Or touches her shoulder, I should say. Cooper and tmfap look at the ones they're touching, not directly at the angel or bob, respectively
― Dan I., Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link
Amanda Seyfried is doing a good job as Becky; as for whether or not I care about her character: most of them are getting a relatively small number of scenes, appearing at the most a couple of times per episode every two or three weeks. It's hard for anyone new to break through when there's so many other questions about the narrative and they're competing with established interest in the older characters. Naomi Watts has had more to work with, for example, and I'm more invested in her character's fate.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
The minor characters' stories (esp in twin peaks itself) work for me the way that short fiction does - I can respond to good actors in interesting situations without having had hours/years to "invest" in them. I love the roadhouse scenes which are kinda the ultimate example of this.
― streeps of range (wins), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link
Magritte/Lynch
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20952920_1486259341442815_2829130925020481198_n.jpg?oh=bc049c1d2c19c22fbcbc4507e39767b8&oe=5A611FB1
― May contain peanuts, tree nuts, soy, wheat, pits or pit fragments. (WilliamC), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link
on reevaluation eric dare still sucks
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:48 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, when your mom is the casting director, sometimes you get a part
― mh, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
Very nice
xp
― Moodles, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link
Yeah that's great
― streeps of range (wins), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
lollllll I never knew this!
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Johanna Ray is Eric Da Re's mom. It wasn't quite nepotism iirc when amick was reading for the part of Shelly he was just around & helping out by supplying Leo's lines, & lynch liked their chemistry
― streeps of range (wins), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link
^insert punctuation as appropriate
Not only do we have a top tier review of Part 15 of @SHO_TwinPeaks, but an interview with Freddie Sykes himself: https://t.co/xyenjXZINk pic.twitter.com/bjp2B1900T— TwinPeaks S3 podcast (@TPSeason3) August 23, 2017
Right at the end of this podcast they interview jake wardle, it's pretty interesting - he goes into how he was cast, the exaggerated nature of the accent (he is from the east end irl but does not talk like that)
The whole ep is p good, there's some discussion of a funny theory that's apparently out there re Audrey. One of the hosts also speculates that the bosomy woman is a nod to psycho, because the actor is male & appears to manage the motel
― streeps of range (wins), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
If anyone is a fan of The Best Show, AP Mike got the guy who plays the drunk in the jail to call in for a few minutes last night. It's Mike's favorite character, which is perfect if you know the show.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link
yes looking forward to that, i haven't listened to the episode yet but i saw mike hounding the guy on twitter to call in
― na (NA), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link
whoever upthread said the guy who plays steven is brad dourif-esque is otm, he's got the bug eyes and wispy moustache and everything
― na (NA), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
dourif chills me to the bone, steven grosses me out
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
Amanda Seyfried is doing a good job as Becky; as for whether or not I care about her character: most of them are getting a relatively small number of scenes, appearing at the most a couple of times per episode every two or three weeks. It's hard for anyone new to break through when there's so many other questions about the narrative and they're competing with established interest in the older characters.
They've established enough about Becky to make the viewer care if and when the expected horrific thing happens. Also, we definitely care about Shelley and Bobby and anything that happens to her affects them directly.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link
We rewatched FWWM right before the new season, and then we rewatched it again last night -- this time thru, all kinds of things clicked. Not that elegant plotting has ever been the point of TP, but it's still pretty impressive that they've tried to connect so many threads all the way through the first series to FWWM to TP:TR.
Also, this time thru FWWM I really realized how much of it is made up of these extended freak-out set pieces, with lots of music and lights and little or no dialogue. It's a pretty spectacular film, and very much has its own vibe distinct from either of the TV series.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
― Chris L, Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:52 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Looooooool, of course he is. I clearly need to catch up!
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
but it's still pretty impressive that they've tried to connect so many threads all the way through the first series to FWWM to TP:TR.
This my big takeaway from the new series, the reveal that every single loose thread in that movie had significant meaning and purpose. It's fascinating to ponder how much of that movie's mythology Lynch knew at the time then sat on for 25 years, versus how much he made up after the fact
― Evan R, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
Also doing the math in my head, and if it took a 16 hour extrapolation for that 2 and 1/2 hour movie to make complete sense, it'd take about another 115 hours of television to completely explain and tie up the loose ends of this new series
― Evan R, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
i don't really see what significant things about fwwm have been revealed by the return. am i just being dense?
