Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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If you introduce an enchanted gardening glove in Act Fourteen, it has to punch someone in Act Eighteen: that's screenwriting 101.

one way street, Monday, 14 August 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

the final scene will be a close-up of the talking gardening glove: "i'll see you in 25 years"

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 August 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

The Evolution of the Arm.

ArchCarrier, Monday, 14 August 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

Nadine still has super-strength too, right? Or at least did as of 25 years ago?

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 14 August 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

superpunch Mr. C in the gut. a geyser of garmonbozia propels the bob egg toward nadine, who knocks it out of orbit with a gold shovel

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 August 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

I'd be satisfied with that ending.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 14 August 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

Wally Brando rides into the shot.... "The struggle of the human heart in the atomic age: the greatest game ever played." STARRING KYLE MCLACHLAN

one way street, Monday, 14 August 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

I can't believe STARRING KYLE MCLACHLAN hasn't been memed in some way... so much potential

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 August 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

https://deanhurley.bandcamp.com/album/anthology-resource-vol-1

Although Twin Peaks: The Return has hosted an array of Roadhouse performers and spotlighted music throughout its new season, a large part of the show’s sonic identity has been defined by the space between sound effects and music. Sound and music Supervisor Dean Hurley’s first installment of the library-style Anthology Resource series showcases his original sound design and music compositions featured in the show’s very distinctive-sounding third season. From ethereal tones to sputtering electricity to densely brooding musical cues, this release operates as an unofficial ambient score to Twin Peaks, offering a more abstract counterpoint to the show’s official soundtrack and score. (You might also remember Hurley as the drummer from the fictitious band Trouble, alongside Alex Zhang Hungtai of Dirty Beaches, and David Lynch’s son Riley, who performed at the Roadhouse in 'Part 5' of The Return.)

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:01 AM (six days ago)

This is on Spotify as well.

WilliamC, Monday, 14 August 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

The white hand inside Sarah's face has one dark finger: the ring finger of the left hand. It's the same finger Mr C. tells Ray to put the green ring on in episode 13.

ArchCarrier, Monday, 14 August 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

i leave the gaff and head round the corner to the hardware store where the clerk won't sell me the bloody glove

spot on m8

tpp, Monday, 14 August 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

Sarah being some kind of Black Lodge spirit host making me sort of re-think the roles of the Palmer family

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 August 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

It struck me this episode that everyone who's been to the Lodge this time round seems kind of clueless and naive - Andy, the glove guy, Matthew Lillard, even Dougie. That seems meaningfully different from 25 years ago when only the show's metaphysical elite seemed able to enter.

strike curious poses, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

what was once esoteric knowledge is now the destination of people seeking answers

mh, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

I just can't get over how clever Lynch is. Was two Coopers part of the tapestry in Lynch's mind when he wrote that scene with Jeffries in FWWM or is this just an extremely advanced reconfiguring of existiing elements with ideas that didn't exist before, kind of like M Dr. In extremis?

Either way it's pretty mind blowing what he's doing here and I feel privelaged to see it unfolding. I still feel bad for people who aren't watching this weekly.

Cake hawn. (jed_), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

That was one of the most head slapping "of course" moments, until I realized that I could not possibly have put it together until then

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

Doppelganger stuff was introduced in the S2 finale, expanded on (a little) with the Jeffries/Cooper scene in FWWM and then *really* focused on for this. it was a process.

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

It's just awe inspiring.

Cake hawn. (jed_), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

it's masterful - if he can make a moment from a 25 year old movie that seemed odd and unsettling suddenly become portentious and disturbing, that's narrative power. extremely cool

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

dunno how much truth there is to it, but there were rumours back in the day that Lynch was planning further Twin Peaks films before FWWM tanked. He may have had some of the ideas we're seeing in this percolating for some time

Number None, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link

OMG, what if Lynch pulled a Dr. Parnassus with Phillip Jeffries and recast another rock & roll star on the role, perhaps someone with the initials EV...

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

i hope not

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

I am so glad to be alive to have been able to see this episode. I've no words. Genius and nuts.

