New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

The upgrade plan is great if you get a new phone every year anyway and don’t want to deal with selling your old one.

I’d orobably do the upgrade plan if it were available in Australia, not so lucky. The best you can do is 12 months interest free and then you have to sell the phone when it’s time to upgrade, Apple will give me $255 for my 6plus which seems pretty paltry when their asking $2000+ once you factor in phone, case and apple care.

average life on last two macs has been 7 years. average life on an iphone 3-4?

Not sure AppleCare on this thing makes sense.

In my experience, Apple will replace almost anything in the 1st year for any reason. After that, even if you have to pay the screen fix out of warranty it's $40 more than apple pay + deductible. I guess it makes sense if you drive over things with trucks a lot? Worst case, I'd just get a refurbished 7 or something.

You are probably right. I have managed to go 3 years with the 6 plus and not break the screen and for other things we get a 2 year warranty in Oz.

I've broken one screen out of all my phones and it was about two months in. Dropped it face down on a rock! Never had a chance.

never buy warranties imo

I broke the screen of my phone at a bachelor party several years ago; since then, I've broken another phone screen and two iPad screens. It's like the dam burst and now these things shatter on me at the drop of a hat (or a phone or iPad). Having small children in the house doesn't help; one of them poured water into my laptop this week.

Yep, small kids are screen smasher extraordinaire.

I could blame the first screen smash on a salmon-flavored vodka hangover; the subsequent ones are all child-related.

total cost of ownership is lower if you just buy the things outright.

by all means pay the higher price of leasing so you don't have to deal with selling your old phone, and you get insurance bundled if that works for you.

but fwiw: if you're a regular phone breaker/loser, you can get cheaper insurance by buying it from an insurance company than you get bundled into the price of a lease from verizon or whoever.

generally though, insure events you couldn't afford to cover (health, life, etc. not your phone). insurance is a profitable business because insurance costs more than the odds of needing it imply.

I could blame the first screen smash on a salmon-flavored vodka hangover;

Did you smash the screen with your vomit??

total cost of ownership is lower if you just buy the things outright.

Even on the zero-interest installment plan?

yes on the apple one (since apple bundles in cost of applecare) - may not be as true for the carrier ones (i.e. i think ATT Next does not have that bundled in) but not sure what additional fees ATT etc. may try to sell you

leasing is appealing in that it's like you're guaranteed half the MSRP + the pro rated applecare when you upgrade and trade it in. idk i still buy my phones outright.

Did you smash the screen with your vomit??

Ha I wish it was that interesting a story; I blearily put my phone on a windowsill after plugging it in and it promptly slid off and landed face down on a concrete floor, splintering the screen all to be damned.

salmon flavored vodka? like the fish?

http://www.drinkmemag.com/smoked-salmon-flavored-vodka-from-alaska-distillery/

The bachelor party (of former ILXor Fluffy Bear/Austerity Ponies) had one condition; bring the most absurd/disgusting alcohol you could find. This was my contribution.

possibly relevant:
John Justen and Fluffy Bear Will Drink It

Dear lord.

haha I should have known there'd be documented evidence of that on ILX somewhere

Even on the zero-interest installment plan?

― Spencer Chow, Friday, October 27, 2017 3:03 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fair. if you don't mind the paperwork and trust yourself to make the payments and our credit score is good (and won't be made worse by the lease) then buying the same thing with interest free payments is free money.

but a phone lease is not the same thing. it bakes in the cost of an upgrade and insurance and extra profit for more than one third party.

I would get installments without AppleCare which is a (somewhat hidden) option.

average life on last two macs has been 7 years. average life on an iphone 3-4?

