Coordinating social media usage by cast members probably not even necessary when most of them don't even know themselves where the fuck this is going
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link
haha yes.
tbh this is also why I find some of the "look at THIS hidden clue! What does it MEAN?!" sort of stuff ridiculous, these kinds of takes seem to ignore Lynch's general M.O., which has never really involved burying "hidden" clues using complex cryptographic methods. He trafficks in imagery and synchronicities and parallels and encourages drawing connections that work on this kind of dream-logic level, but he is not Vince Gilligan, his stuff is generally not designed like some mechanistic, clockwork puzzle that buries easter eggs to reward the obsessive viewer (a good ex. here is the acrostic Gus Fring clue in the show titles of a recent season of Breaking Bad - Lynch would never do that shit)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link
You know who would, though?
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
I feel like the closest he's come to that is the Bad Cooper "yrev"/fingerprint thing but even that (associating a reversed word in a ten word phrase with a reversed fingerprint) comes across like a leap of intuition from Gordon rather than some more straightforward Sherlock Holmes sort of sleuthing.
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
Oh I agree Shakey. But stuff like the thing sticking out of the bumper of the Saturn van, the lights changing on the plane windows... I refuse to believe that's chance or meaningless. Yet I also def don't think it's DO YOU SEE from Lynch. I also don't think it's trolling. And yet it's there... *makes u think*
(I am def not myself a clue figure-outerer so am almost glad not everything is a big hint or something)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link
itisamystery.jpg prob otm. it is what it is and I'm overthinking this again. this show does that though.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link
it's strange to think that there was a time when it looked like this season could have gone ahead without lynch's involvement, i'd be very curious to take a peek into the parallel universe where that actually happened
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link
I've never really thought that could have happened. They just wouldn't have pulled the plug until they were certain he was through negotiating.
― Chris L, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link
yeah the cast video made it p clear it was lynch or nothing
so part 11 is being previewed at this comic convention tomorrow & spoilers are inevitably gonna be out there, if anyone comes across any can we agree not to post them itt before sunday?
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link
comiccon is such a vile institution at this point
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link
whatever it is is none of my business
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link
Poor Mark Frost, always the bridesmaid
― sciatica, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link
comicon is gross af
had some great years there when it was still, y'know, a comic con though
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link
when I describe what it was like when I was a teenager to modern day attendees it's like I am describing some sort of long-lost ancient continent
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link
(see also: Burning Man, glaciers, book stores etc.)
Regardless of his apparent irl cuntiness, I think the absence of Michael Anderson in the show is sad. I miss him more than anything else in the TP world.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 01:40 (seven years ago) link
^ that and Julee Cruise who I know will show up at some point!
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 01:44 (seven years ago) link
totally with wins here, let's not post spoilers re: episode 11
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 01:51 (seven years ago) link
let's post spoilers lads
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 July 2017 05:45 (seven years ago) link
lol I'd actually completely forgotten about Anderson. He was really great in his 2 episodes but idk I can't really say I've felt his absence any more than I do the giant's from fwwm, say
I miss jack nance
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 05:53 (seven years ago) link
I grieve more for Anderson's falling out with Lynch than his absence in the return. feels like his seemingly lifetime-spanning death dream could be the good times making art with Lynch before the no hay banda kicks in. but that's also because I only know him from Lynch stuff, and it's probably far from reality.
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:32 (seven years ago) link
someone theorized that Ike is a piss-take of Anderson, but that might be offensive..so not sure how comfy I feel saying that.
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:33 (seven years ago) link
Are you taking the piss, wins? How could you forget about him? He's the one absolutely iconic twin peaks figure.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:35 (seven years ago) link
what about laura palmer, or special agent dale cooper
― Karl Malone, Friday, 21 July 2017 06:39 (seven years ago) link
or james
Wins "forgot" the small man talking backwards? Jesus.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:39 (seven years ago) link
Absolute nonsense.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:42 (seven years ago) link
I mean I can remember those scenes duh, I mean in the context of the new season. It hasn't been anywhere near the forefront of my mind with all this other stuff going on
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:42 (seven years ago) link
the character definitely had a special part in the snl sketch (in the episode that cooper hosted)
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:43 (seven years ago) link
With say Audrey's absence you know she's coming so you think about it. Anderson isn't in this, they showed us in the second episode that the character evolved and I haven't thought about it since
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:46 (seven years ago) link
Right. Okay.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:47 (seven years ago) link
Anderson is an integral part of the Twin Peaks feel. I mostly forgot about him cuz of his insane ramblings off-screen, otherwise his absence would feel like a considerable bummer
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:54 (seven years ago) link
You forgot about him because of his insane ramblings? Seems more like you remembered him for them.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:58 (seven years ago) link
What I mean Jed is I was ready to forget about his inclusion in this show because of that.
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:00 (seven years ago) link
I support Lynch's exclusion of him
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:01 (seven years ago) link
Who cares about that? I'm not going to talk about it any more I just find it weird that people would forget or pretend to forget that very important character.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:05 (seven years ago) link
pretend to forget!?
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:16 (seven years ago) link
Yes
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 21 July 2017 07:20 (seven years ago) link
As I think I posted already like 5 posts up, I wasn't saying I literally forgot who Michael J Anderson is, I just haven't thought about him while watching this thing he isn't in. There are very important characters who were in every episode of the original and who aren't in fwwm, and I don't think of them while watching it either. It isn't that strange.
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 09:50 (seven years ago) link
Yeah c'mon guys. No TP fan forgets about M.J.A., it's a shame he's not in this but here we are.
I miss Michael Ontkean the most. His Harry Truman was phenomenal, his chemistry with Hawk, Coop etc one of the highlights of the show. I do still think about him when I see Robert Forster playing Truman, even if the latter is doing a great job.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 21 July 2017 11:05 (seven years ago) link
Robert Forster should be a cheap workaround but he's so phenomenal in the show that it feels like he's been a part of the series all along
― Evan R, Friday, 21 July 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
He was the original choice for the first Sheriff Truman, I think.
― Alba, Friday, 21 July 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link
Yeah there's a real elegance to that. I also love how they've kept Harry in the frame, or only just out of it
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link
Ontkean was the one actor I was looking forward to seeing the most. I'm bummed he's not in it but I agree they've done a good job with Forster both in terms of performance and the way he's written. Forster is a master of pretending he's talking to someone on the phone.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 21 July 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link
MJA is a deeply troubled dude with a lot of unforgivable opinions on race and religion as well as David Lynch. Don't miss him at all.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 21 July 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link
I thought it was a stretch making the new sheriff Harry's brother, but yeah I love how it keeps Harry in the story (and it's fitting, given how much of the series is an homage to dead or off-screen characters). The Mrs. Briggs scene alone justified the choice to make Forster a Truman
― Evan R, Friday, 21 July 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link
Love Forster & his relationship to Harry but Hawk should be Sheriff & Forster Deputy Sheriff or whatever Hawk currently is.
A small complaint maybe but one that nags at me a bit in their scenes.
― sciatica, Friday, 21 July 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link
In the original series when Harry was indisposed Hawk declined the role of acting sheriff because he hated paperwork, so there is some explanation for that although maybe not a wholly satisfactory one
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 21 July 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link
being sheriff is an entire political dimension that I fully support dodging
― mh, Friday, 21 July 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link
IIRC there's something in the Secret History (canon) about the TP sheriffs having been Trumans going back a ways. And I believe the current Sheriff Truman was actually sheriff prior to his brother's tenure?
― The miniaturized human skeleton in Martin Short's stool (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 July 2017 17:48 (seven years ago) link