Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

the Tammi objectificaton in episode 4 is some cringey ass shit, probably one of my least fav moments

didn't realise until tonight that the soundtrack is on spotify: http://twin.pk/tp2017spotify

Dinner at the end of ep 11 seemed practically a Fellini homage

uh, in terms of lighting and camera work and stuff I mean

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that's not the official soundtrack, it's just a playlist that someone made of the songs that have been used that are already on spotify

fuckin spotify

I downloaded Windswept today which I guess will kind of feel like a tp the return ost. Have not listened yet.

That Michael Horse thing is very pleasing.

This has a parallel in Coop-as-Dougie, I think:

https://mubi.com/lists/david-lynchs-favourite-films

"And finally, I would show Rear Window, for the brilliant way in which Alfred Hitchcock manages to create – or rather, re-create – a whole world with in confined parameters. James Steward never leaves his wheelchair during the film, and yet, through his point of view, we follow a very complex murder scheme."

lol @ no Vertigo

This season is very, very referential; much more than any of his other work I think. Feel like older directors often go this way, placing more conscious value on their influences than they had done in their earlier films. A lot of times it backfires, but not here obviously

It probably also comes from the nature of the thing being disparate parts assembled together and it being a very large tapestry.

btw people aren't just mad at Fenn about the pay stuff... she posted a bunch of questionable anti-feminist stuff during the women's march etc

lol no

Those are dumb tweets but that is definitely not the reason that the people I'm talking about are mad at her

twin peaks participation much more important than politics for sure

it's going to be really weird when they reveal Trump owns the penthouse with the glass box, though

i mean i was talking to a bunch of people at twin peaks fest this week and they were all talking shit about Fenn's posts but ok.

this is the first I've heard of any of this and I don't really care to learn more tbh

iirc it was kinda standard stuff about civility & how they shouldn't have been using language like "pussy", dumb but like there's a guy in this who has actually beaten up his girlfriend as discussed above which seems maybe higher on the outrage scale. I wasn't privy to chaki's conversation, as I said I was talking about the commenters on the Facebook shitposting groups, logposting & fire walk w memes, the latter of which is like 30% "we jacked a popular meme to make a shitty rape joke". And none of them (the people I'm talking about) mentioned those tweets

I wonder what the likelihood was of that cherry pie having come directly from the RR Diner somehow.

Also (and I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this has been covered elsewhere) - is Twin Peaks way more developed than it was 25 years ago? I can't quite remember but it certainly felt like there wasn't much around the diner in the old days, now it looks like any old medium-sized town out there.

(Also we saw people sit on the other side of the diner for like the first time ever).

It's testament to how much control this show has over its characters that at the end of the old S2 you think "fuck these guys for killing Audrey while giving Bobby a happy ending", whereas this time round you feel genuinely gutted for Bobby that it hasn't worked out with him and Shelley.

I hope they give Norma something to actually do soon (although judging from the framed article the diner has been winning awards in the intervening years).

The pie came from the bakery Cooper went into, right? Szymon's bakery, continuing Lynch's infatuation with all things polish.

(I most certainly did NOT think that about bobby's happy s2 ending)

the 'o' in szymon's is basically this

https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/twinpeaks/images/a/a8/BigEdsGasFarm.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170116042141

they mentioned a farm in part 8 too

Snoqualmie & North Bend are very built up compared to what they were in the late 80s--they're only 30 min from Seattle and even closer to the massive Microsoft wealth that stretches from the east side of Lake Washington to the Cascades. They're tourist and recreation towns now; I don't think there's any logging left in the area to speak of. Since so much was shot on location (unlike the original series) current Twin Peaks cant help but reflect this, I think.

I grew up in a small western Washington logging town during the 80s & early 90s and have all sorts of random thoughts on how both series and the movie reflect the area, maybe I'll try to type some up in the next 7 weeks.

That'd be great, thanks.

