the other prominent Cardassian families are estranged or separated.
― Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Friday, 14 July 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link
You'd think you'd at least ask someone to sit down before telling them that they'd unwittingly travelled 200 years into the future & all their friends and family were dead.
― The XX pants (ledge), Thursday, 27 July 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link
nana v turned 60 yesterday
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 July 2017 21:15 (seven years ago) link
at the half way mark & despite the minor snark am finally fully committed to this, it's definitely near enough tng quality now. so much going on - gul ducat vs cardassia, cardassia vs klingons, klingons vs worf, bajor vs itself. dominion have been laying low but it doesn't matter. even the quark episodes are keeping my attention. couple of highlights: 'our man bashir' which opens like a standard holodeck triviality but turns out to be for much higher stakes and has avery brooks going full shatner; and tony todd aka candyman as worf's brother & possibly the best klingon portrayal of all time.
― The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link
It was that Kurn episode that cemented me as a regular DS9 viewer.
What'd you think of "The Visitor"?
― Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Saturday, 29 July 2017 02:32 (seven years ago) link
oh shit that was tony todd too. it was... good? bold & original & successful at what it set out to do, it didn't move me to tears like apparently everyone else though, i guess i'm a cold hearted guy who would have abandoned my dad in limbo. also wtf at using the same actor for nog.
― The XX pants (ledge), Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:43 (seven years ago) link
fwiw i'm not that crazy about celebrated & similarly sentimental tng ep the inner light.
― The XX pants (ledge), Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:13 (seven years ago) link
Rather than putting pressure on the staff of Terok Nor I am donating the station to Bajor and renaming it Deep Space Nine. Thank you all!— Dukat (@realRealDukat) August 16, 2017
― mookieproof, Thursday, 17 August 2017 05:31 (seven years ago) link
Can't believe they're making light of the tragedy of the Cardassian occupation.
― angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Thursday, 17 August 2017 08:11 (seven years ago) link
into season five, they've decided to put the high stakes galactic games of thrones aside in favour of half a dozen whimsical character episodes and it suuuuuucks.
― Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
If you're talking about "In the Cards" or the one where Quark gets it on with a Klingon lady, then I don't know you anymore.
― (I am a robot.) (Leee), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
I'm only up to 7, i was mostly referring to worf being grumpy with dax on the pleasure planet, and the tribble one - yeah v clever, yawn. oh and jake's war zone correspondent crisis of confidence.
― Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 07:59 (six years ago) link
the v entertaining 'greatest generation' podcast has just finished its epic run through the entirety of next gen and has started on ds9 btw, might be a good jumping-on point for new listeners
― midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 10:44 (six years ago) link
Trials and Tribble-lations was great. I mean, c'mon:
https://i0.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/trialstribbleations14.jpg?resize=472%2C363&type=vertical
― Jeff, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link
I read somewhere that they did that episode thinking CG would make it feasible based on Forrest Gump and the "Buddy Holly" music video. The latter used no composite shots, no computer trickery.
In the 50 year mission ronald d moore says his "tribbles" pitch had two scenes: the tribble chute and the line-up after the fight. imo the only other joke they added was "look at how dated this all is".
― Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
Trying this podcast. No way I’m going to be able to deal with these guys. It will be a miracle if I can make it through the first ep.
― Jeff, Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link
noooooo
― midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:32 (six years ago) link
the greatest generation has some other fans on ilx, help me out here guys
― midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link
I guess there are some ok bits in there, but the jokes, I can’t. DS9 should be treated with reverence! Also they keep mispronouncing Nana Visitor’s name.
― Jeff, Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link
tbf i feel like objecting to the greatest generation on star trek purist grounds is acceptable
― midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link
It is making me want to do a rewatch though. Probably would be my 4th or 5th time through?
― Jeff, Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link
wait how is nana visitor's name pronounced
― mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link
Nah-nah
― Jeff, Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link
Give GG a chance. One problem with jumping in now is that much of the podcast features running gags that draw on 178 episodes of TNG, Trek ephemera, and a constellation of memes. You might first listen to some of the TNG episodes to get a feel for their schtick, which comes from a place of genuine affection for the show. When they're not making poop jokes, they can be very insightful, and they're not afraid to run against accepted wisdom on the series.
― Millsner, Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
Also, "In the Cards" is one of the most joyous episodes of DS9. Easily makes my top 10.
― Millsner, Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
The greatest gen guys are bigger Star Trek fans than they pretend to be. The 'a bit embarassed' part is a comedic role they play.
― Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Friday, 20 October 2017 05:59 (six years ago) link
I'm a bit embarrassed by their grown-up beavis & butthead act but it is a good show, if only for the picard/wesley (the boy!) running gag.
― Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Friday, 20 October 2017 08:28 (six years ago) link
picking this up again in s02 after a series of a/v issues
an oblivious odo turns into a monster every 16 hours: okay. i like the dude who plays his 'dad' (and that misguided romulan defector in tng)
bashir and o'brien are ambushed after helping to destroy biological weapons: i am not all that interested in how grumpy chief and puppy julian become friends
o'brien is a replicant: this was really good!
colony of settlers without technology: actress playing the bitchy colony leader did a great job; plot doesn't hold together, especially when they take her away to face justice (?) at the end and everyone's like, we don't mind being tricked and watching our friends die needlessly, we just love the community
old dude lives in fake settlement with hologram friends: rehash of tng episode (and maybe tos episode as well? can't remember)
trill hopeful interviews with dax: dax being rowdy was kind of fun, trill hopeful actor was bad, b-story with expanding proto-universe was hand-waved away in absurd fashion
cardassian dissident is quark's ex-lover: garak is always fun; everything else was terrible
main complaint is same as before (eg when quark let the terrorists who stole the dax symbiont onto the station) -- no consequences. in just this last one odo disobeys a direct order and frees the dissidents (presumably wrecking the chance for a prisoner transfer and creating a major diplomatic incident with cardassia), garak is very obviously revealed as a spy, quark gets away with dealing in cloaking devices, garak flat-out kills a cardassian gul and . . . nothing changes. everything goes back to normal at the end. c'mon
― mookieproof, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
the o'brien replicant episode is really well executed yeah
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
Many good O’Brien eps in DS9.
― Jeff, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/what-we-left-behind-star-trek-deep-space-nine-doc#/
Nooooo I missed out on the awesome tees and they're not selling them on the site store! 😣
https://ds9documentary.com/#content
― Potato Wave (Leee), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 06:25 (six years ago) link
Didn't know about that. Adam Nimoy's doc about his father wasn't bad, so I would definitely watch this
― Nhex, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 06:29 (six years ago) link
Aw, no Avery Brooks involvement? :( sad. Maybe they'll get him and RDM later.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 06:32 (six years ago) link
That's not surprising, but still disappointing. I always think of him as a reluctant participant in the Trek culture industry.
BTW those $200 cookies could've been mine too. 😭
― Potato Wave (Leee), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link
Still regret I didn't go for the dinner with nah nah.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link
Ah dangit missed a chance for a lol ahem If there's one thing O'Brien knows it's executions.
I just rewatched the second episode again, and can see where people might complain about Avery Brooks's acting -- his laugh when he's having dinner with Dax is soooooo weird.
― Entree 3000 (Leee), Saturday, 11 November 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
just watched 'crossover' to the mirror universe with sensual intendant kira
it was cool but also weird? like oh even minor bajoran plenipotentiaries know about alternate universes and have heard of james t. kirk and how he wrecked the terran empire
it was all worth it for salacious sisko tho
― mookieproof, Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:07 (six years ago) link
STEVEN BERKOFF
― Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Thursday, 30 November 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
vic fontaine fuck off
― clouds, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
the episode where he helps Nog with ptsd is good, though
― mh, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
Can’t get behind the Vic hate. Probably one of the best holographic characters in ST history.
― Jeff, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
low bar
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
yeah i loathed vic fontaine except for the episode with nog, which is one of the best episodes of the series
― scoff walker (diamonddave85), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
ooof just imagining joe piscopo trying to cheer up nog by replicating himself into a million jerry lewises.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
Hey this is pretty good
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
I watched the S2 3 part opener and it felt to me like the BSG season that opened in the prison camp--a serious impressive arc that gets kinda haplessly left behind for more episodic stuff as the season proceeds.
Bashir is fuckin annoying
Dax is a better idea than she is character
Odo's a fuckin fascist
I'm super into the colonizer/colonized storylines that I feel like deal with morally tangled stuff well but man could I do without seeing more than a few minutes of quark ever again.
Wasn't that impressed by the introduction of the rebel colonists that everybody says is great
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link
Been sick all weekend so I just tore through all of season 2
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
This series would have been even better if Roddenberry's original vision of the Ferengi as big-dicked sex villains had lived on.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 18 December 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link
Did it not
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link
Ugh nog is the most annoying
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 05:37 (six years ago) link