guys, surely there is another thread better served for this kind of discussion
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link
Honestly, how common is the gay panic murder device? I don't get out to see many films, but I do watch politics, and discomfit with homosexual longing oozes from their pores.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link
oh god alfred that scene when Redmayne's characters turns into a scarf at the end, blowing in the wind
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
Rather.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link
yep, apologies
― Number None, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
are you serious
Cruising, Hard, Silent Partner, (plus cross-dresser/gender confusion sub-group: Silence of the Lambs, Sleepaway Camp, Dressed to Kill)
this is off the top of my head, there are so many of these
but yes let's take this to another thread
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
surely there is another thread
This thread went off those rails long before the discussion of Oscar-bait films of 1999, which is at least tangentally related to Miramax.
If we can have a shooting spree rolling thread, surely we can have a thread on public figures who have been disclosed as sexual predators.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link
i wonder if the likes of American Beauty, LA Confidential etc will become like Birth Of A Nation, never broadcast, nor issued on any upcoming formats, never shown at fests or anniversary screenings, ultimately spoken of in hushed tones and rotting away unloved on a studio shelf.
Well, tying in some other relevant names, James Toback's most well-known film (I'd guess, looking at his director credits) is his documentary on Mike Tyson - a convicted rapist who's been completely rehabilitated by the entertainment/sports world.
Unless this stuff is signaling a sea change in public attitudes that stick around (doubtful), sexual assault is the most forgivable crime.
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
'99 is probably my favorite movie year from my own lifetime. I liked American Beauty the first time I saw it and then wondered upon seeing it a second time if I'd suffered some kind of two-hour episode the first time I saw it. Still shocked that Alan Ball was subsequently responsible for something as good as Six Feet Under.
― Winky Carrothers (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
We have this thread: 1999 in film
― jmm, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link
i wd assume that spacey's career is basically over now, right? regardless of the status of his past films, it's hard to imagine him getting cast in anything any time soon
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link
Mike Tyson - a convicted rapist
At least he did time unlike the rest of these guys
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
this thread can be about predators absolutely but right now it’s devolved into overlooked movies from the 90’s and I want it to stop
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
BREAKING: Six women, including @oliviamunn & @nathenstridge, have accused Brett Ratner of sexual harassment or misconduct. Our story: https://t.co/qwjjQAIuFk— Amy Kaufman (@AmyKinLA) November 1, 2017
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link
Christ not the little big man as well..
― piscesx, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
can revelations about mcg and/or zack snyder be far behind
― proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
wd assume that spacey's career is basically over now, right? regardless of the status of his past films, it's hard to imagine him getting cast in anything any time soonThe hastiness of House Of Cards' cancellation suggests coworkers know there's more to come out. At the moment there's one story about him, as a youngish closeted former teen theatre kid, making a move on a teen theatre kid that he'd picked as being gay, and stopping when consent wasn't given. There have been loads of past murmurs about modern Spacey being a creep in London theatre, but a less horrendous "apology" to Rapp could have resolved this situation career-wise, if it's all there is.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
there's this now, though:
https://www.avclub.com/two-more-actors-accuse-kevin-spacey-of-sexual-assault-a-1820037557
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
Spacey obliterated any chance at career rehabilitation with his statement throwing the LGBT community under the bus. There will be no Mel Gibson-esque reconsideration in 10 years.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
Spacey has three major films in the can right now: he's starring in two of them, and the other one is a pretty big deal, Billionaire Boys Club. I wonder what's going to happen there, they can't exactly CGI him out.
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
yeah i just saw the trailer for the J Paul Getty one
might go straight to video/stream
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
the Brett Ratner thing is the least surprising thing on the planet. him going on a radio show and bragging about a sexual relationship with someone, a relationship that never happened, is probably a good indicator of a terrible human being and a red flag of someone capable of exactly what the stories tell.
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
yeah Ratner is not surprising and iirc there were stories before. I remember Howard Stern going over a clip of Ratner being interviewed by Jimmy Kimmel and him telling a story about hanging with Michael Jackson and throwing water balloons at homeless people from a limo at five in the morning. Howard was horrified- glad the clip is still up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufp006AHlgs
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
trying to think which hollywood man I'd be surprised to learn such things about. Clooney has a pretty squeaky image I guess. Spielberg. That's probably it.
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
i'd probably be surprised by Scorsese if only because for all his various wives over the years and earlier drug problems, he just seems like someone whose life is devoted to film. and everything i hear about him suggests he's an extremely decent guy. but you never know what happened in the '70s, and i remember a story or two from that Biskind book that weren't exactly in line w/what i just noted about him.
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
Always interesting the hear where Stern draws the line.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
I wouldn't be shocked it Clooney were a shithead. Spielberg, yeah. Tom Hanks, yeah.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
No one would surprise me, really. When you start thinking people are too innocent-seeming or above behavior, you start drawing lines.
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
Clooney's pranking antics are well-known enough that I wouldn't put it past him to not have the best judgment of when to not cross the line
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Nic Cage, be disappointing if he was up to anything as mundane tbh
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
that's true, cf the responses to the Ratner accusations in the piece from his former assistants...
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Drew CareyGarry MarshallDenzel WashingtonWill SmithDaniel Dae KimJohn ChoAziz AnsariChris PrattMike SchurWil ArnettClive Owen
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
you can safely assume the more power and wealth someone accumulates, the more likely it is they've felt entitled to doing awful things
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Multiple xps: I'm currently reading that recent biography of George Lucas, and whenever Marcia was off editing a film for Marty, Lucas made it absolutely clear he did not trust Scorsese not to try to make a move on her.
BTW, Dustin Hoffman: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
like none of the 10 DJP just listed would be at all shocking to me idk xp
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
Flight of the concords guys
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
Mike Schur would be shocking primarily from a friend-of-friends perspective
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
It would not surprise me to learn that any given man who had ever done anything for attention had committed sexual assault.
― .oO (silby), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
surely our ruffalo would never
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
this is turning into a tabloid "who's up next" and it's gross
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
Also, as these allegations mount and we tally them, it feels like we are starting to be more interested in keeping a tally on a scorecard than we are in helping the people victimized in these situations. I don't know what to do about that feeling.― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Tom Cruise is an obvious one. Travolta too. Although they're probably being shielded by Scientology for now.
Clooney is gay, right? That's the only gossip I've heard about him, that all his girlfriends were beards.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
let's ask his wife
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
well obviously she'd lie
― j., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
so that's how it works
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:50 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
& wives/ex-wives of Cruise, Travolta...
anyway sorry getting off topic again
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
take it to the toxic masculinity thread
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
pretty sure clooney is not gay although his wife is gorgeous as fuck
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
also being gay doesn't disqualify you as spacey has proven
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link