In the meantime, Matt DC - I mentioned a podcast episode upthread covering the "real Twin Peaks" and how the area has changed. It's here: https://www.imaginaryworldspodcast.org/the-real-twin-peaks.html

Twin Peaks's DOP Peter Deming has apparently decided it's go time pic.twitter.com/nVGD5IdA0s

— Christian McCrea (@christianmccrea) July 22, 2017

loooool

12 is remoured to be another big'un

Just watched Missing Pieces and enjoyed it very much. If there's anything I miss about the earlier stuff it's the more soft idyllic quality, a lot of scenes had a beautiful glow about them and the style seemed more unified overall.
The woodsmen look awful by comparison though. Would like to see the jumping man again.

I've seen the film more times and more recently than the original series so I thought it was always Moira Kelly as Donna. It's a shame she and Lara couldn't have come back somehow.

I want more of this so badly it's kind of painful to imagine there could be a fourth series that doesn't happen. Maybe they'd do a film again.

"they mentioned a farm in part 8 too"

I think that was where cooper went and met tim roth.

If there's anything I miss about the earlier stuff it's the more soft idyllic quality, a lot of scenes had a beautiful glow about them and the style seemed more unified overall.

our 'cast guest this week chalked up the difference in emotional register btwn early-90s to early-00s Lynch vs contemporary Lynch as being perhaps attributable to the absence of Mary Sweeney as collaborator

xxp - When the little boy was run over by Richard in one of the earlier episodes, I thought for a few moments that the mother was played by Moira Kelly.

Just watched the trailer for Mary Sweeny's Baraboo and it does look fairly idyllic.

Love the comments on the youtube trailer for Baraboo; they're all about an actor being their French teacher, including "PETER MORSE WAS MY FRENCH TEACHER AND HE LIKED ME THE BEST BITCHES!!"

Simon where are you seeing this chat about 12 being a big 'un?

I'm guessing people are just speculating based off the episode description?

this episode title has legitimately got me excited. everything's going to feel so flat once this series is over.

sure there's other stuff to be getting on with, the point is i don't think i'll want to. this show has reset my standard for what television should be.

belushi so good. "I can't wait to kill this guy"

As much as I've complained on this thread, this show has seriously been a lifeline for me, reminding me of the power of art to add great value to my life. I absolutely mean that 100%.

And this thread has added to that.

Ep 11 is SO GOOD

It reminded me of the Sopranos episode where Paulie and Christopha get lost in the woods. I guess because of the easy camaraderie of morons.

I hope this is not the last we see of Knepper and Belushi!

I've been starving for more so I started the first season again (saw at it decade ago) and this time I'll watch the second season. I saw the last episode of the second season before but avoided the rest because I heard it was bad and I loved the music so much I was afraid it would wear out its charm after so many episodes. I'm still afraid I'll ruin the soundtrack this way.

Autumn Almanac- Yeah, I'm getting impatient with everything else and wanting to be more discriminating with what I watch.

First 7 or 8 eps of S2 are just as good as the first season imo. Everything up through Leland's death.

I have no patience for the shit after that, have only watched it once or twice. So say first 16 eps and the finale, with two of those being doubles, come out to about... 15 hrs? Not too far off The Return, kind of a nice symmetry there.

I do miss Invitation To Love in the second season though. I guess they thought it was too on the nose? Which seems crazy now.

I'd go as far as to say the first 8 episodes of season 2 are better than season 1, although it's already starting to become more uneven at that point

Simon where are you seeing this chat about 12 being a big 'un?

I've only seen this tweet from an account that seems to have good info a lot of the time:

Spread the word because we hear tomorrow night's Part 12 'Let's Rock' is DO NOT MISS television. #TwinPeaks

— Twin Peaks (@TwinPeaksArchve) July 29, 2017

(Although if you look at their previous tweets they're apparently basing it off a tweet by David Dastmalchian, and how would he know?)

based my speculation on the same tweet tbh

learned some production dirt today but I'll have to save it for when the season ends