Trump, August 2017: A great day at the White House!

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Others reportedly being considered for DHS include Rudy Giuliani, Kris Kobach, and Tom Cotton.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

The Stephen Miller press conference is a dumpster fire. He and Jim Acosta are insulting each other.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

^^I just decided I'd heard enough, turned it off

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

why would stephen miller hold a press conf

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

Others reportedly being considered for DHS include Rudy Giuliani, Kris Kobach, and Tom Cotton

Giuliani will never make it through the Senate. Cotton would though

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

That confrontation between Miller and Jim Acosta will be all over the place for the next few hours. I imagine Acosta would like to rephrase his Great Britain-Australia statement,

clemenza, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

plus isn't Kobach busy hunting down those pesky fake votes

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

Heh, just turned on the press briefing and Sanders is reading another fucking fan letter.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

OMG, who decided to put Miller on camera?! I'm going to have to seek out this nightmare after work.

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

was it like when they let toby do briefings in the west wing!!!!!!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

I find it kind of, well, sad that Sanders has these pre-written statements ready to go for the tough questions. Why even stand there?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

why even have these briefings at all, is the real question

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

I promote this turn of events, tbh. The administration is sure to start hemorrhaging support if cave-dwelling slime trolls like Miller and Bannon start creeping out of the shadows and presenting themselves in all their glory the American public.

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

at least when the movie about the tumultuous Trump administration comes out, Stephen Miller knows he will be played by James Woods

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link

Impressive range from Jonathan Banks. From Stephen Miller in the 80s to James Clapper or aging Rick Wilson today. pic.twitter.com/w4RGIMUYun

— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) August 2, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

ed butowski 'joking' over text about seth rich's murder for president trump is a new highpoint in "american" "conservative" history :)

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

It was just a goof.

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

We're talking about a country where most people's primary educations are from McDonalds ads.

― carpet_kaiser, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:31 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Holy shit is this true

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

many xposts

don't throw stones in glass houses, i know, but i have trouble trusting that Windbag Index above because they misspelled Kaine's name in a way that clearly wasn't the result of a mere typo

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

stephen miller on jim acosta's "cosmopolitan bias" = duke sucks

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

this immigration thing has a 0% chance of passing, right?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

this has a good rat-a-tat-tat to it https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2476

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

"It's hard to pick what is the most alarming number in the troubling trail of new lows for President Donald Trump," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Profound embarrassment over his performance in office and deepening concern over his level-headedness have to raise the biggest red flags.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

We're talking about a country where most people's primary educations are from McDonalds ads.

― carpet_kaiser, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:31 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought the fear at least used to be that McDonalds and other similar firms were distorting education by almost direct advertising being placed in in terms of sponsorship etc. Logos on every possible item and information propmoted in line with corporate wishes.

Hopefully that's long gone. But I could see it returning under current leadership.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

Why are all systems of power huge disasters? One key part is probably that power literally changes people's brains https://t.co/6uMBmR61yU pic.twitter.com/GSeiPEmUbe

— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) August 2, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

this immigration thing has a 0% chance of passing, right?

it's not zero but a) it has to get through committee first, b) it has to be brought to the floor for a vote and c) it will need 60 votes (ie, entire GOP + some Dems). Given that this was announced in coordination with Trump (and not McConnell), would seem to indicate it's a steep climb. Have to think there would be some corporate pushback against this (both from tech firms and others) as well as resistance from various states with big latino populations (lookin at u, Heller) plus a fairly unified Dem opposition (I suppose they might peel off Heitkamp and Munchin).

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

Stephen Miller's parents:
http://www.ymcllc.com/management-team/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

er Manchin

xxp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

It's legitimately great that language requirements, which are baked in to the immigration systems of Australia, Canada, the UK and New Zealand, are so toxic in the US.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

I had no idea that was the case, that's insane

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

what's the historical/political rationale behind that, I assume it's some colonial holdover

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

well there goes that puppet stuff... Medvedev is on FB?

Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian prime minister, said the new sanctions were tantamount to a "full-scale trade war".

