but the officers didn't hear the witnesses
That's all that's going to be needed to avoid charges or get an acquittal, I suppose.
― jmm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
Okay folks, dare I say we almost have a 'light' story here on this front, almost. The third paragraph below being the key one.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/suffolk-county-da-thomas-spota-top-assistant-indicted-feds-article-1.3588145
Longtime Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota and a top assistant have been indicted by the feds on "shocking and appalling" charges that they tried covering up a disgraced police chief's brutal beating of a suspect.Brooklyn federal prosecutors unveiled the charges against the Long Island lawman Wednesday, saying he and his high-ranking lieutenant colluded on how to conceal James Burke's 2012 pummeling of a handcuffed man inside a Smithtown police precinct.The beating victim, Christopher Loeb, made the mistake of breaking into the wrong vehicle—Burke's police-issued SUV—and swiping the police big's sex toys, a porn video, a gun belt, cigars and a humidor. Burke threatened him with a "hot shot"—slang for a lethal heroin overdose.
Brooklyn federal prosecutors unveiled the charges against the Long Island lawman Wednesday, saying he and his high-ranking lieutenant colluded on how to conceal James Burke's 2012 pummeling of a handcuffed man inside a Smithtown police precinct.
The beating victim, Christopher Loeb, made the mistake of breaking into the wrong vehicle—Burke's police-issued SUV—and swiping the police big's sex toys, a porn video, a gun belt, cigars and a humidor. Burke threatened him with a "hot shot"—slang for a lethal heroin overdose.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
The Greatest Story Ever Told
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
also on the lighter side but the operation they fucked up sounds like standard corrupt asset-seizure shit.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:03 (six years ago) link
http://www.newsweek.com/detroit-cops-fight-each-other-very-embarrassing-undercover-mix-710270
― JoeStork, Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link
At least six detectives in 67 Precinct probed for planting guns; two who quit rather than justify themselves. A phantom "informant." A riot. DA quietly dropping cases because no one trusts these cops. How is this not a bigger story?! https://t.co/hlZnhkBBXe— Harry Siegel (@harrysiegel) November 28, 2017
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
that's this
Scoop: Two cops quit NYPD, as years-long saga of officers planting guns on men in East Flatbush continues… From @rparascandola @NYDailyNews https://t.co/MnjxatvA15 pic.twitter.com/MXfiAC4Nc6— Harry Siegel (@harrysiegel) November 28, 2017
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
http://abcnews.go.com/US/cop-michael-slager-faces-19-24-years-prison/story?id=51595376&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_three_posts_card_hed
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
^^^ I was not expecting this.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
I honestly wonder if his lawyers were.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
I, weirdly, feel some amount of empathy toward Slager since he put in a guilty plea to this civil charge? Like, maybe dude isn't 100% irredeemable if he can admit to the wrongness of his actions? I also was not expecting to have this reaction.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
was the guilty plea strategic due to thinking the second trial may not result in a mistrial and trying to minimize the damage? (which I guess Ned might have been getting at)?
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
he plead guilty to a civil rights violation to end the retrial, if i'm understanding correctly. punishment makes sense to me, especially after seeing that screenshot of the video again of his shooting Scott from behind.
― Nhex, Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link
Arizona Cop Acquitted for Killing Man Crawling Down Hotel Hallway While Begging for His Life
The video is unreal.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
there's a link I will never click on
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
Some of us unfortunately need the reminder of the callousness some humans are able to inhabit.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
fucking horrifying
― jmm, Friday, 8 December 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
I profoundly regret watching that.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 December 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
Fuck this victim-blaming lawyer too. Shaver's 'actions' consisted of having a pellet gun in a hotel room. In Arizona, a state where you can walk around in public with a rifle.
“The last thing in the world that Mitch Brailsford wanted to do that night was shoot. His goal wasn’t to kill Daniel Shaver,” Piccarreta told the jury. “Shaver is not a bad person, but his actions are what brought the police that night.”
― jmm, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
'if you make a mistake, i will kill you'
― j., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
there's like no tense-situation bluster or unsaid implication to that, he's literally just saying, i have an idea of everything you must do and if you don't do it all exactly the way i want i will kill you
― j., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
The cop's bloodlust was so sickening and obvious. And the inscription on his rifle? WTF???????????
And the jury saw that video and STILL let that fucking creep off.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
i don't understand how this cop wasn't convicted of murder. there is absolutely no ambiguity here.
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
People want an authoritarian state where mistakes are punished by immediate death.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
i don't get it -
There were two cops and the guy was face down, splayed out. One cop walks over and cuffs him, done. Instead it's a bunch of yelled commands about crawling and getting shot. bizarre.
― brownie, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
The officer didn't want to investigate and de-escalate a situation. He wanted to kill someone.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
There are some basic assumptions about what the police are supposed to do that are worth challenging in the face of all of these stories.
sadly, that is the only interpretation of that video that makes any sense whatsoever.
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
that he was out looking to kill
The opportunity to kill someone is part of the appeal of becoming a police officer for some.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
monstrous
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
I'd argue for any occupation that requires a weapon appeals on that level to some people. I'd also argue that's the appeal for any hobby or "sport" that requires a weapon (for some people.)
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link
It's hard for me to agree with that wrt target/clay shooting.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, December 8, 2017 1:39 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― gbx, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
it's crazy that people are still doing this shit while they are wearing body cameras
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
No, it isn't.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
xp It's not.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
They are doing *the right thing*, doing what they're trained to do, brainwashed into what to do. So just roll the tape, let everyone see. The jury agreed, what more prove do you need that this is right behaviour?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
proof even
I gather many in this thread will not need reminding but man if it's not a matter of definite life and death do *not* call the fucking cops
― Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
Think of how quickly reality show people acclimate to being constantly on camera and how they forget the cameras are there, leading to some truly ridiculous behavior. Now transfer that to someone already used to wearing communicators on their body while at work; the reminder that the recording device is there is going to fade and people will behave however they want to behave. Furthermore, the footage will be spun by the people watching it to match whatever their preconceived notions are, most of which bend heavily in the officer's favor.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
There are so many possible ways for body cams to fail on top of that, and even if they were proven to make a dent in brutality, they still can't be anywhere near the only strategy
― Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
i wasn't saying they should be the only strategy
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
i'm wondering what it would take for a national "weinstein moment" in police violence against people of color to happen. video of men and women being murdered doesn't seem to do it. On tape white teen killed among a group of black teens? it's a fucking cold country.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
It would take white celebs getting assaulted.
― Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
the "weinstein movement" already happened when it comes to liberals. but the police and the government are controlled by republicans.
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
there are still people on the left who deny that police violence is a serious issue of course but the consensus seems to be pro-police reform, pro-accountability.
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
this event won't tip things if tamir rice didn't
none of the cameras or whatever matter as long as they're trained to say 'in fear for my life' and the law is written to permit juries to let that fly
― j., Friday, 8 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
I've never understood owning more than one belt at a given time
― Simon H., Friday, December 8, 2017 2:21 PM (thirteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link