Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

lol I'd actually completely forgotten about Anderson. He was really great in his 2 episodes but idk I can't really say I've felt his absence any more than I do the giant's from fwwm, say

I miss jack nance

I grieve more for Anderson's falling out with Lynch than his absence in the return. feels like his seemingly lifetime-spanning death dream could be the good times making art with Lynch before the no hay banda kicks in. but that's also because I only know him from Lynch stuff, and it's probably far from reality.

someone theorized that Ike is a piss-take of Anderson, but that might be offensive..so not sure how comfy I feel saying that.

Are you taking the piss, wins? How could you forget about him? He's the one absolutely iconic twin peaks figure.

what about laura palmer, or special agent dale cooper

or james

Wins "forgot" the small man talking backwards? Jesus.

Absolute nonsense.

I mean I can remember those scenes duh, I mean in the context of the new season. It hasn't been anywhere near the forefront of my mind with all this other stuff going on

the character definitely had a special part in the snl sketch (in the episode that cooper hosted)

With say Audrey's absence you know she's coming so you think about it. Anderson isn't in this, they showed us in the second episode that the character evolved and I haven't thought about it since

Right. Okay.

Anderson is an integral part of the Twin Peaks feel. I mostly forgot about him cuz of his insane ramblings off-screen, otherwise his absence would feel like a considerable bummer

You forgot about him because of his insane ramblings? Seems more like you remembered him for them.

What I mean Jed is I was ready to forget about his inclusion in this show because of that.

I support Lynch's exclusion of him

Who cares about that? I'm not going to talk about it any more I just find it weird that people would forget or pretend to forget that very important character.

pretend to forget!?

Yes

As I think I posted already like 5 posts up, I wasn't saying I literally forgot who Michael J Anderson is, I just haven't thought about him while watching this thing he isn't in. There are very important characters who were in every episode of the original and who aren't in fwwm, and I don't think of them while watching it either. It isn't that strange.

Yeah c'mon guys. No TP fan forgets about M.J.A., it's a shame he's not in this but here we are.

I miss Michael Ontkean the most. His Harry Truman was phenomenal, his chemistry with Hawk, Coop etc one of the highlights of the show. I do still think about him when I see Robert Forster playing Truman, even if the latter is doing a great job.

Robert Forster should be a cheap workaround but he's so phenomenal in the show that it feels like he's been a part of the series all along

He was the original choice for the first Sheriff Truman, I think.

Yeah there's a real elegance to that. I also love how they've kept Harry in the frame, or only just out of it

Ontkean was the one actor I was looking forward to seeing the most. I'm bummed he's not in it but I agree they've done a good job with Forster both in terms of performance and the way he's written. Forster is a master of pretending he's talking to someone on the phone.

MJA is a deeply troubled dude with a lot of unforgivable opinions on race and religion as well as David Lynch. Don't miss him at all.

I thought it was a stretch making the new sheriff Harry's brother, but yeah I love how it keeps Harry in the story (and it's fitting, given how much of the series is an homage to dead or off-screen characters). The Mrs. Briggs scene alone justified the choice to make Forster a Truman

Love Forster & his relationship to Harry but Hawk should be Sheriff & Forster Deputy Sheriff or whatever Hawk currently is.

A small complaint maybe but one that nags at me a bit in their scenes.

In the original series when Harry was indisposed Hawk declined the role of acting sheriff because he hated paperwork, so there is some explanation for that although maybe not a wholly satisfactory one

being sheriff is an entire political dimension that I fully support dodging

IIRC there's something in the Secret History (canon) about the TP sheriffs having been Trumans going back a ways. And I believe the current Sheriff Truman was actually sheriff prior to his brother's tenure?

That's good wins, didn't remember that. But Hawk indeed strikes me as someone who should stay away from his desk as much as possible.

tree with mouth head is a better actor than little mikey (that's what lynch calls him on letterman)

Hawk has been a low-key MVP of this series. Aside from maybe Gordon, I think he's the only original character from the show who actually plays a bigger role in the new series

also his son in law irl is shitty hardcore punk rapper danny diablo

I, too, prefer the evolution of the arm to the OG arm, even just for within-universe reasons

I get a kick out of EotA and Jerry Horne's not-foot's cute little voices.

glad there's been some forster appreciation here. of the new cast members i feel like he's the one who'd most seamlessly fold into the atmosphere of the original show

They remind me of Marcel the Shell With Shoes On
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of the new cast members i feel like he's the one who'd most seamlessly fold into the atmosphere of the original show

definitely agree with this, though I'm also loving the way Naomi Watts completely cuts against the tone of the original show and makes every scene she's in hers and hers alone

I would bet The Arm will further evolve before this is over.

this is weirdly hypnotic

Nolan can almost do what he wants by now. He has earned the right with his extremely profitable Batman trilogy but also with the successful big movie Inception and Interstellar. He has taken the genres that are great today - superhero movies, science fiction and coup films - and created personal editions. What especially affects me like a movie like The Prestige, The Dark Knight or Interstellar is how generous they are. They only needed half as many plot twists or half as many pictures to be successful as the blockbusters they basically are. But Nolan wants and can do more than that.

His strength lies in the imagination; In the idea of ​​a coup movie that takes place on several dream plans at one time, or in the many time packs from Interstellar. So why spend time on a realistic historical depiction? Conversely, the theme of the evacuation from Dunkerque fits perfectly to Nolan, who has always studied human morality in his film. Over and over again, on the beach, on the water, and in the air, young men must decide whether to put their own lives at risk to save others. Time after time they are over whether they will make it difficult, but right - like the grades on the boats in The Dark Knight or in the spaceships in Interstellar.

And what Nolan has always raised over his contemporaries is his insistence on linking form and content. Like his characters so often, make it difficult, as are his employees. So of course, the story should not be confined to common ideas about how a historical movie should be delivered, if the experience could be more effective in another way. Of course, the cutting must be many times more complicated than it could have been. And of course, the movie must be made at 70mm, rather than the more simple digital format, even though it might have been easier to save scenes on a computer in post-production. Christopher Nolan insists on doing the little things properly.

haha oops

um that wasn't what I meant

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Rewatching selected eps from the original series and Hawk is introduced as "the best tracker around" by Sheriff Truman...

Both Phillip Gerard and Bobby Briggs manage to lose Hawk pretty early on:
Bobby by jumping out of Jacques Renault's apartment window and running down an alley and
Phillip by walking away from Hawk down a corridor in the morgue of the hospital.

I mean the scene shows Hawk just watching him walk away, I had no idea he was tracking him until Truman asked Hawk if he had and Hawk said "he lost me in the basement".

lol

TBF, the other trackers are terrible.

Hawk actually didn't give a shit

He only makes an effort when he thinks the opportunity to knife-throw a dude in the back might present itself.