S/D: Gay movies of arty qualities

Apparently the quote(s) are 2 years old? xp

https://theplaylist.net/luca-guadagnino-xavier-dolan-20171004/

Both of them have made some very annoying films, tho LG nothing as bad as Mommy.

(I should say, the last 2 Guadagnino films, as that's all i've seen, til 6pm)

and Guadagnino hasn't made a film as good as Heartbeats.

There's no way that's possible.

but then I only feel the need to defend the good 50-60% of Laurence Anyways

I'll concede ethat no Dolan film has a scene as necessary as Matthias Schoenaerts and Tilda Swinton writhing in mud.

Heartbeats was Reality Bites with slightly better music.

Yup

The title and cast of his next movie give me the fear

Heartbeats was Reality Bites with slightly better music.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

And script. And manflesh.

I liked Mommy fine and the play adaptation I...wouldn't recommend to skeptics.

If you distrust people who make too many movies surely you shouldn't be quoting Godard? Two to three a year during his 60's prime!

Godard's career is its own special case.

is this for nu movies only? Bcz I just watched Fox and His Friends and wowwww

It certainly looked better after its Criterion restoration.

I just caught up with it a few months ago as well, and I second your "wowwww."

relentlessly cruel. reminded me of "Dancer in the Dark" and "Funny Games"

except by a great filmmaker.

Not bothering to post a link that'll get clicks, but J3ffr3y W3lls' singularly idiotic review of 120 Beats Per Minute is a thing of blunder:

As I noted last May, Robin Campillo‘s BPM (Beats Per Minute) (The Orchard, 10.20) is an impassioned, oppressively didactic period film (i.e., early ’90s) about Parisian ACT UP members battling bureaucratic indifference and/or foot-dragging in the battle against AIDS. It’s a tough, well-made, humanist thumbs-upper, but at the same time the relentless political-talking-points dialogue gradually numbs you out, and then drains you of your will to live.

At the risk of sounding insensitive or uncaring, Campillo’s hammer-focus on the French medical establishment’s slow-to-act response to the AIDS scourge is airless — it doesn’t breathe. BPM is a 144-minute gay agenda movie that says the right things, feels the right things and clobbers you over the head with its social-activist compassion and sense of life-or-death urgency. I for one staggered out of the Grand Lumiere theatre when it ended, gasping for breath and overjoyed that the lecture had finally ended.

I like my gay movies to feel swoony and speak softly — I want them to feel mellow and cultured and graced with the aroma of fine wine, fresh peaches and tall grass on a warm summer’s day. No offense but BPM is on the other side of the canyon, enraged and odorous and generally obnoxious. Thanks but no thanks.

What a story!

JW badly needs an axe to the cranium

I think the only movies I've seen from the last like decade are Weekend and Stranger by the Lake. What are 5 top-tier canonical definitive important gay movies of arty qualities from the last decade that I should watch? Is God's Own Country one of them?

yes, it is.

BPM (Beats Per Minute)
anything by Guiraudie
The Ornithologist

I'm v keen to see The Ornithologist because of how beautiful the actor is. It looks like it owes a lot to Joe though.

Blue is the Warmest Colour, From Afar, Heartstone, The Ornithologist, Carol

I'm not sure how much The Ornithologist owes to Joe, Joao Pedro Rodrigues made the kinda similar O Fantasma back in 2000.

God's Own Country is NOT very arty, it's like a '70s Ken Loach film w/ a rather sentimental (but good) gay romance added

I actually agree with Alfred's list. And it kills me.

Well, except that Weekend is still within the last 10 years and I know it's too normcore and hetero for the room but fuck off and enjoy it.

I actually agree with Alfred's list. And it kills me.

Not until every drugstore has sold its last pill.

Call Me By Your Name ain't arty either, but it's enjoyable, so watch it too, Stevie.

Loach style social realism is an arty quality.

especially set against Love, Simon.

ya I def plan to see Call Me By Your Name because it has been so polarizing among ppl whose opinions I value

ok so Eric and Alfred, I've already seen a Guiraudie so I've got BPM and The Ornithologist to watch, what are a few more of yr faves?

"Arty" as in indie: Test

"Arty" as in subtitled: Being 17

honestly i'm satisfied with "Arty" as in quality

The Duke of Burgundy
Eastern Boys
The Handmaiden
Tangerine
Bad Hair
Vic+Flo Saw a Bear
The Last Time I Saw Macao
Keep the Lights On

Vic+Flo Saw a Bear and Keep the Lights On also qualify

oh Morbs beat me lol

Second The Duke of Burgundy, for sure. Wish I'd liked Eastern Boys better.

oh yeah Tangerine!!!

Swedish film Something Must Break as well.

4 Days in France was determined to be the dullest cruising film of all time, and probably came close. Some good single-scene supporting performances, but I don't think a Mr Bean lookalike was the right lead.

S: sadie benning

― slam dunk, Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:53 PM

Went to Lincoln center last Friday night to rewatch about eight of her Pixelvision shorts, and damn, maybe 20 ppl were there. I onder if many have ever even heard of her who didn't see the stuff in the '90s.

http://www.vdb.org/artists/sadie-benning

Sat-Mon in NYC

http://metrograph.com/series/series/173/jack-smith

Worst gay films of no qualities.

Can't really agree with including A Fantastic Woman on that list - I liked it a lot.

Tom Ford's A Single Man, I'd agree isn't a good film - but there are still elements of it I really like such as the use of colour and the photography, and the scene with Julianne Moore. The main problem for me is that Colin Firth just doesn't feel right in the role.

Saw Sebastián Lelio's Disobedience yesterday, which I think is late reaching London. It's a bit slow and dragging, but did convey the claustrophobia of very tight-knit communities and a quality of surburbaness - and stays with you afterwards. The love scenes were quite nicely done, though not especially 'arty'.

From Alfred's 'good' ist, I personally can't abide either High Art or Death in Venice.

One of Moore's poorer performances, and Ford neutered the novel for the sake of sentimentality (the phone call scene, from which the film never recovers).

Before I saw it again a couple years ago DIV might've gone in the bad pile.

good thing none of us has ever seen that Rex Harrison-Dick Burton movie

For years, I'd only heard of that movie because Ebert included his review in his collection of most hated movies. Then I remember reading something a few years back where Armond White called it a landmark queer classic or something, which tells me all I need to know.

On Alfred's shit list, I've seen A Single Man, Threesome, J Edgar, Get Real, and Tea and Sympathy. I may have seen Suddenly, Last Summer at some point, or I'm just remembering scenes from it that were included in The Celluloid Closet or something. The only one I remember sort of liking is Get Real, though not enough to mount any kind of defence of it (I remember Beautiful Thing being better anyway).

Worst gay movie I've seen might be Latter Days, which trivializes homophobia and suicide for the sake of a surprise happy ending (yeah yeah spoiler yeah yeah yeah).

Suddenly Last Summer is my kinda Tennessee Williams.

only if Monty Clift had eaten me