That's walking it back slightly from her response the first time she was asked which was basically "lol what, no"
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
xp oh, I am sure it will (lol)
― mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
Her response when someone asked about Donna was "Donna didn't work out this season, unfortunately."
― streeps of range (wins), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link
i skimmed a sync of 17/18, even if it's a coincidence (really hard to believe when you see it), the ending is just incredible. echoing Karl upthread, it's so beautiful & uplifting - suggests Judy has been defeated
― flappy bird, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link
what if you watch the finale with your eyes closed, I bet that changes the ending entirely too
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
If you watch the series backwards it ends with a cryptic scene between Cooper and The Fireman
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link
see, I tried that, but it just turned into an episode of Ray Donovan
― flappy bird, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
A discussion of a David Lynch project is maybe the last place I would've expected to see such hardline arguments for the primacy of authorial intent but whatever floats y'all's boats, I guess.
― Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link
I don't care what Lynch's intentions were...? I'm just not really convinced by "watch show in THIS way" arguments revealing anything significant. Sure they may be entertaining or diversionary but that's about it.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 September 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
There are so many echoes that occur, twinned moments in different episodes, symmetries etc. I don't think there's any definitive way to view this thing, but some parts are so clearly meant to be cross-dimensional correspondences it's not really that much of a jump that synchronising some sequences would compliment/correspond. The Sarah smashing Laura pic/Coop & Carrie outside the house bit is stunning to watch in tandem.
― lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 11 September 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link
the Candie, Mandie, Sandie entrance is very similar to this incredible and weird af scene from BV
https://imgur.com/a/yfAy1
― Kat Slater Slag meme (jed_), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 01:55 (seven years ago) link
― Kat Slater Slag meme (jed_), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 01:56 (seven years ago) link
https://imgur.com/e9Lh3pp
?
― Kat Slater Slag meme (jed_), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 01:57 (seven years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ogwzRi7.jpg
― Kat Slater Slag meme (jed_), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link
finally! i hope it was worth something.
― Kat Slater Slag meme (jed_), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:03 (seven years ago) link
Love that scene
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 05:18 (seven years ago) link
Man, those conversations about Judy on Reddit are exhausting. Find it hard to care at all about the mysterious, vaguely defined evil that may or may not have even been shown on screen.
These Twin Peaks post-morts and dissections make me a little sad... glad people are debating, but the fact that they're focusing so much on shit we didn't see, and that takes up just a relative sliver of the show's 18 hours, is depressing. That entire Reddit thread is like a desperate attempt for fulfillment
― Evan R, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:45 (seven years ago) link
yeah i've checked out. i liked seeing reactions as the show ran but the never ending recapitulation and assessments are tiresome and boring.
― akm, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link
Dear Twitter Friends, YOU could join Sheryl Lee for cherry pie & join me as my @Fest VIP! https://t.co/4con8i0e20 pic.twitter.com/HO0g2fldyr— David Lynch (@DAVID_LYNCH) September 12, 2017
― streeps of range (wins), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link
Bill Hader?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link
Guessing they're friends or something
― streeps of range (wins), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link
To ask a dumb question -- Cole dumps Judy exposition at the top of ep 17, but is it even really clear from that description that Judy is evil?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link
I think he explicitly says it but that's iirc
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link
"negative"
― Dan I., Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link
an “extreme negative force”
I was thinking of Twin Peaks being this fictional alternate universe that is running along, a little more wholesome than our own, except for the intervention of this external force that brings negative energy
Judy is the injection of the real world into the Twin Peaks world. Judy's agent is... David Lynch, who even wrote himself into that world as a good guy
― mh, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
Judy = comments section of every website ever
― Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
^^ gets it
― mh, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link
"Talking about Judy" = making David Lynch talk about the meaning of his work and destroy mysteries.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link
i also have a dumb question -- when cole dumps the judy exposition, are we the viewer supposed to have an idea or to surmise anything in particular about how he would have been aware of cooper's plan?
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link
(possible that this question is only coming to mind with me now a week on having forgotten some glaring indicators)
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link
coworker pointed out something interesting yesterday--
Ben's assistant Beverly's last name is Paige. And she doesn't know who Laura Palmer is
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
are we the viewer supposed to have an idea or to surmise anything in particular about how he would have been aware of cooper's plan
haha I wondered about this too cuz at what point were Cooper, the Major and Cole all together to hatch this plan - some point towards the end of season 2, I guess?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link
OMG...is Carrie the final missing page?
― Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Carry page home
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link
Or after season 2, and it was Mr C plotting with an unaware Briggs and Cole
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link
I wonder how long Mr. C kept up appearances as a slick FBI agent. Like, when did he become greasy & weather-beaten?
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link
The retcon about Cooper, Briggs and Cole hatching a plan for Judy is the thing that's been grating on me the most. I don't think it was Mr. C posing as Cooper, everyone consistently figures out quickly there's something very wrong with him.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link
Better than reddit (not saying much but...):
http://ew.com/recap/twin-peaks-season-3-finale/
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link
I dreamt last night that some German channel was the first to broadcast a surprise Season 4, but it didn't involve Lynch or most of the main actors/characters; e.g. there was no Coop, though there were some returning minor characters from all three seasons. While it started out vaguely interesting if a bit generic, it went downhill fast, a bit like the weakest moments of Season 2 but even less defensible. I gave up once it turned out that the character of Diane featured in the series after all but was played by someone who wasn't Laura Dern.
We all know dreams are super important in Twin Peaks etc. etc.
― 🔱 Holger Jowday ^🌑^ (Dancing on the Pylons), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link
Just brought Windham Hell up on the neoclassical metal thread but their first album had a Twin Peaks theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jJ8VuLon4shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c7rSsnDIAs
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link
I don't think it was Mr. C posing as Cooper, everyone consistently figures out quickly there's something very wrong with him.
Very quickly = after 25 years of corruption. It's explicit in the show that he fooled people for (weeks? months? years?) before disappearing and taking up his Mr C. life.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link
I was under the impression he disappeared from TP pretty quickly, after being seen by Doc Hayward (who sensed something was wrong) at the hospital and the fire at Major Briggs' station, both of which I think happened very soon after the s2 finale.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link
I thought about this too! It's clear that Briggs was in contact with Cooper in the Lodge so they might also have formed their plan after the season 2 finale.
― strike curious poses, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link
that's actually the stuff I would love to see; obviously they can never really film it, not in a realistic style, but I really want to know what happened right after season 2. maybe mark frost is going to blather about it in this dumb book I already paid for.
― akm, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link
I kinda love when lynch has someone fire out a load of exposition, he makes sure to show his boredom with it most of the time, the reactions of the listening characters is always hilariously blank and polite and with that job done he can get on with the important imagery of the Bowie Hookah
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link
don't forget mr c traveled back in time and fooled people before laura palmer was even murdered!
― Shart Dressed Man (kurt schwitterz), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link
There's an elecrical pole outside Laura Palmers house in ep 18 which has the same numbers on it as a pole in Twin Peaks in episode 6, where Richard kills the kid, and apparently also on a pole in Fire Walk With Me. I don't think the lodge dwellers left Laura alone in the other world.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link
http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/default_attachments/1497301807-pole-6-fwwm.jpg
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link