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ooh good to know!

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

And here's the kind of bullshit that will ruin streaming the way everything else gets ruined:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-pull-movies-netflix-launch-streaming-service-1027793

People go to streaming as a cable alternative, streaming services splinter, major companies start to set up their own streaming services, suddenly there are a dozen overlapping streaming services and nothing comprehensive, resulting in essentially a cable package where every single channel must be paid for individually. Netflix exclusives, Amazon exclusives, Disney exclusives, HBO exclusives, Criterion exclusives, NBC exclusives ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 23:20 (six years ago) link

Yeah this sucks. Don't forget the stupid CBS service to milk Star Trek fans...

DJI, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

eh, yes and no

I think we're getting close to a la carte providers for television, although the content exclusive to Hulu and Amazon are in that boat. Via Sling, Playstation Vue, and that Direct TV direct thing we have what's basically streaming cable, including the ability to add/remove content either via packages or by the channel. The packages are still too large, in that they tend to have a basic, sports, movie package like cable providers but they don't have the stupid service discount negotiation garbage that cable has.

I have PS Vue and have added/remove HBO, Showtime, and Starz for a couple months at a time fairly seamlessly. And even though there's a single app (on my PS or on Apple TV) for live tv and a "dvr" function that's really just on-demand streaming, I have the apps for all of the individual channels (USA/TNT/NBC/ABC/etc) on Apple TV and can go directly to them and stream individual episodes because the sign-in info is linked to Vue and is single sign-on.

So, how I view most tv is by going to that channel's app, then selecting a show or movie or whatever. The unifying thing is they're all on the home screen and equally available.

Now, Netflix is also on that screen, and Hulu, and supposedly Amazon Video will be. The only difference is the billing is from different sources.

So long-term, either a device maker is going to give you single-billing and you manage subscriptions that way, and other providers of exclusive content will give you a plug-in app/channel thing.

The only difference between that and cable with add-on channels is I'm paying multiple people at this point because Hulu, Netflix (and some of the others, like that one that has Criterion, etc) see themselves as stand-alone and don't license via package providers.

mh, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

oh yeah, and CBS is trying to be stand-alone, too. I think eventually it's going to be a value break between losing subscribers they'd get via a bundling service and the slim profit margin of running their own

mh, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

Message from the King was very good. If anyone is looking for a dark crime/revenge film that is not like every other dark crime/revenge film. very compelling!

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 04:38 (six years ago) link

Unlike Donald Trump, Lady Bloodfight TOTALLY lives up to its title. 150% truth in advertising. 5 stars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Y-f2OdMis

scott seward, Thursday, 10 August 2017 03:53 (six years ago) link

So, how I view most tv is by going to that channel's app, then selecting a show or movie or whatever. The unifying thing is they're all on the home screen and equally available.

this is how roku works. it even has a search function where it'll show you which channels have the thing you are looking for! Technology is great! Even the forever unavailable Costa-Gavras State of Siege is available now!

sansa riff (sarahell), Thursday, 10 August 2017 04:19 (six years ago) link

Superman Punches are way too prevalent these days
also all-lady Bloodsport remake? ok i'm kinda curious

Nhex, Thursday, 10 August 2017 05:23 (six years ago) link

Lady Bloodfight is surprisingly touching. plus, lots of bloodfighting. i'm already anticipating the sequel.

scott seward, Thursday, 10 August 2017 05:24 (six years ago) link

That looks awesome.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 August 2017 11:46 (six years ago) link

lol "The Kumite"

"I'm going to Hong Kong to compete in the infamous life-or-death tournament, The Sparring!"

Brad C., Thursday, 10 August 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

the infamous life or death tournament that Frank W Dux invented

Neanderthal, Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

sorry didn't mean to derail (and actually I wanna watch the shit out of this), I just find the whole Dux story compelling in terms of what a mega-fraudster he was

Neanderthal, Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:27 (six years ago) link

yeah it's pretty hilarious!

Nhex, Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link

the Dux nonsense has annoyed me for many years, but clearly I need to get over it and watch Lady Bloodfight

Brad C., Thursday, 10 August 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link

Atypical is my new fave show and i'm only 3/4 through the first episode. Jennifer Jason Leigh and the hilarity that is autism is a match made in heaven.

scott seward, Friday, 11 August 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

I have only watched the first episode of Atypical, and I found it to be a very emotional experience, because I know a couple people who have and had some form of autism. I hesitate to label it as such, but Sam's personality and quirks are definitely consistent with what I've experienced when socializing with them.

I browsed through some reviews and apparently, while autism comes in many varieties, a couple people with autism have written that Sam's characteristics appear to be typical for those with this neurodevelopmental disorder.

