best food from Orwell's "In Defense of English Cooking"

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thanks scott i guess i could have googled that myself.
next time some new yorker guy is coming to play music in greenfield you should ask for a scotch egg from meyers of keswick.. they good.

ian, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/mintcustard.htm

^^^i tracked it down

mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

This is the thing - the quality of casual food in France and Italy is just so much better than it is here. You can go to a French inn largely frequented by lorry drivers and the food will be great.

For all that this is not true of England, I've certainly not found that France is much better at this level of expenditure tbh.

Look. Dublin prawns. I won't even.

Scotch eggs are magnificent. The crowning contribution of the scotch.

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

lamb with mint sauce is the only use for mint sauce that i can think of. in the states. kinda fuddy duddy. or that's how i think of it. like a 70s thing.

scott seward, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

lamb w mint sauce is definitely something my grandma would serve.

ian, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

Yorkies/crumpets/roasties = food of the gods.

Yes, I voted crumpets but this is the trifecta.

Crumpets with Marmite, strong cheddar + fried plantain are just phenomenal.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

tbh I dunno if English people use mint sauce for anything but lamb, I haven't anyway.

Scotch eggs suck. I thought maybe that was just a school dinners/crap supermarket thing, but my friend had a 40th birthday party a few weeks ago at a pub and they had "fancy" scotch eggs on the buffet table so I thought I'd give them another go, but no, still gross.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

i didn't like tesco scotch eggs but i felt like i ought to try 'em.

ian, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

mint sauce w/lamb first mentioned in 1743 by the great hannah glasse

https://superchef.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/hannahgasse_475x225.png

hannah^^^ scorns yr anecdotal anachronisms, scott

mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

I always load my Yorkshire Puddings with chopped onions, that is important for me.

calzino, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

Gonna have to make them, which is a fun waste of an afternoon.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

challopsed onion more like

anyway from now on i am going to refer to scotch eggs either as "narcissus meatballs" or as "gilded balls of stinking corruption" -- a rose by any other name bcz they are delicious

mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

(I voted Dublin prawns which are langoustines which are the main ingredient in decent scampi from the good chippy, so there).

Mint is poached in cream and then added to cooked peas to make... MUSHY PEAS!

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

(I voted Dublin prawns which are langoustines which are the main ingredient in decent scampi from the good chippy, so there).

Mint is poached in cream and then added to cooked peas to make... MUSHY PEAS!

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

never had mushy peas with cream in them

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

yes pea and mint is totally a thing, tho i associated it more with home-made pea soup than mushy peas (which arrive in a can after a process akin to the haggis machine with its stuffing horn iirc)

mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

mushy peas are probably the apex of english food for me.

i get dried peas and heat them up and serve them with far too much malt vinegar and salt and pepper

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

you would think there would be more fish on that list. there should be a separate fish list. poached fish! i really want fish and chips now...

although for fishy fish dishes i'd probably rather travel to italy...or spain...or greece...or portugal...or sweden...

scott seward, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

I only do cream in the mushy peas if I'm making industrial quantities, otherwise it's a couple of handfuls of heated freezer peas, a big pinch of mint, a knob of salted butter and quite a bit of white pepper, all blitzed.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

there should be a poll thread for the best food that looks like baby vomit. mushy peas might win that.

scott seward, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

I like that old WW2 story about the Whitehouse valet opening (Animal Farm hero) Molotov's suitcase and being surprised to see a chunk of black Russian bread, some large roll of sausage and a pistol being concealed, by the extremely paranoid guest.

calzino, Thursday, 31 August 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

there should be a poll thread for the best food that looks like baby vomit. mushy peas might win that.

― scott seward, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:57 (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

spinnakers clam chowder is the correct answer to this

imago, Thursday, 31 August 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

its hard to screw up applesauce

ciderpress, Thursday, 31 August 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

Scotch eggs should be a magnificent invention but I've only ever had crap ones that taste of sawdust. Even from Waitrose!

kinder, Thursday, 31 August 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

the sainsburys taste the difference ones are good - tho i prefer hot scotch eggs.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 31 August 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

i get a pack of quorn 'picnic eggs' every time i am back. i also make my dad stop at newport pagnall services so i can get a 99p cheese and onion sandwich. i'm kind of a foodie.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 August 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

jeez get a load of mr fuckin zagat over here

pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

One of the delights of the awaken of British cookery of the last 30 years has been the black pudding scotch egg

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 31 August 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

also m&s did a nice black pudding sausage roll for a while

mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

The best people to judge of English cooking would be the English, since they are the ones who are eating it. That is why I will refrain from voting in this poll. Have at it, you limeys!