He said that the move showed the Trump administration was utterly powerless. "The hope that our relations with the new American administration would improve is finished," he wrote on Facebook.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/02/donald-trump-signs-russia-sanctions-bill-calls-significantly/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

no rational person thinks Trump is Putin's "puppet"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

well, youre setting a high bar for Keith Olbermann

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

what's the historical/political rationale behind that, I assume it's some colonial holdover

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:37 (forty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Only in as much as everything in the UK is a colonial hangover. Language requirements were first introduced around 2009.

The focus in all four is on skilled migration and the perception is that you can't work effectively if you can't speak English (or French in Quebec). Beyond that, it's absolutely about the politics of integration.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

trump won't see it on facebook, but he also tweeted it

The Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way

— Dmitry Medvedev (@MedvedevRussiaE) August 2, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

I know he's Russian, but I can't read that as anything other than Hans and/or Franz.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

Re the Medvedev tweet:

We Are Now in Cold War 2.0

Only six months into his presidency, Moscow has assessed that Trump is a naif, an incompetent weakling who cannot deliver what Russia needs. He is therefore expendable. As stereotypical Chekists, Putin and his retinue wanted chaos in America in 2016 and that surely Trump has delivered, with myriad assistance from Russia’s intelligence agencies...

Now that Trump is expendable to Moscow, he ought to worry that leaks unflattering to him and his entourage may go public. We know that Russian hackers pillaged Republicans as well as Democrats in 2016, while only the latter have been disseminated by Kremlin fronts. Not to mention Trump’s decades of shadowy financial dealings with Russian oligarchs, which the Kremlin surely knows all about. Putin is biding his time and, right now, he’s holding most of the important cards. He may ultimately decide Trump’s political fate, which now resides in Moscow’s hands.

Are you Eating It...or is It Eating You? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

Verrrry interesting. (Yes, lame source, but they appear to have the scoop.)

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/trump-loyalist-ezra-cohen-watnick-fired-from-nsc-sources-say#sthash.boutfp3c.uxfs

Saw a Tweet the other day that Kelly coming in would mean little so long as Cohen-Watnick, Gorka and Bannon were still around. And now, one's gone.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

Who wrote that the villain from cats and dogs xp

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

John R. Schindler is a never-Trump conservative who served a decade+ as a naval officer in the NSA, but got booted for texting a dick pic. He's no angel, but does seem to have contacts within the IC, and on Twitter is in a moderate camp between the loonies (Mench et al) and the rather late to the game major media.

Are you Eating It...or is It Eating You? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

Schindler may or may not still have contacts, but any of us monkeys could have written that essay.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

Also interesting re NSC removals.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/535725/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

I should add it's hilarious Michael Anton is the one reduced to no-comment stuff about the type of thing he loves getting trashed.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

A preview of my upcoming Observer bombshell:

"This was not the way it was supposed to turn out. Six months after a contentious election in which Trump's best defense against accusations of being a Russian puppet was 'no, you are,' with evidence of collision or worse piling up at a seemingly unsustainable pace, it's Putin, and not the American public, that has pulled the plug, dismissing the would-be enabler as an incompetent dud, and betting on a more contentious and traditional adversarial stance rather than continue hoping Trump could come through on years of winks, hints, and barely veiled messages that he would be a willing and able assistant to Putin's dreams of renewed global dominance.

And yet, it's Trump that should be most concerned. With Putin moving on, that leaves Trump behind. And what a behind he has! Ample, supple, like an enormous fruit loose in the giant khaki back-sack of his pants. Wobbling to and fro with every pendulum swing of the golf club, inspiring awes from those fortunate enough to be stationed behind his tee, the hypnotic slap of his butt-flesh against itself echoing like a human executive desk toy, the constant applause of two cheeks for the man setting them in motion ..."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

so, do we get pee tape now

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

Ample, supple, like an enormous fruit loose in the giant khaki back-sack of his pants.

well there's next month's thread title

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

Are they blackmailing him or not?

Treeship, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link


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