Before I watched the show, I read that they treated the show with comedic relief, and while I noticed these parts in the first episode, it was hard for me to actually laugh, rather I half-smiled and got teary-eyed.

the sound of space, Sunday, 13 August 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

I have totally given up on new autism spectrum themed tv drama/comedy in this golden age of ASC enlightenment. A lot of it has been absolute cack, and what I have read on Atypical so far doesn't inspire much confidence. But I'm a weirdo and a neorealism fan,and would like to see more depictions of less fashionably cute ASC people. Whose behaviour might not be entertaining or conducive to trite, exploitative crap tv.

calzino, Sunday, 13 August 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

the star is a perfect mix of sheldon cooper from big bang theory and max from parenthood. i always thought that max seemed pretty real for a one hour network drama. they were good on that show at getting at the frustration/anger/reveling in small triumphs from both the kid and parent points of view.

scott seward, Sunday, 13 August 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

Any subject introduced in modern popular culture mediums (TV, film, music), mostly mainstream, will filter out any extreme examples of the individual experience, except maybe stupidity, because this causes laughter and the notion of the Audience as a voyeur or eavesdropper is still very much a natural state for many of us -- it's no wonder a site called Gawker was so popular.

Specifically, neorealism runs contrary to Hollywood-style filmmaking, where The Bigger Picture is pushed to the viewer. Subtle or nuanced characteristics are typically suggested, instead of shown. It's about showing the Archetype. In this case, like Scott Seward said, Sheldon Cooper in appearance and toned-down personality. Except Atypical's Sam loves biology instead.

You would think with the rise of streaming media or video-on-demand, there would be a push for neorealism, but, a chicken-and-egg scenario, the Audience keeps demanding The Bigger Picture experience, apparently. I suppose a lack of attention span pushes the masses to favour explosions, car chases, and easily digestible scenes, where much is left to the viewer's imagination, except the typical viewer is no longer using her imagination. There is also an emotional angle the show is going for, of course, which could be why some families who have children or relatives on the spectrum don't mind watching it. This is my case. It opens up a dialogue between us.

Calzino, I do agree with you to a certain extent, but the problem you state goes far beyond a couple shows. Unfortunately, it's industry-wide at least in the US.

Even the less trite shows have been criticized for pushing archetypal characters, Love for showing hipsters struggling with romantic relationships and living in Silverlake, and the LDS Church's reaction to Big Love, to name two examples.

I'm interested to read what the rest of you think.

the sound of space, Sunday, 13 August 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

one more thing about Max. maybe i'm the only one here who actually watched every season of Parenthood. on that show they actually allowed the viewer to become frustrated with the character. which i thought was kinda risky at the time. he was very definitely not always lovable. and in that sense he felt more real to me. they softened him somewhat later on - but also showed his growth and steps forward and backward - by having him bond with an aspergers-suffering adult played by ray romano.

scott seward, Sunday, 13 August 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

I think, when it comes to portraying disability or neuro-atypical people, or even people of less visible minorities, older shows did have such characters but there was this writerly urge to put some of the details in but "make him a normal guy," or the Archetype. That impulse is still there, so you end up with characters that have specific mannerisms or traits that get surfaced in a light form without specifically making the plot about them, or some version of the "very special episode of" formula where everyone has to come together to address what might be a very personal thing.

I haven't watched many of the shows with characters who have symptoms on the autism spectrum, but I've mention a few times that the show You're the Worst did a reasonable job with addressing depression. One of the main characters slowly disappears. At first, it seems like the show's just focusing more on the other characters and their plot arcs, but eventually you realize she's been doing as little possible in the background. And that's where the deviation from formula seemed almost over the top: who, in real life, would spend most of their time hiding under a blanket and not making the effort to communicate? It's almost too real, and seems contrived.

I think that at that point it's hard to determine whether the viewers or creators are at fault for the formulaic conceptions of life we see and how we respond to them. It reminds me of the bait for interpretation that a handful of English teachers dangled at us during my school years: is Romeo and Juliet really a tragedy, or is it meant to be a comedy? Kids of that age falling in romantic love, they extrapolate, was not the norm for Shakespeare's time, even if people did marry younger. Or was the concept of romantic love in itself a novelty for the audience? It falls to the production and the audience to negotiate which interpretative framework they want to believe.

mh, Monday, 14 August 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

I also keep thinking about Cheers and how the introduction of psychologists to the cast is a red herring because every character is a light-hearted version of some sort of situation. You have the dry alcoholic sex addict, the autism spectrum guy who lives with his mom, the depressed alcoholic who can't deal with his marriage, and so on

mh, Monday, 14 August 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

I'm kind of disappointed in you all for not giving Happy Valley its own thread

As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Sunday, 20 August 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

do it!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 August 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

xpost 1st season is excellent alright

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Sunday, 20 August 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

yeah 'happy valley' is great

gbx, Monday, 21 August 2017 04:05 (six years ago) link

that that creepy psycho rapist is the same guy who is the hot priest in Grantchester is v upsetting for me

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 August 2017 04:51 (six years ago) link

mh otm regarding you're the worst handling of depression.

