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“I am sorry for all the times I stabbed men, just a little, in my previous workplace. After years of counseling, I stopped stabbing men.”— Kate Harding (@KateHarding) October 28, 2017
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22912/former-grad-student-accuses-neil-de-grasse-tyson-emily-zanotti
― j., Thursday, 2 November 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link
I default believe all people coming forward as victims and the burden of proof in public accusation, unlike the law, is credibility and on the accused to prove innocence, not the court system to prove guilt of accused. But that doesn’t mean unclear things won’t surface, and that we as observers won’t have to tentatively be somewhat neutral
― mh, Thursday, 2 November 2017 01:31 (six years ago) link
http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/warner-bros-severs-ties-brett-ratner-1202604934/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link
otoh you have Ratner
― mh, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
Hoo boy.
http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/kevin-spacey-alleged-sexual-relationship.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
CW: Danny Masterson is accused of 4 counts of violent rape, involving Scientology cover ups. He's hired Cosby and Ratner's attorneys.
Exclusive: Despite ‘Overwhelming’ Evidence Against Actor Danny Masterson, including 4 victims, Rape Case Has Stalled https://t.co/sMBMPfiXKK— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) November 2, 2017
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
He's hired Cosby and Ratner's attorneys.
for when you need help appearing even more obviously guilty
― Simon H., Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
(click tweet to see thread with more info)
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
some of the details in those stories are sickening
― drejelire, Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
That Spacey story is so foul it makes me want to go home and burn any copies I have of any movie he's in.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link
I have some thoughts on the Spacey story, and the source. Aaaaand they will stay in my head.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
I really hate the way my brain processes traumatic events because after reading that guy's story, I sat staring at my screen thinking, "Jesus, what a terrible story. I'm glad he seems to have come out the other side okay-" and then all of a sudden every other thought was crowded out by "Keyser Sose touches kids / Doo-dah, doo-dah" to the tune of "Camptown Races".
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
that most recent accuser of spacey's sounds like one incredibly fucked up person. I'm not victim blaming but my god.
― akm, Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
?i thought he sounded credible
it takes a lot of work to come out of the other side oksometimes people who experience these things at a very young age don't ever realize that they were preyed upon, that it wasn't their fault. at least he has. it's a bitter pill to realize you were preyed upon when you thought you were making a decision.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
seems more like a fucked up period than a fucked up person?
xpost
― chinavision!, Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
"Keyser Sose touches kids / Doo-dah, doo-dah" to the tune of "Camptown Races".
― What's the range of an Iranian frogman dipshit? (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
I LOLed too, guilt schmilt.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
― akm, Thursday, November 2, 2017 2:35 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i have no idea what you are talking about. this account? http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/kevin-spacey-alleged-sexual-relationship.html
― marcos, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link
that experience so closely matched my own, it was painful to read
― marcos, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
i was stunned by how articulately he was able to speak about it, how conflicted he felt at a later age even when he became certain of how fucked up it was
― marcos, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
i mean this is ... ugh i don't even know. intense
What he left me with, more than what he took from me, was a sense that I deserved this. And that’s the knot I’m still untangling. Every time I’ve ever told the story, I am compelled to tell people how seductive I was towards these men. I’m compelled to tell people how much I wanted these things because some very deep part of me feels like it’s lying if I don’t say that. If I don’t describe how consensual it was. Some part of me takes a lot of work to understand that I can have been the victim of someone and not be a victim. So that’s all fucked up in my head.
and this. i remember doing the same thing when i started to process what had happened to me.
When did your thinking around what had happened start to change?When do I start to think of him as a sexual predator?Yeah. I assume you would call him that now.I would call him that to his face. I would call him a pedophile and a sexual predator. When I turned 25, I looked at every 14-year-old boy I could see, to try to understand what those men had seen, because I still on some level thought I had been a tiny adult. That whole year I was 25, I tried to just see the ones who were like six-foot-two, and 200 pounds — they all looked like children. They all looked like somebody who was 10 years old four years ago. Nobody looks fuckable. Nobody … I couldn’t conjure it up. I couldn’t conjure up the desire. It was nauseating to think of having sex with them, and that was, I think, certainly when I understood, on a very deep level, these men were fucked up. Up until then, I just thought about him as somebody who had really done me wrong and tried to rape me, but not as somebody who had functioned as a predator. And then, if you’re interested in sexual predation, you start to read about it, and you realize all these patterns and techniques, and it all kind of falls within a set of practices.
