I didn't mean to sound rude San. But once I quoted something from a painstakingly researched economic history of Nazi era Germany by Tooze, and it questioned some of the received wisdom that you get on wikipedia, on that era. And you tried to rubbish it by quoting blocks of wikipedia, I'm just saying your sources on history are not up there with your science posts.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 08:21 (six years ago) link
Wargamers/armchair generals are really meticulous with orders of battle and the like, and seem to be the ones responsible for the French Wiki, which covers the battles of 1940 in far greater detail than English wiki does. One can drill down the French OoB here for regimental subcommands and battle histories, to a much greater extent than I've seen with US and UK OoBs on English Wiki (where the Soviet OoB is a horrible mess).
― tactical piñata (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
Dunkirk is amazingly a Nolan movie, on so many plans and with so many details that I do not have to flush the surprises.
dying
― flopson, Friday, 25 August 2017 06:13 (six years ago) link
fred can you write all your posts in danish filtered thru google translate? thx
― flopson, Friday, 25 August 2017 06:14 (six years ago) link
Wait, what do you think I've been doing until now?
― Frederik B, Friday, 25 August 2017 12:16 (six years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod#Idiom
― mark s, Friday, 25 August 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b0/Green_Day_-_Nimrod_cover.jpg
― flopson, Friday, 25 August 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link
not that i couldn't suspend disbelief but virtually every actor cast in this was gorgeous, looked like a Ralph Lauren advert or something; seas of perfectly coiffed, thick black hair and razor-sharp jawlines
― flopson, Friday, 25 August 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
i couldn't tell one floppy haired muscle faced twerp from another.
― angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Friday, 25 August 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2419/2062471345_d821c3e87b.jpg
Maybe there was a golden age for British handsomeness.
― tactical piñata (Sanpaku), Friday, 25 August 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
yeah god not even a blonde or a ginger in sight on the beach there, army of brown haired abercrombie models
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 August 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
god that french kid aka Gibson was gorgeous
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 August 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
good god, this thread is full of vitriol. this movie is fucking beautiful... kinda felt like The Master, Bridge of Spies, and The Thin Red Line (w/o the monologues). Not a huge fan of Nolan - loved The Prestige, and this was just gorgeous. Why all the hate? it wasn't accurate enough?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:45 (six years ago) link
For a start the jingoism is unbearable, and some of Mail/Express cheerleaders for this garbage made it easier to hate. The sense of scale is all wrong as well, it should be subtitled 100 people on a beach.
― calzino, Thursday, 21 December 2017 09:01 (six years ago) link
I mean there are lots of old jingoist war films from that era that I like. But Nolan doing BE nostalgia in '17 makes me want the Nazis to develop a nuke.
― calzino, Thursday, 21 December 2017 09:10 (six years ago) link
wait this is based on a true story?
― a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 December 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link
yeah, a classic good vs evil story. I wasn't expecting something to better Rossellini's War Trilogy from a clown like Nolan. But even taken as a basic action movie, this is very poor imo.
― calzino, Thursday, 21 December 2017 09:37 (six years ago) link
love2Churchill
― a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 December 2017 09:43 (six years ago) link
The sense of scale is all wrong as well, it should be subtitled 100 people on a beach.― calzino
― calzino
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
also, Mail/Express cheerleaders? not sure what you're referring to exactly.. (my apology)
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
these are right-wing tabloids in britain that loved the film's alleged jingoism
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
glad to see the pure cinema minimalist Nolan doesn't need special fx, stop it lol!
― calzino, Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
One of my favourite war movies evokes the Western Front without casts of thousands or CGI. But this just does look like 100 actors pissing about on a beach at the best of times. Atonement isn't a particularly great movie but it's Dunkirk evacuation scenes are least evocative, CGI and all.
― calzino, Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
This was good twouldnt make me take the soup or anything
The bit where branagh looked through his binoculars to see already clearly visible and anticipated boats just so he could say "heaume" was shit
The rest was good
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link
"This was good twouldnt make me take the soup or anything"
fucking puddle watter has more nutrients than Nolan soup.
― calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link
Ah now of all ilxors not to get a historical reference
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Monday, 29 January 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link
I'm just talking bout Nolan here, y'know. I do get BE imperialism and the famine etc..
― calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link
Nolan eh? That's not a very English name now is it?
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 29 January 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link
he's obviously a product of fucking diminished tatty watter!
― calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link
Cast also tbh
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Monday, 29 January 2018 01:26 (six years ago) link
i watched this a couple weekends ago, familiar war-movie sentiments in a gaudy package
that boy soldier on the run gave a fine silent-film-style performance tho
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 January 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
i love him, he was v good
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link
finally got around to seeing this, it was almost exactly what i was expecting, which i guess says something about me or nolan or both of us
it's very handsome, it's very pleased with how cleverly-structured it is, and it is almost entirely emotionally inert, which is quite an achievement given that it's the story of hundreds of thousands of desperate men standing on a beach waiting to die
you might imagine would that would be hard to make into anything other than gripping, flopsweat-drenched human drama but this is christopher nolan baby and he can make distant, stories filled with numb robotic characters out of even the juiciest raw material
the air combat scenes were indeed gorgeous to look at and tom hardy was great but nolan manages to hamstring himself in this section with his own cleverness by having the three timelines converge and then diverge again, intercutting hardy running out of fuel with the soldiers coming home, which makes it seem like hardy's just been gliding back and forth across the skies over dunkirk for the entire night
kinda appropriate tho that a movie so metaphorically bloodless should be so literally bloodless too - you'd expect there to be some claret spilled when soldiers on the beach are being hit point-blank by bombs but iirc the only actual blood we see is when the enid blyton kid on mark rylance's boat falls down and whacks his noggin
also hans zimmer's ever-present score was like tinnitus
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 19 March 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link
just watched. I actually found the music score annoying and a tad innapropriate in most scenes. Apart from that it's a decent movie.
― Ste, Thursday, 4 June 2020 10:25 (three years ago) link
Finally saw this. Thought it was pretty good! Agree the aggressively modern white noise soundtrack was a little ... discordant, but I'm not sure I would have preferred a more predictably rousing score. I also agree with a (neither here nor there) criticism that everyone is just a little too handsome, but whatevs. Also agree that it was a surprising decision to make the movie virtually bloodless, but given so much of it is kind of metaphorically bloodless (by design) it kind of goes with the cold theme, like the entire movie is being experienced through a haze of shock.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link