Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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nah

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

't Was an honest question, but I'll gladly believe you.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

It's just that part of Lynch's schtick is resisting interpretation, so I can't really see him being okay with promoting any specific angle in public

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

Yeah that's probably true.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

Coordinating social media usage by cast members probably not even necessary when most of them don't even know themselves where the fuck this is going

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

haha yes.

tbh this is also why I find some of the "look at THIS hidden clue! What does it MEAN?!" sort of stuff ridiculous, these kinds of takes seem to ignore Lynch's general M.O., which has never really involved burying "hidden" clues using complex cryptographic methods. He trafficks in imagery and synchronicities and parallels and encourages drawing connections that work on this kind of dream-logic level, but he is not Vince Gilligan, his stuff is generally not designed like some mechanistic, clockwork puzzle that buries easter eggs to reward the obsessive viewer (a good ex. here is the acrostic Gus Fring clue in the show titles of a recent season of Breaking Bad - Lynch would never do that shit)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

You know who would, though?

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

I feel like the closest he's come to that is the Bad Cooper "yrev"/fingerprint thing but even that (associating a reversed word in a ten word phrase with a reversed fingerprint) comes across like a leap of intuition from Gordon rather than some more straightforward Sherlock Holmes sort of sleuthing.

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

Oh I agree Shakey. But stuff like the thing sticking out of the bumper of the Saturn van, the lights changing on the plane windows... I refuse to believe that's chance or meaningless. Yet I also def don't think it's DO YOU SEE from Lynch. I also don't think it's trolling. And yet it's there... *makes u think*

(I am def not myself a clue figure-outerer so am almost glad not everything is a big hint or something)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

itisamystery.jpg prob otm. it is what it is and I'm overthinking this again. this show does that though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

it's strange to think that there was a time when it looked like this season could have gone ahead without lynch's involvement, i'd be very curious to take a peek into the parallel universe where that actually happened

I've never really thought that could have happened. They just wouldn't have pulled the plug until they were certain he was through negotiating.

Chris L, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

yeah the cast video made it p clear it was lynch or nothing

so part 11 is being previewed at this comic convention tomorrow & spoilers are inevitably gonna be out there, if anyone comes across any can we agree not to post them itt before sunday?

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

comiccon is such a vile institution at this point

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link

whatever it is is none of my business

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

You know who would, though?

Poor Mark Frost, always the bridesmaid

sciatica, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

comicon is gross af

had some great years there when it was still, y'know, a comic con though

or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

when I describe what it was like when I was a teenager to modern day attendees it's like I am describing some sort of long-lost ancient continent

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

(see also: Burning Man, glaciers, book stores etc.)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

Regardless of his apparent irl cuntiness, I think the absence of Michael Anderson in the show is sad. I miss him more than anything else in the TP world.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link

^ that and Julee Cruise who I know will show up at some point!

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link

totally with wins here, let's not post spoilers re: episode 11

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link

let's post spoilers lads

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 July 2017 05:45 (six years ago) link

lol I'd actually completely forgotten about Anderson. He was really great in his 2 episodes but idk I can't really say I've felt his absence any more than I do the giant's from fwwm, say

I miss jack nance

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link

I grieve more for Anderson's falling out with Lynch than his absence in the return. feels like his seemingly lifetime-spanning death dream could be the good times making art with Lynch before the no hay banda kicks in. but that's also because I only know him from Lynch stuff, and it's probably far from reality.

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:32 (six years ago) link

someone theorized that Ike is a piss-take of Anderson, but that might be offensive..so not sure how comfy I feel saying that.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:33 (six years ago) link

Are you taking the piss, wins? How could you forget about him? He's the one absolutely iconic twin peaks figure.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:35 (six years ago) link

what about laura palmer, or special agent dale cooper

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 July 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link

or james

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 July 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link

Wins "forgot" the small man talking backwards? Jesus.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link

Absolute nonsense.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

I mean I can remember those scenes duh, I mean in the context of the new season. It hasn't been anywhere near the forefront of my mind with all this other stuff going on

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

the character definitely had a special part in the snl sketch (in the episode that cooper hosted)

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:43 (six years ago) link

With say Audrey's absence you know she's coming so you think about it. Anderson isn't in this, they showed us in the second episode that the character evolved and I haven't thought about it since

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:46 (six years ago) link

Right. Okay.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:47 (six years ago) link

Anderson is an integral part of the Twin Peaks feel. I mostly forgot about him cuz of his insane ramblings off-screen, otherwise his absence would feel like a considerable bummer

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link

You forgot about him because of his insane ramblings? Seems more like you remembered him for them.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:58 (six years ago) link

What I mean Jed is I was ready to forget about his inclusion in this show because of that.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:00 (six years ago) link

I support Lynch's exclusion of him

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:01 (six years ago) link

Who cares about that? I'm not going to talk about it any more I just find it weird that people would forget or pretend to forget that very important character.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:05 (six years ago) link

pretend to forget!?

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:16 (six years ago) link

Yes

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:20 (six years ago) link

As I think I posted already like 5 posts up, I wasn't saying I literally forgot who Michael J Anderson is, I just haven't thought about him while watching this thing he isn't in. There are very important characters who were in every episode of the original and who aren't in fwwm, and I don't think of them while watching it either. It isn't that strange.

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link

Yeah c'mon guys. No TP fan forgets about M.J.A., it's a shame he's not in this but here we are.

I miss Michael Ontkean the most. His Harry Truman was phenomenal, his chemistry with Hawk, Coop etc one of the highlights of the show. I do still think about him when I see Robert Forster playing Truman, even if the latter is doing a great job.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 21 July 2017 11:05 (six years ago) link

Robert Forster should be a cheap workaround but he's so phenomenal in the show that it feels like he's been a part of the series all along

Evan R, Friday, 21 July 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

He was the original choice for the first Sheriff Truman, I think.

Alba, Friday, 21 July 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

Yeah there's a real elegance to that. I also love how they've kept Harry in the frame, or only just out of it

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

Ontkean was the one actor I was looking forward to seeing the most. I'm bummed he's not in it but I agree they've done a good job with Forster both in terms of performance and the way he's written. Forster is a master of pretending he's talking to someone on the phone.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 21 July 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

MJA is a deeply troubled dude with a lot of unforgivable opinions on race and religion as well as David Lynch. Don't miss him at all.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 21 July 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

I thought it was a stretch making the new sheriff Harry's brother, but yeah I love how it keeps Harry in the story (and it's fitting, given how much of the series is an homage to dead or off-screen characters). The Mrs. Briggs scene alone justified the choice to make Forster a Truman

Evan R, Friday, 21 July 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link


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