Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Man in flaphat walking dog who comes across Stephen & Gersten was Mark Frost?

I cannot wait to talk about this next ep with our (relative) celebrity guest this week

Man in flaphat walking dog who comes across Stephen & Gersten was Mark Frost?

Reprising his role as Cyril Pons!

It reminded my of the screaming girl in S1 of #TwinPeaks She's a close friend of Becky's & feels/senses that she's dead. https://t.co/uwazMzqd5j

— Eli Redman (@eliredman) August 21, 2017

This delivered in so many ways. Margaret's character dying was profoundly moving. Norm/Ed unrequited love transformation scene, the deflation felt when it turned out not to be Bowie but a badly dubbed impersonator. Lynch knows how to play with emotions and pay off in an exciting way

I can't wait to watch the missing pieces extended version of the scene where James approaches the creepy door in the furnace room that ends with him saying "welp, everything looks normal here. Off to the roadhouse!"

(Do you think this is the same night? Did James get beaten up & thrown in jail on his birthday?)

xp I appreciated that the voice of Jeffries didn't try to improve the accent too much

yeah, it works in a way. Feel like the roadhouse scenes serve as a return to reality for the viewer - this show is intoxicating and we all need a window back

the live version of the Otis Redding track reminded me of how they used the live recording of "what a wonderful world" back in Lonely Souls, possibly another sign that Becky's a goner

Good call :-(

Did anyone bother to pay attention to the numbers the real Jeffries gave Mr C? I just chuckled at yet more numbers but I did wonder if they might be the smaller numbers on the no 6 pole. I'm sure there are theories out there

i choose to not pay attention to any of the numbers in this show

upon rewatching all of it i will consult a wiki that lists the numbers that meant something and then let out an amused "hmph!" every time they come up

In addition to, obviously, all sorts of other horrible implications, Becky's death would presumably have an impact on/shift the dynamics of the yet-to-come second visit to the area near Jack Rabbit's Palace and whatever it will entail.

Ugh, the thought of Becky being dead depresses me like hell right now :(

Lynch probably just killed off Todd so that he wouldn't have to pursue that plot line anymore & could focus on others. And I'm perfectly cool with that because there's a ton of shit this shows gotta tie up in 3 episodes (or it at least needs to do enough tying up - some mystery is still fun)

But yeah this episode ruled. The audrey stuff is starting to drag though

JJL & T.Roth saying "I love you Hutch" & "I love you Chantal" was a pretty obvious nod to Pulp Fiction opening scene.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That whole scene felt like an ott Tarantino homage.

Man, the shots following Bad Coop through the darkness of the convenience store were amazing. Only let down was when the MC started introducing Sharp Dressed Man I thought Xiu Xiu might be about play :(

I like that the Roadhouse MC apparently also just introduces songs that they're playing over the PA. Like between every song he gets on stage and hypes everyone up for "Hot Blooded" or whatever.

Who was the 'bosomy/busty'(I can't remember which) woman in the credits? It seemed like an odd description, and I can't think who that would be.

The person who opens the door for evil coop

xp I wonder if he has any props other than the posterboard with a volume dial drawn on to it

maybe a little thermometer slider for "Hot Blooded"

when evil coop gets told "you've already met judy" it made me wonder whether jeffries is correctly saying he's met judy, or if he's still confused about what year it is and which cooper he's talking to!

also got a little weirded out, do the dopplegangers know all of the things the real ones do? because evil coop didn't seem to be lying about remembering meeting jeffries at the fbi office

Started thinking Judy is Diane.

That woman who opened the door also appeared at the very end, after the credits. It was really really creepy.

Judy and Janey

I'm thinking "Judy" might be a reference to...
http://www.moviemoviesite.com/Films/1958/USA/vertigo/vertigo29.jpg

the only other observation I've got following this episode was that the number Jeffries gave had some weird spacing, making me first think it might be coordinates because every third number looked like an exponent

480 551
looked like 48^0 55^1 iirc

It wouldn't be the first nod to Vertigo in TP, e.g. Laura's doppelganger being named Madeleine.

And of course, in the film Judy and Madeleine turned out to be one and the same...so does it follow that Judy = Laura?

(I'm almost certain this won't be the case, but I just thought that would be a neat bit of symmetry.)

Seen a lot of people suggesting that Judy is major GARLAND Briggs

xps the doppelgänger has all original coop's memories I'm pretty sure, he knew to ask about annie, addressed Harry by name - also none of his crazy schemes would really make sense otherwise as they're all predicated on things & people Cooper knew

Btw the Sarah Palmer Jumping Man thing is kinda blowing my mind, I was very excited to see that incredibly brief flash of JM but didn't see the overlay of her face at all. Was she credited?

The person who opens the door for evil coop

Really? Because of all the words I wod have used to describe her that wouldn't be one of them. It's an odd description for someone who is 'terrifying' 'gatekeeping' and so on - she's also the only woman we see above the store.

(bosomy/busty are maybe not traits I would notice . I would rewatch but I'm saving my rewatch for the whole thing)

It's a reference to the restaurant "twin peaks"

How so?

There seems to perhaps be some link between the masked Lodge figures (Jumping Man, Chalfont the younger) and the Palmer women with removable faces. There was speculation at some point that Judy might be the monkey which appears in FWWM (uttering the name 'Judy' at some point) and whose face manifests beneath the mask of the Chalfont boy at one point.

Who actually knows what's going on.

ALSO, the room that Cooper first went through above the convenience store, that was the room in the picture in Laura's bedroom, wasn't it? The wallpaper looked the same. I think I need to rewatch FWWM ASAP.

I meant the name, as a descriptor. I know she has a bunch of connections to/ is entirely of the black lodge.

It's not a big deal, I was just confused by the character name.

ALSO, the room that Cooper first went through above the convenience store, that was the room in the picture in Laura's bedroom, wasn't it? The wallpaper looked the same.

yep, i lost my mind when it happened

xp I found the name odd too, I was just making a joke ("twin peaks" is the name of a hooters-style "breastaurant" in the states)

the final scene of inland empire (the lipsynch/coordinated dance to "sinnerman" attended by nikki/sue, camilla rhodes and a monkey (which may or may not be a reference to fwwm)) is such a good cap to lynch's filmmaking career that i'm really looking forward to... however this thing ends

whole twin peaks cast dances to "gimme all your lovin'" imo

Hopefully something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlpZuvkW-nc

def seems to be a strain of alchemical transmutation symbolism running through the show - gold/silver recurring all over the place as positive symbols from the silver/metallic sheen of the Fireman's house/theater/white lodge + their golden horn (and Laura in a golden bubble?), the gold shovels, Log Lady saying her log has turned to gold, gold rings etc.

whereas by contrast the Black Lodge vibe is black + burnt out, charred, ash, smoke

also just thinking about how in inland empire justin theroux technically plays a character named "billy" who disappears from the movie about halfway through

I was thinking it'd be hilarious if the woman who unlocked the door for Evil Coop was Judy

dude... you just saw her two seconds ago, what do you mean "who is judy?"

judy is not diane, diane is diane, her name is diane (not judy)

i'm judy

Nonono I'm Judy

There's a theory floating that Naido may be Judy.

Except her name is Naido, as evidenced by her mane being Naido.

damn it I'm done with typing