The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

I found this worth my time, but only just. I never felt it was in love with itself, which is a criticism I've seen more than once. Tries valiantly to capture and sustain the mood of the original, and comes closer than you'd expect. Ultimately the narrative doesn't satisfy, but you've seen a bunch of really cool stuff, so.

Script is not awful. Leto however, is. Not only viscerally unpleasant to have to watch (part of which is on purpose,as he is the villain) but the acting is horrendous. (The only instance of bad acting in the film imo). When he takes the screen its as if Leto has crashed your house party -- your brain scrambles to remedy the situation. I chose a restroom break for his second big scene towards the end, which a minute in had already stalled the film's momentum almost completely.

It's way too long. Sometimes thrilling, often "meditative", overall admirable.

Leto is like every method actor I ever worked with when I did theatre. it was obv he was giving a performance

he's like the dude that practices free throws for 4 hours and still shoots 56% from the line

(not to say I don't like him in general but after his Joker run it's fun to laugh at him)

Saw this yesterday afternoon.. Look great, though weirdly underpopulated. But incredibly boring, like an endless montage of soft pr0n and computer game cut scenes.

Saw this late last night (3D). I kinda liked the disregard for the original - this was a mere taking away of the pulp plot...which leaves you with a weird jumble of other SF films - anything from Solaris/Her (the r/ship with the hologram), to the memory creator (actually the most PKD-ish thing in here), to the matrix (setting up the inevitable sequel I will never watch). Harrison Ford really looked like shit (to the extent that I think he just looks like that everyday these days), i.e. great.

I didn't like the look of it in comparison to my memories of the original - kind of want to watch it again now to check.

The 'look' of this one deliberately differs from BR? 30 years on, planet's gone more downhill. (I read one review that went on about sea levels having risen, but I didn't actually notice that.) Whatever, it all looked stunning, especially the opening scenes and the garbage dump scene.

I didn't find this boring but it definitely dragged in places - with some cuts, this would have been great.

Minor quibble: wish the guns had resembled Deckard's blaster in the original more.

On Pale Fire, seems like it could be something to do with the Brian Boyd reading where (iirc), the spirit of the Hazel Shade (the dead daughter of the poet John Shade) is inhabiting Kinbote and authoring/inspiring the commentary. So Dr Stelline is Hazel, informing the deluded actions of Joe/Kinbote with her memories, as he investigates the original work of Ford/Deckard. I don't think that really works, but it could be intended.

I found this pretty, but a bit boring.

xp the gun Deckard uses in this one is a recreation of the original prop, I think? And K uses Deckard’s gun for the last section of the film.

There’s a YouTube video of prop nerd Adam Savage talking with a guy from the props team for this movie, if you’re interested. Not linking because we don’t need it embedded and geeking out over gun designs seems pretty wrong this week.

not to spoil who says this if it was said, but did i imagine the line, "YO YO YO, I'M THE BEST ROBOT!" shouted Duke of New York style?
also, it was odd how obtrusively the sony placement stuck out in a movie where there's a half-minute glamour pass of the atari logo.

Diageo too....lol that PanAm got phased out

Atari may still exist but is no longer a commercial threat to Sony fyi

I watched this last night. I liked the storyline but the audiovisual part didn't really do it for me. Like, in the Ridley Scott original everything was so beautifully done. The use of light was incredible, the costumes so out there, the music... They all worked together perfectly. Most of the settings here just looked expensive but uninspired. A few scenes hit the mark but overall it was a miss for me. I wonder how this would have looked in the hands of Nicolas Winding Refn or someone more visually oriented then Villeneuve.

huh, I guess like the original this one is bombing, too.

Daavid- I agree. If Refn sees The Incal through then that might be very close because it has a Blade Runner connection.

Interesting that the box office prediction was so off. I'm curious how many people in their teens and twenties have ever seen the original.

very weird tv spot for blade runner 2049 pic.twitter.com/DvZpLNYyAQ

— demi adejuyigbe (@electrolemon) October 8, 2017

demi strikes again

Man what do I have to do to see a non-Marvel sci-fi movie in the theater this year before its utter bombness takes it away

Also how did I miss that The Incal is being made into a movie?!?

It's a strong possibility but I don't think it's actually happening.

Not sure Refn could secure that kind of money.

you've got to figure timing time affects box office, too. at the very least I was not able to see it this weekend because I couldn't find the time.

Wouldn't be surprised if this Blade Runner is the last unconventional big expensive sci-fi film America makes for a long time.

86% was over 25 showing that young adults were not excited enough for this old property to show up in large numbers.

there's your problem

I say "unconventional" in a very low bar kind of way.

I had some errands to run so I took a Friday off work and went to the movie at 11am after dropping my car off to have new tires installed

Literally every other person in the theater (which, to be fair, was sparse at 11am on a friday) was a white man in his 30s/40s

I saw a fair amount of couples.

didn't the same guy literally just make Arrival, which was a hit?

Kind of don't even want to see the new one, I don't want my dope OG BR perspective expanded upon.

I was at the third showing of the day yesterday and there were seven people in the theater's biggest room.

Oh yeah, Annihilation is coming out too.

A replicant would pirate this shit

Villeneuve's also doing Dune. Hopefully that will be unconventional.

What's his long game anyway? BR2049 I can understand, but why a Dune reboot? Why not let Lynch' great flawed version and Jodorowsky's rest in peace?

(*Jodorowski's failed attempt)

and the syfy channel's series, and...

dune is going to keep being remade because -- and full disclosure, I never read past the first book -- it's a science fiction epic with the same scope as Tolkien's works, but hasn't had a popular adaptation that's definitive

we could have dealt with a world where the bakshi animation was the only hobbit we needed tbh

didn't the same guy literally just make Arrival, which was a hit?

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, October 8, 2017

failing to follow the logic here. but fwiw this was much more enjoyable than Arrival.

It was in response to RAG suggesting this might be the last unconventional American sci Fi film in some time. I meant that call seemed premature, given Arrival, by the same guy, was just a hit, so don't write off sci Fi yet (whether or not one liked either).

It would be nice for someone to make a better movie of Dune, but I can't figure out why Neuromancer hasn't been made yet. That would be something that could be a bigger deal done right than a sequel to Blade Runner or doing Dune for the third time.

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I have bad news

Deadpool director Tim Miller's busy schedule is getting a little busier.

Miller will direct an adaptation of the 1984 sci-fi novel Neuromancer for Fox, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed. Longtime X-Men producer Simon Kinberg will produce the film. A writer has not yet been set.

Miller made his directorial debut last year with Fox's Deadpool, which became an unexpected smash. He exited the sequel in October over creative differences, but has a number of other projects in the works, including an adaptation of the Daniel Suarez sci-fi novel Influx for Fox and an animated/live-action adaptation of the classic videogame character Sonic the Hedgehog for Sony.

although he's now directing the new Terminator movie so maybe this is no longer happening

it would be cool if one thing from my childhood wasn't ruined by the time i died

re: neuromancer

Neuromancer seems pretty simple, screen Johnny Mnemonic for the director and say "don't do this, any of this".

how dare u

It's like the Showgirls of sci-fi movies

if only that were true!!

Lol Showgirls is an actual masterpiece compared to Blade Runner