Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

xp I wonder if he has any props other than the posterboard with a volume dial drawn on to it

maybe a little thermometer slider for "Hot Blooded"

when evil coop gets told "you've already met judy" it made me wonder whether jeffries is correctly saying he's met judy, or if he's still confused about what year it is and which cooper he's talking to!

also got a little weirded out, do the dopplegangers know all of the things the real ones do? because evil coop didn't seem to be lying about remembering meeting jeffries at the fbi office

Started thinking Judy is Diane.

That woman who opened the door also appeared at the very end, after the credits. It was really really creepy.

Judy and Janey

I'm thinking "Judy" might be a reference to...
http://www.moviemoviesite.com/Films/1958/USA/vertigo/vertigo29.jpg

the only other observation I've got following this episode was that the number Jeffries gave had some weird spacing, making me first think it might be coordinates because every third number looked like an exponent

480 551
looked like 48^0 55^1 iirc

It wouldn't be the first nod to Vertigo in TP, e.g. Laura's doppelganger being named Madeleine.

And of course, in the film Judy and Madeleine turned out to be one and the same...so does it follow that Judy = Laura?

(I'm almost certain this won't be the case, but I just thought that would be a neat bit of symmetry.)

Seen a lot of people suggesting that Judy is major GARLAND Briggs

xps the doppelgänger has all original coop's memories I'm pretty sure, he knew to ask about annie, addressed Harry by name - also none of his crazy schemes would really make sense otherwise as they're all predicated on things & people Cooper knew

Btw the Sarah Palmer Jumping Man thing is kinda blowing my mind, I was very excited to see that incredibly brief flash of JM but didn't see the overlay of her face at all. Was she credited?

The person who opens the door for evil coop

Really? Because of all the words I wod have used to describe her that wouldn't be one of them. It's an odd description for someone who is 'terrifying' 'gatekeeping' and so on - she's also the only woman we see above the store.

(bosomy/busty are maybe not traits I would notice . I would rewatch but I'm saving my rewatch for the whole thing)

It's a reference to the restaurant "twin peaks"

How so?

There seems to perhaps be some link between the masked Lodge figures (Jumping Man, Chalfont the younger) and the Palmer women with removable faces. There was speculation at some point that Judy might be the monkey which appears in FWWM (uttering the name 'Judy' at some point) and whose face manifests beneath the mask of the Chalfont boy at one point.

Who actually knows what's going on.

ALSO, the room that Cooper first went through above the convenience store, that was the room in the picture in Laura's bedroom, wasn't it? The wallpaper looked the same. I think I need to rewatch FWWM ASAP.

I meant the name, as a descriptor. I know she has a bunch of connections to/ is entirely of the black lodge.

It's not a big deal, I was just confused by the character name.

ALSO, the room that Cooper first went through above the convenience store, that was the room in the picture in Laura's bedroom, wasn't it? The wallpaper looked the same.

yep, i lost my mind when it happened

xp I found the name odd too, I was just making a joke ("twin peaks" is the name of a hooters-style "breastaurant" in the states)

the final scene of inland empire (the lipsynch/coordinated dance to "sinnerman" attended by nikki/sue, camilla rhodes and a monkey (which may or may not be a reference to fwwm)) is such a good cap to lynch's filmmaking career that i'm really looking forward to... however this thing ends

whole twin peaks cast dances to "gimme all your lovin'" imo

Hopefully something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlpZuvkW-nc

def seems to be a strain of alchemical transmutation symbolism running through the show - gold/silver recurring all over the place as positive symbols from the silver/metallic sheen of the Fireman's house/theater/white lodge + their golden horn (and Laura in a golden bubble?), the gold shovels, Log Lady saying her log has turned to gold, gold rings etc.

whereas by contrast the Black Lodge vibe is black + burnt out, charred, ash, smoke

also just thinking about how in inland empire justin theroux technically plays a character named "billy" who disappears from the movie about halfway through

I was thinking it'd be hilarious if the woman who unlocked the door for Evil Coop was Judy

dude... you just saw her two seconds ago, what do you mean "who is judy?"

judy is not diane, diane is diane, her name is diane (not judy)

i'm judy

Nonono I'm Judy

There's a theory floating that Naido may be Judy.

Except her name is Naido, as evidenced by her mane being Naido.

damn it I'm done with typing

people have so many names these days though

Judy is an allusion to Punch & Judy. This narrows the candidates down to only a few dozen twin peaks women

judy ate the cicada frog, and then grew up to be the lady who unlocked the motel door

judy is dame judy dench, which if you spell it differently is briggs. bobby briggs.

SPOILER: Eddie Vedder will perform this song for the finale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaWaQBxc0aI

Judy Sheindlin funds the glass box

so the coordinates Mr. C has so desperately been after were for the convenience store...?

like Karl, I have been steadfastly ignoring all the numerology in this lol

No, he already knew where the convenience store was

I thought that the woman who opens the door for bad Cooper was maybe the scary person from Mulholland Drive but it's a guy called Malachy Sreenan.

so the coordinates Mr. C has so desperately been after were for the convenience store...?

this is what it seemed like to me

He asked Ray for the coordinates & then asked him where Jeffries was, a separate question. Ray said "the Dutchman's" & he was like ah cool I know that place, went to see Jeffries, now is going to the coordinates imo

...which are surely for somewhere in twin peaks

ah

I was confused cuz yeah I was like "wait why wouldn't Booper know where the convenience store is"

maybe it moves around in space and time

We saw it move. So yes probably.

The Matrix phone move was lame.

I thought it was great. He's still demanding answers, and ends up answering the phone only for it to boot him out of the room!

But it was the same shit from the Matrix