this is irredeemable shit & you are a sucker if you like this guy
― schlump, Friday, 6 October 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link
When the movie (finally) gets to the hospital, the actors get to demonstrate their chemistry; before then, though, Baumbach's beats are off, with lots of expository dialogue clumsily delivered.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 October 2017 11:31 (six years ago) link
Sandler is the least objectionable element.
Yikes
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 15 October 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link
yea this was predictably disappointing, tho I do like & defend baumbach generally
― johnny crunch, Monday, 16 October 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link
I know they've made a couple movies together, but Emma Thompson and Dustin Hoffman have no chemistry.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 October 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link
It's flawed and easy to make fun of but I really enjoyed watching this. The lunch scene w/Ben Stiller and Dustin Hoffman was great.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link
It felt like 'cool daughter' wish fulfillment though.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
The lunch scene w/Ben Stiller and Dustin Hoffman was great.
the bit of business involving the wine and the next table over
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
loved this
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 23 October 2017 09:22 (six years ago) link
it puts together elements from all his other films, i think its really layered & moving & complete
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 23 October 2017 09:23 (six years ago) link
haven't seen it in years but i didn't know people hated punch drunk love
― flopson, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
hoffman was on Charlie rose w/ sandler & baumbach & complemented sandler's acting in PDL & said something like it was a great portrayal of someone w bipolar disorder
― johnny crunch, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
I haven't seen PDL since it was in theaters and I remember liking it, but coolly.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 23 October 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
yeah my memory is similar, that i was like, yeah, that was good, but not feeling especially strongly about it
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 23 October 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
This is great though. I feel like it ties together margot at the wedding, squid & the whale, while we're young, just a lot of thematic stuff he's worked w/ before just in a more completely rendered package
im not a big frances ha guy though
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 23 October 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link
It's okay, I liked Sandler, who I'll take over Stiller any day. Elizabeth Marvel's performance as Jean is the best thing about the film. I haven't seen a film of his since The Squid and Whale, which I hated.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link
I just realized he stole the ending of this from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link
I Love the squid & the whale but maybe overidentify w it as a product of divorce
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link
Xp Came to mind too, but probably only because the Raiders ending (and its connection to Citizen Kane) was like just discussed on ILX.Thought this was nice and frequently pretty funny. Not sure how I’d rank his stuff, but I guess this would be somewhere in the middle for me.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link
Baumbach's derivative take on the Royal Tenenbaums, with Ben Stiller playing the exact same character. Still I kinda liked it
― it me, Saturday, 28 October 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
this is way more like his own other films than it is RT
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 29 October 2017 01:18 (six years ago) link
i've been on a roll of agreeing with deej on matters of tv and film but this was a massive THUMBS DOWN
― flopson, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link
i'm not sure I've ever seen a movie that digs into half-sibling issues as much as this one did. As a half-sibling myself that aspect of the movie gave me a lot to think about.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 05:05 (six years ago) link
does flopson like 'margot at the wedding'? curious
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 05:25 (six years ago) link
haven't seen
― flopson, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 05:27 (six years ago) link
i want to know what you think
what didn't you like about this?
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
i'm going to watch all baumbachlats i haven't seen (i think its most of them) and give a full rundown soon
found the dialogue clunky as hell, most of the comedy fell flat (i LOLd at the scene where they watch his daughter's video) (the arrogance of casting stiller and sandler in Serious Roles and then having dustin hoffman and emma thompson botch it as comic relief put me off), didn't felt i loved any of the characters
― flopson, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link
yeah see margot at the wedding. i think you're looking for this to be a comedy in a more purposeful way than what its actually going for
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 00:30 (six years ago) link
i don't think i've ever seen a less convincing drunk than Emma Thompson in this
― flopson, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link
I found the movie unconvincing, period, despite a couple of acerbic moments.
But it's fine -- Baumbach will return.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 00:39 (six years ago) link
Didn't like this much at all. First time I've felt like Baumbach was making a bad Noel Baumbach-type film; that's probably been there since The Squid and the Whale (still far and away my favourite), but I thought he was always able to keep that under control. I liked Grace Van Patten, and Sandler's sort of interesting (even though the bursts of rage are right out of Punch-Drunk Love). Couldn't stand Hoffman (Kael's "humping one note on a piano for two hours" comes to mind), and Ben Stiller scowling and being nasty felt overly familiar--was he a comedian at one time? Van Patten's first film was funny...or at least the image of dad and aunt and grandfather watching it.