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 September 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link

you would think there would be more fish on that list

There's a quote from Will Self back in his restaurant reviewing days along the lines of "although nowhere in England is much more than an hour's drive from the sea, it's easier in most places to buy hard drugs than fresh fish".

mahb, Friday, 1 September 2017 08:38 (six years ago) link

I only do cream in the mushy peas if I'm making industrial quantities, otherwise it's a couple of handfuls of heated freezer peas, a big pinch of mint, a knob of salted butter and quite a bit of white pepper, all blitzed

Sounds delicious, but not mushy peas.

mahb, Friday, 1 September 2017 08:39 (six years ago) link

The emergence of the hot pub scotch egg over the last few years has been a glorious thing.

Matt DC, Friday, 1 September 2017 08:47 (six years ago) link

I find the idea of something with a hard-boiled egg in it that isn't for immediate consumption, completely disgusting. I used to work with someone who used to eat these foul stinking egg mayo sandwiches, that had been sat sweating away in a van all morning. Just visualising a scotch egg makes me seriously gag.

calzino, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

re mr self's observation: tbh if i want to know where to purchase hard drugs i would first ask a (former) junkie but if i want to know where to purchase fresh fish, i would ask a (former) junkie last

mark s, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:27 (six years ago) link

here are the fishmongers in leicestershire, for example: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/leicestershire+fishmonger/@52.615389,-1.8390637,9z

mark s, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link

if you want to know where to purchase putrifying sharkmeat, ask an icelander

pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 September 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link

man now i want some pickled herring and schnapps

pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 September 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link

it seems like Will is one to never let the actual facts get in the way of a bad (me so dark ex-junkie) self-serving quip.

calzino, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:39 (six years ago) link

the thread of the pee shark

evolution gave us a shark made of pee that survives the icy depths of the arctic and eats bears, and we found a way to eat it

— um jammer trans g (@joffeorama) August 30, 2017

mark s, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:45 (six years ago) link

^^^centrist orwell runs, a mile, even bourdain couldn't even

(least fresh fish: it's 500 yrs old, it looks like mitch mconnell, it's made of pee, icelanders left it in a hole to rot)

mark s, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:47 (six years ago) link

https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/31/16235156/pee-shark-toxic-urea-greenland-twitter

pee story denied

I've been fascinated by Greenland Sharks since they appeared in one of my all-time favourite video games, Endless Ocean 2

a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 September 2017 09:49 (six years ago) link

non-denial denial in the view of this pee shark truther

mark s, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:52 (six years ago) link

If those are the places in Leicestershire where you can buy fresh fish then TBF to the Selfer it would be hard to find fresh fish in "most places" in Leicestershire.

Tim, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:53 (six years ago) link

it's true that you only find it in the shops that sell it

mark s, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:56 (six years ago) link

the pee shark also sometimes has glowing copepods eating its eyes in exchange for attracting more prey with their light

— um jammer trans g (@joffeorama) August 30, 2017

this is the future corbyn wants for the uk

WAKE UP PISS SHARKS

pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 September 2017 09:56 (six years ago) link

it's true that you only find it in the shops that sell it

Well if we're doing pedantry I insist it's not true that you can only find it in shops that sell it, but it is mostly true that you can only buy it in shops that sell it.

[My point was that most of the towns and villages in Leicestershire don't have a fishmonger, going by your map.]

Tim, Friday, 1 September 2017 10:00 (six years ago) link

I'd also argue that supermarkets have only raised their fish game in the last 5 years or so

a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 September 2017 10:01 (six years ago) link

most of the villages in Leicestershire don't have most kinds of shops, if any: this is what driving to town is for

self is probably correct that some of these villages do form the centre of the local drugs trade: just 50 yards from mum and dad's house in the very country a barn-full of heroin and hash was raided during operation bumblebee, but you couldn't just walk up to the barn and purchase a gramme or three

mark s, Friday, 1 September 2017 10:08 (six years ago) link

love that farm-to-bloodstream heroin, it's so in right now

pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 September 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link


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