Fave, freighted line from this ep--Diane saying, "It had only happened once before..."
― sciatica, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link
I think my favourite line might be "gassin' up the jet!"
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link
I thought Diane was saying "I'm a sherrif's station", not "I'm in a sherrif's station"
― akm, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
Followed up by "wonder what dougie's up to now?" Knepper and belushi are really nailing the ben & jer vibe xp to me
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
upon the suggestion that Naido is actually Diane, I rewatched her monologue a few times and she appears to say "I'm in the sheriff's station. I'm in the sheriff's station. Am I in the sheriff's station? I'm not me. I'm not me" - idk, I'm fine to not speculate further...
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, August 28, 2017 10:55 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Diane is Chad
― mh, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
My favorite line was "These are what you call finger sandwiches"
― akm, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link
Haha yes, I hope they make the trek up to TP from Spokane, not ready to let them go yet
Candie had another scene-stealer too
xp to wins
― sciatica, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link
I think Dougie was kind of a half-assed creation, with a half-ass fabricated past, that only existed because the doppleganger needed a patsy to hand off to the lodge when he was supposed to go back in.
The Diane doppleganger, on the other hand, was able to remember most of her life, even if she was a little glitchy. When she first receive the ":-) ALL" text, it seemed like confirmation she'd been brainwashed -- she immediately texts coordinates, fulfilling her task, but also says "oh, Coop" in this sad, wistful voice. I thought maybe that was her signal to remember everything that had happened, including her undercover snitching for doppleCoop and the fact he hurt her.
But as soon as her story explaining all the things she remembers went into "he took me to a gas station" territory, my thoughts went to, "oh fuck, that's not even Diane"
― mh, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link
this theory that naido is the real Diane is sorta batshit (since she looks totally different, which afaict has not been the case with other doppelgangers/tulpa relationships) but makes sense on a bunch of levels
― Οὖτις, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link
xp I thought the conversation about law enforcement, ending with "Start right now, that's going to change!" was an indicator that Cooper is planning on going with them all the way
― mh, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link
maybe Diane evolved while in the lodge, like the arm did
The Diane post-mortem special effects were pretty... interesting. 25 year old technology?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link
seeing that Diane bubble made me think of the puzzle game bust a move
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link
Were they that different from the Dougie fx? I loved them
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link
Guys, guys, best line of the episode was clearly Belushi's '(snaps) Side effects!'
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link
badalemti music ruled
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link
*badalmenti
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link
xxp lol my wording was sloppy there. I'm don't mean that in a transactional way, just in a narrative sense. After 25 years of absence and sorrow the guy deserves a happy ending, and the family would seem to offer him that fulfillment.
This is still closer to "Quantum Leap finale" as narrative logic than it is to Frost/Lynch or what we know of Cooper's character. Conventional wisdom ("families make men happy") that gets weird the more you look at it. Cooper is compassionate and unfailingly polite but he's also defined, literally, by his job, and is a bit remote and self-centered as a result. He's going to take decisive action to correct a wrong introduced by his doppelgänger but he's not going to spend the rest of his life in that role.
― sciatica, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link
btw i thought vedder's extremely controversial song was ok
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
Actually didn't hate it, fedora and all
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link
I liked Vedder's song though the octopus punching line was a bit weird (esp since so much of the rest was actually perfectly apropos)
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, it was fine, I just wish someone had told him to maybe avoid using TP character names in his song. But maybe the mentions of Diane actually mean something inasmuch as the Vedder performance seems to have taken place entirely in Audrey's mind (or whatever winds up being the case there).
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link
i want the name of the one person responsible for the white dude in the old man hat voice
― Brad C., Monday, 28 August 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
Was that the first song to be performed live, not mimed? It seemed like it.
― sciatica, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
I'm extremely skeptical of Jim Belushi but he really has been nailing it
― mh, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
no some others were live I believe xp
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
lol I assume old lunch is joking but I also kept hearing it as "Diane, who I am"
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link
Coop also didn't see those guys punch Gelman. Every interaction he's had with them they've been super nice and friendly (excepting that when he met them they were about to murder him if not for Belushi's dream...)
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link
he's also defined, literally, by his job
This is why I like the "I am the FBI" line - I've always thought it was hilarious how the interdimensional entities address him as "agent Cooper", even 25 years after he left that career. By any logical metric he isnt FBI, but in the world of twin peaks where the FBI is a kind of chivalric order, he 100% is.