― clemenza, Thursday, 16 November 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
That Kael quote is from her Rain Man review. It occurs to me that Hoffman bothered me so much because he really is playing Meyerowitz as Raymond Babbitt. Which, in view of the fact that Meyerowitz is supposed to be a somewhat renowned sculptor (unappreciated or otherwise), and that he considers his wife to be his intellectual inferior, is a really strange decision on Hoffman's part.
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 November 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link
the blood pressure is getting read in india part in the hospital was off the money. As someone who has worked in health care for many years, this comment makes no sense. Liked this though for the most part
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 20 November 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link
This is on netflix streaming for some reason. I resisted.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 November 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
That’s how it was released. It’s good, imo
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 20 November 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link
it was financed by Netflix
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 20 November 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
can't bring myself to care about it
― akm, Monday, 20 November 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link
Despite a few bumps, this strikes me as the best of the 7 NB-directed films I've seen, nosing out Frances Ha and The Squid and the Whale (Dad Was a Prick, Part I). Sandler is excellent and actually moved me to tears, though I now expect to go back to ignoring his career.
This struck me throughout as a (generally) comic version of one of Arthur Miller's prime family tragedies, before I realized that was Miller's daughter playing the woman Sandler is pining for. (And the only Willy Loman I've seen on the stage is Hoffman.)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 November 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link
sorry about all the striking, I should read my posts more often
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 November 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link
I needed a bump to finish it.`
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
casting Sandler AND Hirsch w/out driving me out of the theater is a miraculous achievement
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 November 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link
pretty much agree with how you feel about this morbs with the exception of it being his best
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 27 November 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link
you know what kind of family you're in when the first meal scene is shark
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Baumbach did a Q&A at MoMA yesterday, said he had a laughing fit the day he was describing the student film to the actors as their reactions were being shot.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
showing in 35mm near me for a couple of weeks, might go
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
yeah, wow – this was leaden even by the standards of the guy who made While We're Young. Then again, Frances Ha is only half Baumbach's movie.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
Judd Hirsch was one of the things that drove me up the wall here. It'd take me a while to find the right words, but there's just something so cliched about the way he plays his character.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
imo up there w his best, which is for me mistress america & margot at the wedding & squid (not as into greenberg or frances ha, although they're both good and fine, though those seem like his most commercially successful)
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 27 November 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
i had to tap out at the precious twee piano song
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 27 November 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
I thought people didn't go to movie theaters anymore
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link
Everyone who's not an accredited blogger.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
I'm a little surprised Netflix bothered with theater distro
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
they're in the business now, dude. Prestige, so it's not just another fucking TV thing for normies.
distributing the imminent Woody Allen film, then a dozen next year.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link
no sorry, the Woody is Amazon....
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link
https://qz.com/1104262/netflix-will-release-more-movies-next-year-than-disney-and-other-studios-combined/
it was financed by NetflixNo, it was independently financed; Netflix bought distribution rights after the fact. One suspects that Baumbach made theatrical release a condition of sale.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 30 November 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link
basically, Shakey Fuck Off Part CCLXVII
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 November 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
Um what did i do now idgi
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link
Given that Baumbach won a bunch of awards/plaudits (incl an Oscar nomination) for Squid and the Whale, which this film most closely resembles, why the hell would he settle for a streaming release?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000876/awards
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 November 2017 06:09 (six years ago) link
btw he will be presenting a 35mm print of Meyerowitz in NY this weekend, and also this all-time great
http://metrograph.com/film/film/264/letter-from-an-unknown-woman
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 November 2017 06:38 (six years ago) link
Way into this. What an ensemble. Seems like a MoMA audience ^^ would be the ideal crowd to see this with.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 8 January 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link
guess I should watch this. interesting how his star has been eclipsed by Gerwig now.
― akm, Monday, 8 January 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link
A few years ago, this probably would have been the Oscar contender and Lady Bird would've been on HBO.
Lady Bird is fresher, though. Whereas here -- if you want to see New Yorkers trying to find parking spots, Squid and the Whale 2, this delivers.
Also am a sucker for movies/etc about the change in status symbols in NYC culture: this, Oh, Hello in its own way, While We're Young (more stacks VHS tapes, as here), and so on.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 8 January 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, October 31, 2017 1:25 AM (seven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya this one is his best imo
― flopson, Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:43 (five years ago) link
Seeing this a second time, I just love the structure of the whole thing, how it takes so long to get all the siblings in the same room.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link