Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Also that Laura clip was kind of weird

So Richard Horne has to be Audrey's son, right?

Also I'm very curious as to whom EvilCoop was talking to in that photo.

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So Richard Horne has to be Audrey's son, right?

― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:17 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

unless johnny somehow had a kid there's no other explanation. pretty sure the secret history mentions something about there only being johnny and audrey in the horne family. together with doc hayward's comment about bad coop "visiting" audrey in hospital 25 years ago, it's all pointing to richard being the demon spawn of bad coop (most likely BOB) and audrey.

the show is slowly but firmly moving from series-of-mysteries to series-of-facts, even with new mysteries being thrown on the pile ever so often (e.g. the log lady's brand new stream of riddles)

*every so often

This was one of the more succinct and straightforward episodes so far.

log lady scenes hit me hard

I thought this episode was spectacular and quite relentless; it also felt the most like the old Twin Peaks so far (with dread arising both from the various instances of violence and from Laura appearing outside Gordon's room and then Tammy arriving in portentous slow motion). It also struck me as one of the more ~problematic~ ones in its depiction of women so far.

Good episode but...

#1: I heard a few moments of Auto-Tune on Rebekah Del Rio, was there someone in the band live processing (or using a vocoder)?

#2: Not sure I buy into Dr. Jacoby morphing from a chill aloha-bro who loves golf to this piss and vinegar Howard Beale... without some sort of back-story or prompting at least.

There was def autotune, I think she was just miming in classic twin peaks/mulholland dr fashion

Although voices & instruments being processed as if by magic is an established thing in this world, if you think back to one of the greatest scenes in the original (James singing in the living room)

Dancing OTM with the problematic depiction of women in this ep

I heard directly from David Lynch that the final episode of Twin Peaks will be all Moby

i always think "i bet that's the last time i'll ever think about moby", and then about a year later, there he is again

I clocked all the dudes in her band but they just looked like dudes in a band, then I saw the moby credit as "musician" and I was like I bet he was one of those dudes but I couldn't tell you which one

the bald white guy with the glasses, or maybe the other bald white guy with the glasses

the one playing guitar

(sussed by a bald dude who has worn glasses)

the question that keeps me coming back is, when will richard horne get supermurdered

Only one woman for the job imo - filicide, baby!

Killing Miriam, choking his grandma & then calling her a cunt, threatening to rape his mentally ill uncle: hate to say it but this guy was more sympathetic when he was flattening that kid. Conversely belushi's menace dissipated as soon as he had more than a few lines.

As fun as Albert on a date & other light relief is, once again what saves this from being just oppressively bleak is Carl & Margaret's rueful empathy; that roadhouse performance was only missing an ancient waiter saying "I'm so sorry" to a crying Bobby

Maybe i was just feeling cranky by then because this episode was a big let down for me, but man I did not enjoy that rebekah del rio song at all. It was way too oversung with nothing interesting going on there. I kept waiting for sky ferreira's character to come back but i was disappointed.

In contrast, that little bit with carl singing on his guitar was such a charming offhand moment.

Loved the R. Del Rio song. She also sang the song in Mulholland Dr., the one where the performer falls down and the singing continues.

I know that technically wouldn't have been his grandma if so, but...what if Richard is Donna's son?

Not my fave episode by a long shot. The stuff with the mobsters and Candie went on too long and was unfunny. Dug the Gordon hotel scene. Dougie stuff was mainly ehh but Naomi Watts really gorg when she plays "flirty". Overall though way too choppy and all over the place.

Besides Audrey, is Big Ed the only original series regular who hasn't made an appearance yet? It occurred to me that Margaret's conversation with Hawk presages the return of the Bookhouse Boys, which would mean we're likely to see him soon, not to mention more James.

Sadly, the actor who played Joey Paulson does not appear to be in the new series.

Yeah the autotune in that Del Rio song was off-putting. I keep expecting Lana Del Rey to appear in an episode but maybe that's too obvious.

Speaking of characters who deserve to get supermurdered - CHAD

chad is perfect

rewatching bits, noticed constance and albert are at a sort of dinner table and the conversation is sort of lively. probably nothing but fuck knows what counts as not-nothing in this show.

this was a great episode imo, and also oddly v straightforward and focused

oh, and are we now to believe that Diane is in cahoots with bad cooper? and so was her reaction to him at the prison a charade?

i got the impression she's been roped into something she doesn't want a part of, so maybe historical involvement? maybe she was coerced into something? who knows

Props to Kyle and Naomi for a sex scene that managed to be both funny and sweet. Definitely a sense of gathering dread here tho. The Log Lady's warnings to Hawk had the vibe of getting ready for some nasty stuff, and then the song is "No Stars." I think we can anticipate hellishness ahead.

Maybe that's DoppelDiane instead of Real Diane.

We still don't know who Linda is, do we?

i guess RUN SILENT RUN DRAPES is nadine's business? or was that a vision? why would she have a shovel in the window

to shovel herself out of the shit

hell yeah

I liked how Candie went down to the casino floor and gave Sizemore the weather report, like Lynch used to do on his website.

I was trying to figure out if that's really what she was saying, but then I remember the fly-swatting scene. Yeah, that was probably it.

oh, and are we now to believe that Diane is in cahoots with bad cooper? and so was her reaction to him at the prison a charade?

― akm, Monday, July 17, 2017 5:58 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i sorta feel like gordon, albert, and tammy don't have all the information here

it looked like she was down there talking about the mr jackpots day, pointing around the casino etc xp

I'm sure in the grand scheme of things this episode is not much different from most of the others, but it seemed a lot more pulpy and the dialogue more ham-fisted (on purpose) for large stretches.

Sizemore's extended riff on Dougie ending with him making, for absolute sure, that they know they "have an enemy in Douglas Jones" was leaving me guessing about which party thought the other one was dumber

AA, that'd make sense, it'd be big news but she would know the brothers are pissed

Brad otm about the Diane situation. We're only getting bits and pieces of the last couple decades. We know she's been in contact with him at some point, but whether it was continuing to work together until she skipped out because he's evil, or if he's somehow blackmailing her with the promise the real Dale is out there, it's unclear

The other possibility, that she's still willingly working for him, seems really unlikely giving her visceral reaction back at the prison

Is Janey-E wearing the same thing every day? I feel like another shoe will drop w/ that character (Naomi has been fantastic).

Sizemore doing Ed Sullivan with the hand gestures and hairstyle?

before bed i just want to state the obvious about bad coop, which is that the two photos of him that we've seen (one stood in the nyc glass box room, one stood outside the big-arse mansion in the tropics) point to him being the billionaire and/or working for a billionaire

nm about Janey-E's outfits, not sure why I thought that.

i paused and tried to see who bad cooper was talking to by the big glass box in the photo, but i couldn't tell who it was. it looked like a bald (?) guy with glasses (?) in a trenchcoat (?) in the foreground and someone else behind him