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link
he's taken a long, involuntary leave of absence
― mh, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
shit, Don Murray is in this
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link
and he's fucking outstanding
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link
otm he's a delight
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link
Lol, yeah Cooper's confident insistence about being FBI was kinda hilarious. I tried to imagine just showing up one day at a job I'd abruptly quit decades ago and getting to work as if no time had passed.
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
find yourself someone who looks at you the way janey-e and sonny jim look at dougie driving a car
http://imgur.com/a/t5UJN
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link
― mh, Monday, August 28, 2017 12:23 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
seems reasonable, especially since naido was in an entirely different part of the Black Lodge, the Purple Room - maybe got thrown down there by the arm's doppelganger the same way coop did
― extremely amy dunne voice (slothroprhymes), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link
xp g d broken image
http://i.imgur.com/E5jMgo3.jpg
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link
I always kind of want to brush Janey-E's hair.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link
Conventional wisdom ("families make men happy") that gets weird the more you look at it. Cooper is compassionate and unfailingly polite but he's also defined, literally, by his job, and is a bit remote and self-centered as a result.
His job is his identity for sure, but he's also a huge romantic who wound up in the situation he's in to save the woman he loved (not that Annie plays much of a role in this series). His defining trait, aside from his sense of duty, is his love of life in its totality, though, so it makes sense to me that the company of a really strong woman and an upstanding son he can toss a baseball with would play a part in his happy ending.
There were so many places/situations they could have plopped a sidelined Cooper for 12 episodes, but I think this is the one that most emphasized the life he never got to live. The idea that Dougie, a literal non-entity, got to enjoy a fuller, more satisfying life than Coop did just seems so deeply sad to me.
― Evan R, Monday, 28 August 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link
That whole car ride was amazing, Watts has just been incredible every week. Think about Janey-E's "We drive terrible cars!!" exclamation so often
The Mitchum Bros. and the girls going to Twin Peaks has sold me on the Candie/Laura Palmer theories. Found the Hearts of Gold bit pretty funny given that if it wasn't for Lodge Pie and a heap of money they would have murdered him.
Once this ends I imagine I'm gonna watch this endlessly forever, a criterion release would be appreciated.
― devvvine, Monday, 28 August 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link
I will boldly predict that candie is not Laura palmer
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link
McLachlan was totally doing the movey-hand driving-acting thing.
― Cake hawn. (jed_), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link
Loved the episode but the Diane resolution robbed The Return of its least lazily created female character by handing over her agency to Mr C. The finale could right this and accentuate Laura and Audrey of course.
The Janey-E scenes post-Dale return were maddening too. Her passivity to finding out it wasn't Dougie & her adoration of his assuredness & impressive driving were a bit nauseating together for me. The power of the awakening moment steamrolling the personalities of the dependent characters. One minute i found myself punching the air, not long after i was eyerolling.
― lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9U1v6oeMpQ
― flappy bird, Monday, 28 August 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
Last night, my feeling was that Real Coop wants another doppelganger made to use as a decoy with Bad Coop, and that Real Coop will end the series back with Janey-E and Sonny Jim, but I'm not as convinced this morning. I keep (involuntarily) flashing on the end of Cast Away, where Hanks literally stands at a "do you see?!" crossroads with any future open to him.
Once this ends I imagine I'm gonna watch this endlessly forever, a criterion release would be appreciated. This would be an amazing coup. I wonder how home-video rights go with premium-cable shows. For Game of Thrones DVDs, studio is listed as HBO, but Ray Donovan (to pick a Showtime example) DVD studio is listed as Paramount.
― May contain peanuts, tree nuts, soy, wheat, pits or pit fragments. (WilliamC), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
― Cake hawn. (jed_), Monday, August 28, 2017 10:16 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha i noticed this
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link
wtf no, Cooper has been completely gone and has "enjoyed his time with" Janey-E and Sonny Jim, he's out. It wasn't "do you still have a seed" it was "do you still have _the seed_" even though we now know multiple seeds existed.
He's having a Dougie built to send back to Janey and Jim
― mh, Monday, 28 August 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link
Guys. When Diane texts... There's two sets of #TwinPeaks on her phone. First set: pic.twitter.com/NeGxPibE1t— --------- (@fatecolossal) August 28, 2017
This is one of the stupidest things
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
bwahahaha
― mh, Monday, 28 August 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
holy shit, my phone too! dopplemh confirmed