Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

also just thinking about how in inland empire justin theroux technically plays a character named "billy" who disappears from the movie about halfway through

I was thinking it'd be hilarious if the woman who unlocked the door for Evil Coop was Judy

dude... you just saw her two seconds ago, what do you mean "who is judy?"

judy is not diane, diane is diane, her name is diane (not judy)

i'm judy

Nonono I'm Judy

There's a theory floating that Naido may be Judy.

Except her name is Naido, as evidenced by her mane being Naido.

damn it I'm done with typing

people have so many names these days though

Judy is an allusion to Punch & Judy. This narrows the candidates down to only a few dozen twin peaks women

judy ate the cicada frog, and then grew up to be the lady who unlocked the motel door

judy is dame judy dench, which if you spell it differently is briggs. bobby briggs.

SPOILER: Eddie Vedder will perform this song for the finale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaWaQBxc0aI

Judy Sheindlin funds the glass box

so the coordinates Mr. C has so desperately been after were for the convenience store...?

like Karl, I have been steadfastly ignoring all the numerology in this lol

No, he already knew where the convenience store was

I thought that the woman who opens the door for bad Cooper was maybe the scary person from Mulholland Drive but it's a guy called Malachy Sreenan.

so the coordinates Mr. C has so desperately been after were for the convenience store...?

this is what it seemed like to me

He asked Ray for the coordinates & then asked him where Jeffries was, a separate question. Ray said "the Dutchman's" & he was like ah cool I know that place, went to see Jeffries, now is going to the coordinates imo

...which are surely for somewhere in twin peaks

ah

I was confused cuz yeah I was like "wait why wouldn't Booper know where the convenience store is"

maybe it moves around in space and time

We saw it move. So yes probably.

The Matrix phone move was lame.

I thought it was great. He's still demanding answers, and ends up answering the phone only for it to boot him out of the room!

But it was the same shit from the Matrix

I didn't make that connection at all

i know it's been mentioned 1000x on this thread but the sound during the conversation between evil coop and jeffries was amazing. all of the looping, heaving, mechanical wheezings. when the phone ringing was added to the mix it racketed up the tension to unbelievable levels.

such a good headphone show.

Kinda disappointing that Evil Cooper doesn't seem to have any more insight into the plot than I do

anyone have any thoughts on what/where jeffries is now? or what he is?

beyond just "he's in the black lodge" i guess

Has it ever been mentioned what case Jeffries was investigating when he disappeared the first time?

Jeffries is now the Water, and that teapot is the Well

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dig yourself out of the shit

Has it ever been mentioned what case Jeffries was investigating when he disappeared the first time?

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http://abovethestore.blogspot.com/2009/04/judy-judy-judy.html

Kyle's looped body language in the scene where he's clicking the remote was some fine acting

we are all judy

that link old lunch posted is very good

That blog is packed with all sorts of excellent speculative material. I read through pretty much the entire thing leading up to The Return.

xxxxxxxp?

I also suspect that Judy is Laura.

1) Given that Laura plays such a predominant role in the reaction to the nuclear blast, it seems that she would be worth searching for.

2) Since we have other characters who sort of have many names (Leland = Bob), it wouldn't be unusual for Laura to have one. Again, especially because she seems to have some sort of cosmic significance. (Maybe Judy is the good version of Bob?)

3) Cooper perhaps has met Judy/Laura: in the waiting room or in his dreams or whatever.

4) Finally given that movie references have been brought to the forefront (e.g., Sunset Boulevard), the Madeleine vs. Judy thing from Vertigo seems more compelling. But that's all speculation.

i like that the entire jeffries dialogue puts bad cooper in a position traditionally inhabited by good cooper in the original series

I was thinking maybe Susan Palmer or whatever's inhabiting her might be Judy.

anyone else get guild navigator vibez from jeffries?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGqdE1NdMTg

and the Judy Garland Briggs thing kinda jives seeing that Wizard of Oz is such a huge thing in FWWM

Movie references seem like more stable anchors in TP than anything else.

That is a good blog post (ty OL) but as the author admits Lynch just makes this shit up and revises as he goes along, seems like it'd be maddening to try to take any kind of scholarly approach to this stuff.

Yeah, that's a fool's errand, for sure. I read a very good essay which laid out a case for the Deer Meadow sequence/return of Phillip Jeffries in FWWM being a 'dream' (or whatever one might call those Lynchian sequences which are not meant to represent anything resembling objective reality), based largely on the original shooting script and what was subsequently altered after MacLachlan limited his participation in the film. It was all very convincing, but that whole theory has been pretty much demolished by events in The Return.

Rewatched 1st few scenes

Nadine crying out "I'M FINE NOW!" with manic intensity while holding a golden shit-shovel over her shoulder, Ed's like "lol seems legit"

Wonder how many more times we're gonna get that threnody needle drop

Some nice absurd humour in the Jeffries meeting, like Mr C taking out the pen & pad. Also when he asks if Jeffries called him 5 days ago, it's just funny to have a giant percolator say "ah don't have yoah numbah"

xp that theory is from John Thorne, wrapped in plastic creator & author of that same blog