Yeah. I assume you would call him that now.I would call him that to his face. I would call him a pedophile and a sexual predator. When I turned 25, I looked at every 14-year-old boy I could see, to try to understand what those men had seen, because I still on some level thought I had been a tiny adult. That whole year I was 25, I tried to just see the ones who were like six-foot-two, and 200 pounds — they all looked like children. They all looked like somebody who was 10 years old four years ago. Nobody looks fuckable. Nobody … I couldn’t conjure it up. I couldn’t conjure up the desire. It was nauseating to think of having sex with them, and that was, I think, certainly when I understood, on a very deep level, these men were fucked up. Up until then, I just thought about him as somebody who had really done me wrong and tried to rape me, but not as somebody who had functioned as a predator. And then, if you’re interested in sexual predation, you start to read about it, and you realize all these patterns and techniques, and it all kind of falls within a set of practices.
― marcos, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
yeah - i don't quite see what the criticism of his story is? what do you see that maligns the accuser? if anything, he's terribly honest about his own motivations as a teenager
― Nhex, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
i felt the same way teenagers think they have it all figured out and really they don'tit can take many years to come to terms with being victimized/preyed upon
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
hmm interesting wonder what could have possible made him "fucked up"
― brimstead, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, November 2, 2017 2:32 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, November 2, 2017 2:34 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
<3 you DJP but really you should've done what morbz did here
― marcos, Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
woops meant to leave out akms post in there but whatever
― marcos, Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link
god theres some dumb shit itt today smh
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
― j., Wednesday, November 1, 2017 8:13 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yep.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
is that a "yep" like a John Gruber "yep"
― .oO (silby), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
that anonymous spacey account tore my heart to shreds
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
agree
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
yeah I wasn't trying to tarnish him, just that those situations with the cousin and the parents fucked him up.
― akm, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
well duh
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
I think it's safe to assume Spacey's career is over now.
― akm, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link
Hell of a strong read
https://www.theroot.com/kevin-spacey-and-the-damage-done-1820052424
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
like it's completely not cool to casually say "hey wow that trauma really fucked you up!"i feel like this needs to be said (i didn't before someone said it but...)
it's bad enough that it has to happen and ruins a young person's relationship to their body; to be seen as a "fucked up person" is the fear of everyone who has lived with the reverberations of sexual assault
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
A new name
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/02/david-corn-mother-jones-workplace-behavior-probe-244482
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
this toohttps://www.thewrap.com/corey-feldman-names-one-abusers-dr-oz-show/
― StanM, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
Fuck Dr Oz though.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link
A new namehttps://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/02/david-corn-mother-jones-workplace-behavior-probe-244482🕸
― flappy bird, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link
spacey being accused by people who work for house of cards now.
― akm, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/02/media/house-of-cards-kevin-spacey-harassment/index.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link
'I am an exuberant person and'
― j., Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link
speaking of guilty Spacey lols
House of Cards S06E01 (2018) pic.twitter.com/4Zrhamtuim— Xmas Early Adopter (@k_morrissey) October 31, 2017
― Simon H., Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link
lol
― j., Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link
Between Spacey and Masterson, this isn't a good time to be Netflix...
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link
they have a multi billion dollar production budget, they'll live.
― Simon H., Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:46 (six years ago) link
― akm, Thursday, November 2, 2017 6:35 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Man, this comment is fucked up. "Not victim blaming BUT..."
Yeah ok fucked up internet person, "Fucked up person" (...) backstories don't make their stories about abuse less believable, nor less true. You are victim blaming 1.01. Don't say you aren't. You should apologize for this shit imho.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:46 (six years ago) link