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― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 13 October 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link
The thread of threads.
Anyway, trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNsiQMeSvMk
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 October 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link
this looks insanely boring
― Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
So apparently DDL is not a gay dude in this
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
PTA does M/I.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
― Simon H., Monday, October 23, 2017 7:57 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
interest piqued
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
this does not appeal
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
well I live in hope that it's not actually about fashion, the most boring topic on earth.
Like one of those Saint Laurent films.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
My gf has been super into sewing and making clothes lately, so I'm excited for beautifully-shot sewing action scenes on her behalf.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link
looks good to me ... is this the first PTA movie to have nothing to do with California?
― tylerw, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link
I'm sure this will be good, because PTA usually delivers the goods, but for all you folks who complained how boring the new Blade Runner is, man, it was a relative struggle for me to make it through this 2-minute trailer.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link
I'll watch DDL be boring anytime, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
Y'all are nuts this looks great
― .oO (silby), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
I liked The Dressmaker (2015)! Although that combined costume porn with Western tropes.
Previous word on this film suggests that Phantom Thread's story is based on the life of Charles James (1906-1978).
― Virulent Is the Word for Julia (j.lu), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
Hard Eight?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
oh right!
― tylerw, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
I'll probably watch this, but yeah, it looks pretty dull
― Moodles, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
There Will Be Blood is all Texas, isn't it?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link
Southern California
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
Looks insanely boring & I fear he shot without a complete script again
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
why do you all say "boring" like it's a bad thing?
― .oO (silby), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
i only hold films in high esteem if i nod off during them
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
There Will Be Blood has aged pretty poorly (mostly because the last 10 minutes have been parodied and referenced so much - a shame because the ending was so powerful when I first saw it), but The Master has aged really well... I saw that one by myself opening night & then the next day with a bunch of friends and we were all left scratching our heads... haven't seen it since, but it's bloomed in my mind in a way that TWBB hasn't, quite the opposite... maybe the difference between DDL & PSH...
the cardinal sin in movies is being boring, i don't understand the question
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
yeah i watched Louis XIV die in bed for 2 hours last night
xp
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
flappy, have you dodged the entire Slow Cinema trend?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
what are some examples
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
First person that came to mind when I read "slow cinema" was Kelly Reichardt, who's one of my favorite working directors. Certain Women is slow but it's anything but boring.
yeah slow =/= boring. "PTA fashion movie" is my idea of hell if that's really what this is
― Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
you can def nap to the work of apichatpong weerasethakul, one of my favorite directors
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
Guessing it was made with self-awareness of The Age of Innocence and Gosford Park as context, wild energetic American filmmakers telling a story in a restrained and refined world.
― Eazy, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
wild energetic
this is not a fitting descriptor for PTA imo.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
I mean, anxiety is also a form of energy I guess
― Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
I keep hearing that the Paul Thomas Anderson/Daniel Day-Lewis movie is sort of an art-house FIFTY SHADES OF GREY...— Kyle Buchanan (@kylebuchanan) August 7, 2017
This tweet (coupled with some hints in the trailer) suggest that this movie is not primarily about fashion
― Number None, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
Oh hell yeah
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
Unfortunately, 'art house 50 Shades of Grey' sounds like a movie full of the scenes where he's asking her why isn't she eating and then making her eat.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 October 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
That does look decidedly boring
He should play WB Yeats soon
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 23 October 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
don't you remember he retired? (lol)
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
unless he has some sort of second coming...
― Number None, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
There's totally going to be a scene where he sews a dildo into one of those secret pockets
― Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link
The strange thing is that in real life Daniel Day-Lewis is actually a cobbler and his specialty is embedding dildoes in the soles of his shoes. It's kind of ridiculous when you think about it, this presumption that knowing one thing could actually translate into a meaningful ability to represent the other thing. Hardly method acting, if you ask me.
― Moodles, Monday, 23 October 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
daniel dild-shoeis morelike amirite
― clammy marinara (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 October 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link
I regret this.
― Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link
hahahaha
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
This looks great, not boring at all. The photography looks absolutely beautiful. Very excited to see it.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link
This looks great.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link
Is that Julia Davis playing the "rival" at the dinner table 1:15 in? She's not on the cast list.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link
I won't watch the trailer (I don't really watch them) but PTA, whom I don't like much, made Inherent Vice and The Master back to back, both of which tickled me.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link
i'd like to know what you think of the aesthetic fwiw, and it doesn't give much away. in fact it does the opposite. such a shock to see PTA shoot grey skies, rainy cobbled streets and wild green coastlines.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 03:54 (six years ago) link
DDL looks magnificent. 60 years of age!
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link
I can't stop watching this trailer. I hope that this will be one of my favourite films of all time. I know it's stupid to hope that.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link
Alfred I got this new book but haven’t started it yet, looks good though https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-process-genre
― silby, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
Sorry, I've made this point a million times, but whenever I see talk of PTA's or Spielberg's or Scorsese's rich mature period, to me it's like Sarris propping up Seven Women or The Countess of Hong Kong along similar lines in The American Cinema. Loving these late films is fine, I just take issue with the implication that Boogie Nights or Jaws or Mean Streets are, I guess, less rich and immature films. They're the Sex Pistols. I'm glad the Sex Pistols never hung around for their rich mature period. (Ignore reunions and other projects.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link
i mean i've got magnolia way up in the rankings so it's not like i'm dissing his earlier work. they're still of markedly different calibers though, and it makes him a more interesting artist to have both periods
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link
pta's division down the center of his filmography is also a way clearer narrative than trying to define a rich mature period for either spielberg or scorsese, for me at least. and even then that's simplifying things too much, phantom thread is totally in conversation with punch-drunk love
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link
I like the "in conversation" idea.
Don't mind me, I'm just a stubborn defender of those guys' earlier films.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link
Adam Sandler is The Hungry Boy
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link
inherent vice > phantom thread > there will be blood = magnolia = the master > punch-drunk love > boogie nights
No Hard Eight?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
i haven't seen it yet!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
oh man -- can't wait
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
Magnolia is my least fave by now, I agree w/ PTA that it should be cut way down.
― brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
it was my favorite movie of all time when i was in high school/college and i rewatched it last week and its effect has not diminished, i have no objectivity about it. it is just this cascade of scenes and dialogue and performances i love building up to catharsis. though this time i noticed how the deletion of the worm plotline essentially makes some characters fully disappear from the plot (stanley)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
(deleting an entire plotline is still one of the smartest choices pta made with that film)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link
I saw Magnolia last year for the first time and while it didn’t land the way it would’ve if I were in high school there’s some stuff in it that really landed for me. Much of it to do with Tom Cruise’s hollow-eyed performance.
― silby, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
Still his best movie.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 January 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link
Well yeah. Also a much better version of The Power of the Dog imo.
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Sunday, 16 January 2022 22:38 (two years ago) link
I've never watched a film in which a director's absolute mystery of visual and sound design and cinematography had me vacillating in sympathy from one character to the other.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 January 2022 22:39 (two years ago) link
lol mastery
It’s interesting to me that altho I have adored PTA’s work since Boogie Nights, nearly all his films have felt incomplete to me. BN and Phantom Thread probably the most complete. But there’s always something unresolved or not quite tucked in. Don’t know if it’s a flaw or a signature.
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 16 January 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link
something unresolved or not quite tucked in
I think he senses it too, which is why his endings can seem like he's wrenching to put all his meanings in order.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 16 January 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link
he removed an entire story thread from magnolia, he’s def got the impulse
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 17 January 2022 00:37 (two years ago) link
i don’t agree with the sentiment about his endings tho. did the ending of the master give you the feeling he was trying to put all his meanings in order? far from it imo
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 17 January 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/26DN5ayYLdN6bK62I/giphy.gif
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 January 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link
Yes, I think The Master is his most successful film with, no coincidence, his most successful ending.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 17 January 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link
haha fair! but i love the way inherent vice and phantom thread end too, and neither of them feel like a late massing of the film's themes
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 17 January 2022 03:14 (two years ago) link
I'm shocked a picture as dialectically subtle sprung from the mind of an American writer-director.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 January 2022 03:16 (two years ago) link
John Simon is cheering that post; I am not.