Episode in season 2 where she follows the couple and imagines that kind of life is preferable is crushing and truthful.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 21 August 2017 06:13 (six years ago) link

Is POWER worth watching? A bunch of people on my FB feed are raving about it but I suspect they have shit taste.

After a promising start, Ozark ended disappointingly imo

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link

Is anyone else watching Halt and Catch Fire S4? Now they're inventing everything that happened in the 1990s! (Google vs Yahoo! mostly by the look of it)

At this point you either care about the characters or you don't. Joe and Cameron talking on the phone for an entire episode was nice. Wish they would do more with Donna.

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Saturday, 26 August 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link

i want to see season 4! i don't think its on my netflix yet though.

scott seward, Sunday, 27 August 2017 03:23 (six years ago) link

watched kathy bates pothead show. it's weird.

scott seward, Sunday, 27 August 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

I watched the Nat King Cole: Afraid of the Dark doc today. Love him more now than ever.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 27 August 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link

re disjointed - the laugh track totally kills it for me, just makes it feel so awkward

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 27 August 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link

yeah the laugh track makes it even weirder. its a hodgepodge of stuff.

scott seward, Sunday, 27 August 2017 04:28 (six years ago) link

so this show Gypsy with Naomi Watts is fucking godawful, I watched episodes 6-10 (my wife started it the day before, tired and jetlagged). apparently it started well but by the time I came in it was essentially soft porn and that's the only reason I kept watching it if I'm going to be honest. Not surprised they decided not to do another season though now it nags at me very slightly as I almost want to know what was going to happen next.

akm, Sunday, 27 August 2017 04:29 (six years ago) link

I just read the synopsis and it sounds a lot like the recent Hulu-exclusive show where Hugh Laurie was a psychiatrist? These “therapist pushing boundaries” pitches must have landed everywhere

mh, Sunday, 27 August 2017 05:00 (six years ago) link

H+CF S4 is on Amazon Prime UK now, not sure how quickly it spreads.

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Sunday, 27 August 2017 10:26 (six years ago) link

it may be like that Hulu show, yes; also apparently it shares quite a bit with an old showtime series called Huff, down to Blythe Danner playing the mother. Anyway, it is hot garbage but if you want to see Naomi Watts kissing a brunette girl because Mulholland Drive wasn't enough for you, there is plenty of that here, as well as Billy Crudup being smirky and smarmy and also some of the worst dialogue I've ever seen on a tv series with quality actors.

akm, Sunday, 27 August 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link

sold lol

Nhex, Sunday, 27 August 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link

some of the worst dialogue I've ever seen on a tv series with quality actors.

cf big little lies which i couldn't get through the first episode of, fuck david kelley

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 27 August 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

i'm always wishing for more straight up genre t.v. on netflix. seems like a lot of stuff always have to be seen through the lens of the sundance channel. stuff like bloodline and ozark. not-quite-prestige-t.v.

would totally watch a reboot of Silk Stalkings with actors I've never heard of. that's probably why i like shows like burn notice. so 90s and they just want to have fun. actually, longmire is a good example too, i guess. and those two shows starring lisa bonet's husband. the one on the indian reservation and the hudson bay fur trapping blood and hatchet one. perfect t.v.! no big deal. i guess that's why i have hulu too.

scott seward, Sunday, 27 August 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

gypsy is hundreds of times worse than big little lies, which I liked.

akm, Sunday, 27 August 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

Has anyone watched Suburra the film? I haven't watched it yet but Instantwacher says its available to stream. Netflix is making a series of it apparently. The book just came out in the US which I'm looking forward to. Modern mafia/political corruption thriller set in/near Rome.

ian, Sunday, 27 August 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link

I didn't last through the cold open of disjointed

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 27 August 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

as soon as i heard the laugh track i had to turn it off

just1n3, Monday, 28 August 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link

Icarus seems like vegemitegirrrl-bait? i know nothing about cycling, never watch it or pay attention to it, but i love a good scandal/conspiracy. i kept having to pause it to get my husband to explain stuff but i thought it was pretty good.

just1n3, Monday, 28 August 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link


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