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
all the f'n phillip jeffries stuff! the room above the convenience store!
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
The woodsmen!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
Carl!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:19 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:24 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i still find that stuff really enigmatic though!
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link
But now it has more to go with it, where in the movie it was just kinda out of nowhere.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
the main takeaway was that we needed more Carl, and we have received more Carl
― mh, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
Speaking of Surrealist refs in Lynch, a friend pointed out the similarity of Naido's arrival to Étant Donnés by Duchamp - hoping this slight crop will prevent it from being unsafe for the workplace:http://i.imgur.com/9Go5yE2.jpg
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
carl seems to have had a big of a change of heart. he was supremely cranky, though not malevolent, in fwwm. seems like a real nice dude in the return
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
hey woke him up before 9am!!
― mh, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link
he's already been places
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
Yeah, he was only cranky wrt folks ignoring his clearly-posted instructions.
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
he was also cranky when chester desmond comes back in the evening though. he didn't have a sign about after 9pm
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
Carl's good to go so long as he has enough Good Morning America
― Moodles, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
imo the perception that fwwm's mysteries are being explained away just comes from the incongruity of seeing elements like Jeffries, Judy, the ring and the blue rose placed within a more Frostian narrative mode. I think in the end a lot of this stuff will remain pretty inscrutable tho, and we'll get very concrete answers to some old mysteries but in a way that only raises more questions - which is what fwwm itself did.
Given frost's lack of input into the film it is interesting how much they're leaning on things introduced in that film like electricity & all the blue rose stuff & the fat trout, while stuff from the series like the owls & the bookhouse boys recede into the background or are ignored altogether.
― streeps of range (wins), Thursday, 24 August 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link
I was just thinking this evening that this series could use more Frost. Kinda bathetic that the Man from Another Place's eerie "Eeellhuctriccitty" just referred to exactly that, too. Oh well.
― albvivertine, Thursday, 24 August 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link
All the dialogue in that scene is incredibly literal!
― streeps of range (wins), Thursday, 24 August 2017 12:29 (six years ago) link
Wins otm about FWWM
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 24 August 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link
I know! I preferred not knowing :(
― albvivertine, Thursday, 24 August 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link
Has there been any speculation on why the appearance of the convenience store and the Woodsmen differs so much between FWWM and The Return? Or is it safe to assume that it's just an instance of Lynch deciding 'I want things to look like this now'?
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 August 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link
― albvivertine, Thursday, August 24, 2017 6:01 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
do you really know that much more
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 August 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link
But I mean the electricity motif was firmly established in the film itself, with the character of the electrician and the many shots of power lines accompanied by the whoop of the little man/arm. "Electricity!" is one of the least enigmatic lines of dialogue ever uttered in the lodge pretty much from the off.
― streeps of range (wins), Thursday, 24 August 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Thursday, August 24, 2017 6:32 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i'm guessing he wanted them to have a more sinister aspect. before the new season i thought the woodsmen in fwwm were fbi agents trying to blend into the lodge
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 August 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
They used to simply employ glaringly-fake beards, but they're now utilizing state-of-the-art techniques to transform themselves into kitchen appliances.
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 August 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link
But I mean the electricity motif was firmly established in the film itself
Not just in the film but throughout Lynch's work.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
Yeah I guess I mean it's given an overt plot significance in fwwm that wasn't there before
― streeps of range (wins), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
Rewatching the second half of this episode I got choked up all over again at the log lady scenes, and also at the final roadhouse scene which is amazingly cathartic. One thing I really appreciate about the scene in the conference room is the way it's lit so that you can clearly see the tears streaming down Lucy's face but the faces of Andy and Bobby, two of the characters most associated with spontaneous weeping, are almost completely hidden in darkness. It's a nice acknowledgement that the usual twin peaks approach to displays of grief, much as we all love it, is not appropriate here (goaz's mugging particularly would detract from the gravity and quiet dignity of the scene)
― streeps of range (wins), Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
Andy reminds me so much of a silent film comedian
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
not convinced the woodsmen became a significant image and theme for TP until the return started and lynch decided to revisit the look of that dude.
― akm, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link
i've really been thinking a lot about jeffrie's monologue though from FWWM lately. one line I forgot isn't even in the original film was "they sat silently for hours" after "and then there they were"; I guess that's only on the unedited missing pieces scene, but it seems very important now.
― akm, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link