Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Apparently Reddit is full of spoilers for the last 4 episodes now

great post flappy

re: the people chosen to visit the lodge being naive/manipulated, it's closely related but i've seen them more as people who are able to listen to intuition. i suppose the difference between being criticized as naive and praised as intuitive can often come down to the outcome.

btw I figured it out

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/60/c9/7c/60c97c46abc41d481e3d3597d11ae50c--ben-and-jerrys-twin-peaks.jpg

Jerry is the dreamer guys

Apparently Reddit is full of spoilers for the last 4 episodes now

― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:36 (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how the hell? leak?

Something to do with some Russian torrent site. Apparently there are some badly translated synopses that arseholes are posting all over the place

oh jesus

I think you're fine if you just don't go on Reddit, which is always decent advice anyway. Tbh I doubt I'll encounter a worse spoiler than the one someone thought it was cool to post itt, which is looking likely to be from the finale and maybe even the very end scene

thanks for the warning, seems i missed that post

maybe i should drop out of this thread until the finale and hide from all twin peaks conversation, three weeks is no great hardship

i just searched for more Mulholland Drive connections on reddit and there are so many more references than i thought at first: the way Janey-E looks at the big bag of money when Dougie comes home with it, doubles/identity issues (not that this is unique to TP and MD), Silencio being featured in 8... also surprised how few people have mentioned that Naomi Watts is introduced in S3 wearing the exact same outfit as Betty Elms when she arrives at the airport in her dream in MD. there are so many overt and subtle references to Lynch's films throughout - another one is the beginning of 8 where Evil Coop and Ray are driving in the darkness, visually it's completely Lost Highway, and then there's even a death/transformation in the desert when Ray tries to kill Evil Coop.

oh yeah! i found something fucking insane on reddit:

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I was hoping the sheriff and deputies would run into Jerry during their trip in the woods.

Dougie is Diane's brother-in-LAW.

Not sure what you're getting at - is the significance supposed to be that they both work in law enforcement?

It occurred to me earlier that before Laura opens her face to reveal the light she says "I am dead, yet I live", whereas Sarah's been demonstrating the exact inverse, culminating in her opening her face to reveal darkness

It's the coincidence that Diane's sister's husband would be normally be referred to as a brother-in-law. That sister's husband is Dougie Jones, who we knew to be Cooper. Cooper worked in law enforcement alongside Diane, and throughout the original series Cooper and Harry refer to each other as 'brothers' due to this bond.

Don't tell me, it's not productive to analyse Lynch in this way. I fucking give up with this thread.

Ok so the answer to my question is... yes

just read this in a random lynch interview, sounds a bit like bobby & his dad in the woods:

Lynch was born in Missoula, Montana in 1946, and brought up in various places around the US, depending on where his father's job as a research scientist for the Department of Agriculture took him.

"I think his happiest time," Lynch says of his dad, "was when he had the Boise National Experimental Forest. A whole forest to experiment with! Things like erosion, bugs – so many different kinds of bugs – disease … And I loved going into that wood. There were little stands with little houses on the stands, and you'd open up the door and there'd be all kinds of weather equipment in there – little read-outs. It was really kind of great."

Wow, good find. That adds even more resonance to the scenes between the Briggses.

Both are so heartwarming and emotional at first - Bobby and Shelly's daughter may be in a bad way, but at least they're still together and (presumably!) married, after all these years.

Yeah that seemed like two parents who are definitely not together but are still willing to work together to help their daughter. I don't know if there's any indication (waiting for someone to mention a line where it was explicit) that they were ever married.

Not a line, but Amick was credited as Shelly Briggs.

I stand corrected

Things like that drive me a little crazy for reasons that aren't entirely rational. Like, it was a significant enough detail that (iirc) they didn't credit her as such until she and Bobby had a scene together, but then it's never directly addressed in the text so...what's the point? Maybe it'll be brought up before the end.

I think it was leaving it vague enough that they could show she had a daughter and leave it at that for a couple episodes while keeping some dramatic tension for the moment when it's revealed who her dad is

The way that scene played, it seemed pretty clear to me that Bobby and Shelly have been divorced for a long time. I like the ways the show makes us try to figure out what's happened to the original cast characters during the last 25 years without connecting every dot. Ed and Nadine are both wearing wedding bands, so I assume they're still married to each other, though maybe not living together. Ed and Norma are clearly no longer an item, though perhaps that piece of paper Ed burned during the closing credits was a note Norma slipped into his take-out order of chicken soup.

This is probably completely immaterial wrt anything major that's happened or will happen, but...do we know anything at all about Shelly's family? Like, that was one weird bit in the original series, when Cooper was telling the trio of girls who were being stalked by Windom Earle to stay with their parents or whatever and I realized that I don't think Shelly's parents were ever even mentioned prior to that.

I know in retrospect those scenes indicate divorce/amicable separation, but I totally fell for it in both cases. But that's beside the point - the way they rush up to greet their lovers was so jarring and sudden, the foundation of reality is shaky in the RR.

Carl called her Shelly Briggs btw

We've only known Shelly by her married names. First married at 17 after dropping out of the 11th grade... I think we're supposed to infer her previous family life from there.

Shelly has no backstory as such because she was born in a shower of gold fully formed as a waitress at the RR

definitely some patriarchal thing, she's never had parents, only husbands

Ehh, Norma's been her "mom" for decades now.

true!

Newest theory: in the magical chromatic scheme of twin peaks, the only match for RED is GREEN. This is how Shelly's new beau will meet his end:

"Have you ever studied your hand?"

"Too fackin' right I 'ave, ya dozy berk, that's aaar come I'm gonna smash yer fackin' boat race in wiv it!"

lol

Window washer was definitely a woodsman. Worried for Gordon

Sounded like there were voices in the screeching sounds (though I'll admit this show makes you hear and see stuff in anything)

I totally assumed window-washer was the Jumping Man

I immediately knew I recognized that British kid from somewhere and I finally remembered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpM

Whatever else, it's clear that the squeegee-wielder didn't know the first thing about the mechanics of window washing.

Would make sense given the sounds & where the scene goes but I think he's yet to come xxp

He and Louie "Birdsong" Budway are the only two original cast members yet to appear I think, I joked on twitter that they would appear together along with all the other non-white characters, in a scene set in a phone box

I also saw somewhere that there are only 19 actors yet to come on the cast list - any big ones? Apart from vedder obv

Meg Foster and Charlene Yi are the only non-Vedder names I recognize on the cast list that we haven't seen yet. There are so many I'd forgotten had already made their 90-second cameo!

Meg Foster appeared already!

Okay, just looked that up and I am completely unsurprised that I failed to recognize her.

It was also in the most cameo-heavy stretch of the return, my favourite being richard chamberlain as one of at least 4 bills in this thing

btw this and one of the replies to it are the best thing I've seen on tp twitter today ito making a connection that might actually hold water, pardon the pun

So this is the water, and this is the well? pic.twitter.com/an1YLvtAYW

— Counter.Esperanto (@c_esperanto) August 15, 2017

It's in the replies there, too, but the round window Andy got a view through instantly reminded me of this:

https://i1.wp.com/ozgeburcaka.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/t45.png?resize=600%2C400

Kinda miss the box tbh

I miss Sam & Tracy

I did not fully appreciate what a magnificent old man face Harry Goaz had developed until the shots of him in the White Lodge.