― ||||||||, Saturday, 28 October 2017 05:00 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

macs aren't advancing all that quickly compared to phones though. the mbp i got in 2010 is absolutely fine (i'm using it right now), but the iphone 4 from the same year struggles to run ios 7 from 2013.

not that i'm saying an x will definitely run ios 18, but phone power has to plateau at some point.

and/or apple should stop bloating up iOS

the high end iPads being as powerful as the lower end macbooks, moreso in some ways, is kind of a mindfuck

I'll be interested in Macs again when they finally stick an Apple-designed chip in one

and/or apple should stop bloating up iOS

― 龜, Saturday, 28 October 2017 08:10 (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, i suppose my point is (a) if phone tech slows down like mac tech has, the bloating potential of ios 15 on an iphone xiii (or whatever their naming convention is now) would be limited, so (b) they might be forced to stop bloating ios the way they've already stopped bloating osx

or (c)

I'll be interested in Macs again when they finally stick an Apple-designed chip in one

― .oO (silby), Saturday, 28 October 2017 08:37 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, this is probably where we'll be by 2020, apple saying "fuck this abrogation of moore's law, we'll do it ourselves"

i have one on the way but am still skeptical about face ID. youtube reviews are out and everything about it makes it seem slower/less convenient than touchID

Still horrified how slow/bad Siri is, don't trust in FaceID

Touch ID gets faster the more you use it as it learns more of your fingerprint. I’d imagine face ID will as well.

I have no desire to have to make eye contact with my phone every time I want to use it, even if it can see me in the dark.

Touch ID gets faster the more you use it as it learns more of your fingerprint. I’d imagine face ID will as well.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, October 30, 2017 3:58 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark

right but the whole 'swipe to unlock' is bad. with touchID phones you can pull from your pocket and be at yr home screen before you even raise it to yr face

despite reports from people who apparently don't know what they're talking about, the music & radio apps in watchos 4.1 do work on a non-lte series 3. they just suck it across from your phone via bluetooth.

had a look at an x today. it’s definitely good, but it really doesn’t stand out all that much against other phones. even the screen is on par with current oled screens. the hype train is crazy.

The thing I like about the X is the larger screen in a smaller form factor. I’ll be checking at least one store today on the off chance there are any available

What I really want on an iPhone is a blackberry style notification light. So I can leave the phone alone and come back later and see if I have any voicemails etc without having to interact with it

https://www.imore.com/how-to-turn-on-led-notification-light-iphone

settings > accessibility > led flash for alerts > such and such

(although it doesn’t pulse forever like a blackberry iirc) xp

hoping the UPS driver in Jeff's area is quick so he can make the first iPhone X post here

i checked it out at an apple store today - felt surprisingly bigger than the 6/7/8 sizes although it's not supposed to be that much bigger

need a full OLED screen in an SE form factor

ding ding ding ding

hoping the UPS driver in Jeff's area is quick so he can make the first iPhone X post here

Saw one at the Apple Store today. It's ... nice? Not having the home button seems to be NBD, though it's harder to get to the camera now. The screen doesn't seem evenly lit -- in the books app there are various tone shifts in the white page. The size feels a bit odd -- it's narrower than I'd thought. I think I'd prefer something less deep and more wide.

There was a reasonable line at the store, but nothing at all like when the 6 came out.

harder to get to the camera? don't you just swipe left from the lock screen?

That still works on the lock screen, yep. My problem is from the home screen or in apps. Right now control centre is easy to get by swiping up from the bottom -- and then the camera button's under yr thumb. But now you have to swipe down from the hard-to-reach top-right corner and your thumb ends up in the wrong place to hit it.

control centre is fucked imo. swiping down one-handed from top for full audio controls is barely possible even on my SE

100% otm. should be a slide up from the right side of the screen or something

Not having the home button seems to be NBD

on day one sure, but given how quickly edge-swipe gestures went out the fucking window on the iphone 6 (even by ios 10 edge swiping had become pot luck), we need to see how well it still works when ios 13 comes out. that was my second reason for not getting an X (the first was price).

The screen doesn't seem evenly lit -- in the books app there are various tone shifts in the white page.

isn’t that a key appeal of oled? pretty bad if the Xes are all like that tbh.