same for the Day After.
xp
― Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
As I've said on another thread, I see sci-fi as more of window dressing for a variety of generic story structures than a genre in itself (in movies at least, literature is a different matter) - Blade Runner = detective movie, Aliens = war film, etc. Few SF movies actually give that much of a shit about conceptual matters. So, yeah, to all intents and purposes if it's got aliens and robots and what have you, it's SF as far as I'm concerned.
― chap, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link
ok, where's the 'science' in Road Warrior aside from the world having been nuked? It's just a great biker movie.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link
fuck it, i'm voting for enemy mine
― gff, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
* Isolation * Pepsi * Identifying With The Enemy * Based On Novella * Alien * Intolerance * Futuristic * Racism * Slavery * Tolerance * Bonding * Space * Friendship * Survival * Eaten Alive * Monster * Uncle Nephew Relationship * Fighter Pilot * Football * Meteor * Mining * Narrated * Planet * Pregnancy * Reptilian * Scavenger * Severed Ear * Snow * Space Station * Spaceship * Stranded * Alien Baby * Alien Slave * Male Pregnancy * Shot In The Neck * Multiple Monsters
I'm voting for The Dead Zone, for the movie itself and for the sketch on SNL where Christopher Walken reprises that role, playing the new guy at the office who shakes your hand and foretells your future -"You're going to get in the elevator at 11:45, go downstairs to the deli and come back with a paper bag holding a tuna salad sandwich and a blueberry yogurt."
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Blade Runner = detective movie, Aliens = war film
nonononononononononononono
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Stanislaw Lem wrote a article (or a book) complaining about that phenomenon.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
an article
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link
what I wd call a "hard" sci-fi film is Andromeda Strain (diff decade)
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Alien = a nightmare that womanly affection and womanly reproduction have become separated, resulting in ruthless and uncontrollable proliferation
Aliens = the same, except with a sledgehammer rather than an icepick
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
(that first line is cribbed from Noah Berlatsky's "fecund horror" essay, which is brilliant and which everyone should read)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Andromeda Strain is suspense. All the "science" in it is bogus; the screenwriter made it up.
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
as screenwriters are apt to do! (Geo Lucas too)
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
All the "science" in it is bogus; the screenwriter made it up.
haha, 99% of sci fi to thread.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Robots = scifi Spaceships = scifi
So genre all comes down to servants and rides
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
people get excited for the remake of Last Starfighter coming in 2010!
― mizzell, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior) (1981) Tron (1982) Videodrome (1982) The Thing (1982) Blade Runner (1982) Repo Man (1984) The Terminator (1984) Dune (1984) The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension (1984) Aliens (1986) Predator (1987) Akira (1987) They Live (1988)
^^ here's the short list
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Some variant of Sturgeon's Law.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
the science of "the black destroyer" or "the great engine" by a.e. van vogt is completely made up and completely awesome
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
i would say that Tron actually counts as sci-fi
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Videodrome and Dune also
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
is allegory science?
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link
isn't all sci-fi allegory?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I think we should explore the genre = service and transportation idea further
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't think there's much to that idea
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
transportation = easy way of establishing setting?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Vincent Schiavelli, RIP.
Holy crap, I did not know this. : (
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
that fecund horror essay is good but not recommended lunchtime reading.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't wait until the 90s poll. Johnny Mnemonic ftw.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
repo man = dune = bttf
― remy bean, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm going with repo man
― remy bean, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link
This is going to be a battle of the sympathy votes
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
ha. 90's is going to be like demolition man vs star trek vi vs twelve monkeys.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Matrix 2: A Rave in Space
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
also didn't abyss come out 1990?
― remy bean, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
servant: live-in girlfriend ride: shitty car
genre - Apatow
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
there should a johnny mnemonic vs stargate subpoll, though.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link
imdb says aug. '89.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Repo Man wins any poll, every time.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link
it's probablly the most sci-fi offering up there
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I find it kinda neorealist
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link
same difference?
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link
RO BO COP
― David R., Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link
there are a few of these I haven't seen, but I've got to do this in stages, picking from this list:
Altered States, The Quatermass Conclusion, The Road Warrior, Escape from New York, Tron, Videodrome, The Thing, Blade Runner, Brainstorm, The Dead Zone, Liquid Sky, The Terminator, Dune, Buckaroo Banzai, Lifeforce, The Quiet Earth, Brazil, Enemy Mine, Aliens, The Fly, Predator, Robocop, They Live, The Blob
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link
stuff can be scifi AND something else, you autistics
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
saw the complete mini-series version of quatermass conclusion for the first time a few months ago, and it's worth seeing the whole thing
And the sun turns to vomit
'Brainstorm' seemed way too sentimental the first time I saw it in the same way that 'Silent Running' just often seems ridiculous, but with hindsight, this film has some brutally fucked up scenes it and the overall sentiment really is kind of ambitious and beautiful
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Silent Running is not at all ridiculous!
(and s1ocki OTM)
― Ste, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
the only true sci fi film ever made was Walter Mitty you fule
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
a draw between The Fly and KHAAAAAAHHHHHNN!!. I won't count E.T. and The Terminator.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link