Will read up the hundreds of posts now. Mind blown.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 14 August 2017 23:22 (six years ago) link

Some thoughts:

- Are we all buying Diane's confession of Jane-E being her step-sister? The Diane who has some secret communication channel with BadCoop (?) going on and constantly obstructs things? I'm not nearly convinced.
- COFFEE TIME!
- "Who ordered just cheese?" was Hawk becoming one with Harvey Keitel in Reservoir Dogs, loved that
- At one point we are going to see the left glove turn up, right?
- Andy was such a leader after his visit to the lodge, I loved that. Though putting a blind, distressed woman in a jail cell just like that struck me as... ill advised? (I know Andy said it was to protect her, but jeez, find her a better hiding place will you?)
- The girls at the end, in the bar. Billy and her mom, Tina, had a thing. The girl twice, or maybe even three times, said: 'I can't remember if my uncle was there' when talking about Billy being in their home all bleeding. Who's the uncle referred to, do we know?
- "We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream. But who is the dreamer?" This has Mulholland Drive written all over it. Only one director who can get away with all the dream metaphors and it's Lynch.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

$20 says this series ends with Jeffrey Beaumont waking up next to Sandy and telling her about the weird dream he just had.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

tilda swinton is the best choice for Jeffries, unless Bowie is in this

Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

$20 says this series ends with Jeffrey Beaumont waking up next to Sandy and telling her about the weird dream he just had.

― Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Monday, August 14, 2017 8:10 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dick Tremayne's dream imo

Dancing on the Pylons, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link

Dick Tremayne's dream imo

I only finally registered here like a few weeks ago and my posts have already hit rock bottom

Dancing on the Pylons, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link

FWWM had Annie, bloodied from the Lodge, appearing anachronistically in Laura's bed to tell her "The good Cooper is in the Lodge and he can't leave. Write it in your diary," so I don't think it's a stretch to read the Jeffries scene as another way to acknowledge the situation of Cooper's doppelganger outside the usual purview of a prequel.

one way street, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link

Totally. There are time loops at work.

Treeship, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link

Briggs planting the note for Bobby and co. as well.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

Re uncles--in ep 11 the angry honking lady says that they're late for dinner, her uncle is joining them, she hasn't seen him in a long while...

No idea where they're going with these mysterious uncles but it's intriguing.

sciatica, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link

What word does Tammy say after she says "The dying woman was not natural... conjured--what's the word..."

"Atopa"? "A topa"? What does that mean? I'm probably mishearing some obvious and common word

Dan I., Tuesday, 15 August 2017 02:50 (six years ago) link

Ah, she said "A tulpa"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa

Dan I., Tuesday, 15 August 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link

Well hey and check out this picture from that Wikipedia page:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Music_of_Gounod_-_Annie_Besant_Thought_Form_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_16269.jpg

Dan I., Tuesday, 15 August 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link

how can i get a tulpa

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 02:56 (six years ago) link

in the reply all podcast episode about tulpas, they talk to people who are trying to create them:
http://gimletmedia.com/episode/74-making-friends/

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:27 (six years ago) link

Jesus, Freddie's story was 8 minutes long!?

Dan I., Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link

yeah, i might be alone here but i didn't like him and i thought that scene dragged far more than any dougie sequence (which i like, in general)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:36 (six years ago) link

I figured there were so many things I’d loved that if they wanted so spend so much time on this novelty character, they could have him

mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:38 (six years ago) link

yeah, there's only been about half an hour out of about 14 hours that i haven't really enjoyed, so we're doing preeetttty good

i think this has been my favorite tv show of all time since about ten minutes into the first episode

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:46 (six years ago) link

kind of an interesting switch-up of bowie's voice in the original FWWM vs the footage they used in last night's episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXmiCTLuTI

the southern accent is less dramatic in last night's episode, and a "this" is switched out for "that". it's probably not a big secret or important or anything, they probably just dubbed in an outtake so that the accent would be less heavy. still kinda interesting though!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link

maybe Gordon and Albert aren’t remembering it quite right

mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:05 (six years ago) link

lol

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:10 (six years ago) link

That wasn't Bowie's voice btw, they got an actor to impersonate him. He was listed as "Voice" in the credits.

woman in the dunes, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link

oh, really? in FWWM? i had no idea

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:16 (six years ago) link

No for the re-dub in this episode.

woman in the dunes, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:17 (six years ago) link

oh.

...that's odd.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:19 (six years ago) link

I believe the footage of Bowie is not from FWWM but from The Missing Pieces, which has "that" instead of "this" (but the voice is overdubbed nonetheless).

Dancing on the Pylons, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:27 (six years ago) link


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