Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Oh wow

I dreamt Trump had a cameo or two in the old Twin Peaks. Made all the "I'll see you again in 25 years" stuff even more ominous

I dreamt that ZZ Top finally got their cameo, except they were a bunch of janitors who turned out to be musicians, playing in an empty building.

the night before i had an interview last week i dreamt the interview was taking place in the black lodge, with all the confusion that suggests. our psyches are all thoroughly infected, huh

Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a frogmoth, or whether I am now a frogmoth, dreaming I am a man

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/twinpeaks/images/2/2c/Naido.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170814222034 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ_gwdRWAAA3xC2.jpg

Kind of a cross between naido and https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFyGf6gVYAAPBQs.jpg

hahhaaha I saw that spicer picture and had the exact same reaction but was too lazy to go find images for it....

Jesus

nice interview with Lynch up on p4k:

Why did Phillip Jeffries take the form of a tea kettle?

I sculpted that part of the machine that has that tea kettle spout thing, but I wish I’d just made it straight, because everybody thinks it’s a tea kettle. It’s just a machine.

Yeah, good interview. But after Lynch started talking about how awful it was to dial stuff in episode 8 back for television, I really wish they'd asked him if there were any plans to show it on the big screen.

that would be sweet. Part 8 would work fine in isolation

18 continuous hours only, no bathroom breaks allowed

taking the sole credit for sound designer when you've got at least two other guys "working their butts off" making stuff for you is kinda shitty

Yeah I don't know how it normally works but it seems like that should be a shared credit

fyi anyone who misses the TPTR vibe would do well to check out LUCKY when it arrives in your town. really beautiful final role for harry dean stanton and lynch has a great part

nice! the trailer looked great but i haven't heard from anyone who has actually seen it. can't wait.

things like sound design operate/are credited from the top down. I didn't read the interview and don't intend to. If you want to go further, assistants don't get credit in the art world (where DL lives most of his working life so...).

also, he gave opening titles credit to Badalamenti for score, for a handful of cues across 18 hours - for the first four eps, I was astounded that the score credit wasn't for Lynch. In that light, giving himself primary sound design credit looks like gracious modesty, not hogging.

They were credited with something like additional sound design, seems fine to me.

oh, i thought they were totally uncredited. nbd if that's the case.

xp did he actually compose the bulk of this music in this? i mean there's ambient sound and music that was chosen, but that's not composing.

He def composes parts of the ambient music/drones figured. If you know his album The Air Is On Fire, it's pretty obvious. He likes making dark industrial drones.

I didn't read the interview and don't intend to.

we gotta tough guy here

That conga line musical queue is truly odd

a popular analysis (even in this thread if I recall?) was Lynch was offering an elaborate comment on his own work and response to it. Which... is boring. Much more exciting to think any similarities were the result of him pouring so much of himself on screen there couldn't help but be overlap

I don't think it's overlap so much as evolution, the next step. It has a lot of recurrent images and ideas from his other work, because it's all David Lynch, but this one does things differently and has new ideas too. There's a lot of stuff in The Return that isn't like anything he's done before, because he's on the other side of Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire now and he knows how to do a lot more things than he knew when he originally did Twin Peaks. Some of it is pretty obvious commentary -- it's not like he hasn't thought about these things -- but a lot of it is just him exploring.

i would have preferred that jeffries was portrayed a bit conventionally - i dunno, an empty armchair with a blur or as a silhouetted outline of interference or something. I hate the tea kettle thing tbh, i think it's stupid even if it's not a tea kettle.

The kettle seems appropriate because those scenes are so Mad Hatter/Cheshire Cat.

it's eraserheady so i like it

It’s a tin machine.

i made that joke upthread!

Apologies

no need. great minds.

I love that it's steam, the precursor to electricity.

why in the world would anyone hate the representation of Jeffries????

I'm sad that, as per the Lynch Pitchfork interview, Bowie felt so ashamed of his Louisiana accent that it had to be revoiced.

yeah, having him be a weird steam machine holed up in a room is way more interesting (and classically Lynch) than a ghostly silhouette in a chair or w/ever.

imagine being mad about steam machine jeffries

I wanted to punch that stupid thing right in the spout.

Get a handle

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KOyXahwBUf0/UrtkLrEg28I/AAAAAAAAFyU/Em4uL4oqfMc/s1600/22+page+20.jpg

Oops, posted enthusiastically before fully reading those panels: offensive choice of words there from our man Carl Barks, another reason to prefer Erika Fuchs's brilliant German translations

Dennis Lim is on the latest Film Comment podcast talking about twin peaks, haven't listened yet

I thought this conversation between Liz Ryerson and Joel Bocki was a really nuanced and wide-ranging early response to The Return as a whole, especially around issues of gender and trauma. The first hour focuses on Twin Peaks and Lynch's work in general, the second focuses on The Return:

https://archive.org/details/beyondthefilter18theworldoftwinpeaks_joelbocko

*Joel Bocko, that is

fuuuck I really should have thought of the editing gag they did on the discourse collective episode

have a lot of trouble listening to podcasts that are just two men expressing themselves poorly

or even three men

I still don't know what you're talking about

lol sorry neither do i, was talking about the discourse collective thing

Ah got it, haven't heard that one yet - Bocko (one of the four) is usually p eloquent