― clemenza, Monday, 17 January 2022 03:17 (two years ago) link
what -- mine?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 January 2022 03:25 (two years ago) link
Simon wouldn't write a thing without a passing gibe at a person's looks, using strained alliteration, or lamenting how even good American movies fall short of a European tradition he's got lodged in his head, which means he's like me.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 January 2022 03:27 (two years ago) link
as an aside my ranking upthread is not correct but i had only seen the master once at the time
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 17 January 2022 03:28 (two years ago) link
Yes; subtlety in American films is hardly rare (maybe dialectically subtle is a distinction I'm missing). Funny you say "from the mind of," though, because Phantom Thread to me very much belongs to the From the Mind Of genre, where you get some portentous voice announcing "From the mind of _________" (Paul Thomas Anderson, Wes Anderson, etc.--David Lynch and Stanley Kubrick in a previous lifetime) in the trailer.
― clemenza, Monday, 17 January 2022 03:29 (two years ago) link
I mean, it's also a movie about closeups of Welsh rarebit, martinis with a twist, and mushrooms in butter.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 January 2022 03:43 (two years ago) link
now that I think about it Boogie Nights ended with something not quite tucked in
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 17 January 2022 05:29 (two years ago) link
Inherent Vice works because it's somewhat built in that putting everything neatly away by the time it ends was not ever really on the table
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 17 January 2022 10:33 (two years ago) link
rewatched this before christmas, best film hollywood has produced since john ford died
― devvvine, Monday, 17 January 2022 11:31 (two years ago) link
(xxpost) I started to defend Boogie Nights' ending...then I got the joke--nice!
― clemenza, Monday, 17 January 2022 13:57 (two years ago) link
xp hey now devvv, I'm with KJB that A.I. is that movie
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 17 January 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link
― A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 17 January 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link
No American film in the last few years makes me more uncomfortable. Letting someone "in your life" is a risk: you look like a manipulative Hitchcock-esque svengali like Woodcock, and that's the benefit of telling the story through Alma's POV; but I'm also annoyed that she won't respect his boundaries, especially since she lives in his house. Scraping the toast, throwing a surprise party for him -- it's clear he's on the spectrum when we see his reactions to them, and I cheer her hilarious, sadistic, cheerfully willful attempts to break him...but why shouldn't he expect (at his age!) to go on drinking his tea at a certain hour and not be disturbed? He's so hateful, and she's so right, and yet.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link
That scene in the rural inn where he patiently, meticulously, smilingly requests a traditional breakfast, and PTA cuts to Krieps' hungry expression (she's thinking, "OMIGOD he gets it!") is just perfect.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:50 (one year ago) link
i don't have a fully formed thought on it, but thinking through the relationship dynamics in this and licorice pizza is really interesting bc there are some things that are strikingly similar and some things that are very much not
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:52 (one year ago) link
Also: he's the worst gaslighter in movies since Charles Boyer.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link
I didn't like anybody onscreen, which is fine because I dislike 98 percent of the people I watch or read about. But the film is sharp about the delusions of men who experiment with the feelings of women but expect solitude to work on their art.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:57 PM
still stand by this
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link
Didn’t Morbs say this movie was about “a closet case with a poisoning fetish”? I think about that phrase a lot.
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 20 April 2023 01:33 (one year ago) link
alfred otm
― k3vin k., Thursday, 20 April 2023 02:07 (one year ago) link
I just love this movie so much
― k3vin k., Monday, 19 June 2023 14:42 (eleven months ago) link
his best movie
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 June 2023 14:54 (eleven months ago) link
incredible
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 19 June 2023 15:44 (eleven months ago) link
Saw it for the first time on New Year's Day, 10/10 masterpiece
― bain4z, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:52 (eleven months ago) link