TNR publisher Hamilton Fish resigns amid harassment allegations https://t.co/GKeLuOl1Fp— Jessica Schulberg (@jessicaschulb) November 3, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 November 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link
WME's Adam Venit on leave amid sexual harassment allegations involving actor Terry Crews (EXCLUSIVE) https://t.co/IMKtI3ZECC pic.twitter.com/w4xhUYy7Cr— Variety (@Variety) November 3, 2017
― mookieproof, Friday, 3 November 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
whoa
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 November 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
17 is adolescent, don't kid yourself
otm, although we should probably allow better discretion in cases of relationships where one is 17 and the other is, say, 19, because statutory rape in most jurisdictions carries implications that could be considered a little harsh for somebody who has just become an adult, and where neither party has much influence on the outcome, certainly not compared to the "real" adults who are likely to engage with the case i.e. parents
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link
all that of nuance is of course rather jejune on a thread about fucked up shit where the abusers have held order of magnitude more power and influence than the victims, even fucking Toback
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link
the impossibility of discussing this properly is depressing
― ogmor, Saturday, 4 November 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link
so sorry you can't have a reasoned debate over the ethics of pederasty because it triggers an emotional response in people who don't appreciate being told that statutory rape is supposed to be good for them! so so so sorry
here's black and white: if you're in your 20s+ and you have have sex with a 14 year old on the off chance that it won't impart to them a lifetime of psychological trauma, you're a pedophile and a rapist.
on the off chance that that child grew up and had nothing but positive memories of the experience, you're still a pedophile and a rapist
until you can invent a time machine that'll send you 50 years in the future so you can have an adult conversation with the child you had sex with and they tell you "i'm glad it happened and do not consider myself taken advantage of or raped", you're a pedophile and a rapist
just like how in the off chance that you violently rape an adult who happens to have a violent rape fetish you knew nothing about, and they couldn't be happier about it, you're still a rapist
full stop
that's it
don't give a shit about your shades of grey, don't know why this is difficult, fuck off
― qualx, Saturday, 4 November 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
but congrats to morbs for popping in to reference a movie no one was talking about so the conversation deflects to debating a much smaller age gap, gj
― qualx, Saturday, 4 November 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link
You are having an argument with literally no-one - maybe get some sleep, man.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 4 November 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link
having an argument on a topic i didn't bring up, that has come up here before specifically by posters who have contributed to this exact conversation, that has been written on and defended in popular publications, and i'm sick of shutting up over it, and i'm definitely sick of hearing that emotional responses to rape are stifling some great debate club antics that are supposed to be happening
― qualx, Saturday, 4 November 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link
TNR publisher Hamilton Fish resigns amid harassment allegations https://t.co/GKeLuOl1Fp
β Jessica Schulberg (@jessicaschulb) November 3, 2017
no! he was the pillar of the grant administration!
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Saturday, 4 November 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link
if you were a gay kid who had a positive sexual experience w/ an older man and you consider it a good thing that happened, i'm genuinely not trying to take that away from you
but it doesn't negate anything i put in that post
― qualx, Saturday, 4 November 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link
anyway i'm done, i'm out, that's all
Otm.
― Mark G, Saturday, 4 November 2017 10:55 (six years ago) link
Forty seconds of hell not-quite-unleashed.
Uma Thurman's response when asked about the flood of sexual misconduct allegations....wow. pic.twitter.com/Sw5Br1GwFg— Yashar Ali π (@yashar) November 4, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 November 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
whoa.
― maura, Saturday, 4 November 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
<3
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 November 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
^^^
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 4 November 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
she hasn't been in a movie since Burnt (2015) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uma_Thurman#Filmography , which was released by...
― StanM, Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
and next year she's doing another Von Trier movie?
― StanM, Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-all-bill-clintons-fault/2017/11/03/ee16c574-c0df-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c2fa29724088
a Hot Take
― j., Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
I suspect (but can't prove) von Trier has been better behaved since he sobered up
― Simon H., Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
Asia Argento flees Italy after public condemns her for speaking out about Harvey Weinstein
β Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:02 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ugh wtf Italy
β change display name (Jordan), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:03 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jesus
β Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:09 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This seems to be an Italian thing. Was having a conversation about Weinstein with an Italian (female) colleague of mine and she wasn't exactly sympathetic towards his accusers.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
β Simon H., 4. november 2017 22:04 (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I suspect it happened before this. Charlotte Gainsbourg came to his defense, and she's been working with him since 2009. And I don't think you could do Antichrist and have the leading actress interested in working with you again unless you were quite professional.
On the other hand, his marriage recently fell apart because he got caught having an affair with a writer who then wrote about it. And his longterm producer/business partner Peter Aalbæk Nielsen is being forced off the credits of his new film because his answer to allegations of sexual harassment was 'yeah, I probably did that, but I've forgot about it, so it's her problem'.
When the Zentropa story is retold in a couple of years the story is going to be MUCH different than it has been.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
https://www.buzzfeed.com/harrydreyfuss2/actor-harry-dreyfuss-when-i-was-18-kevin-spacey-groped-me?utm_term=.kvNEp8xl6#.twX5qnBA0
― j., Sunday, 5 November 2017 03:53 (six years ago) link
that Uma Thurman video 0_0 wow
― Nhex, Sunday, 5 November 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
saying so little, yet saying so, so much
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 5 November 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
Harry Dreyfuss story is chilling. The blatantcy, smug confidence, all of it.
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN1a9QKWsAAd74f.jpg
― drejelire, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link
on the heels of blaming Rose McGowan for not coming forward sooner
ooof
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
Have any of these guys ever heard of the phrase "No comment"?????????
― flappy bird, Monday, 6 November 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
Is this your first encounter with Alec Baldwin? This is not even the first time this year that he's closed his personal twitter and immediately used his charity's account to attack someone for social justice politics and their career choices
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 6 November 2017 07:55 (six years ago) link
But that looks like a new low.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 November 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link
Baldwin's "I've bullied women" comment makes me think he's done far worse and is trying to control the narrative before it comes out.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 6 November 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
he's an incredible jerk, but that kinda speculation is the kinda pitchfork-and-torches stuff i find disquieting
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 November 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link
I mean, Bourdain does eat worms on his show...
― Eazy, Monday, 6 November 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link
I mean, this is "screaming at his daughter over the phone" Alec Baldwin
― mh, Monday, 6 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
alec "screaming at his daughter over the phone" baldwin
― j., Monday, 6 November 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
was that in response to something they said to him?
― akm, Monday, 6 November 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link
it was a custody thing: Baldwin took out his anger at the mother on the daughter, when the mother had the daughter call Baldwin to say that she wasn't going to make a handover
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 6 November 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-army-of-spies
― gbx, Monday, 6 November 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link
I know about the yelling at the daughter thing; I meant was the bourdain/argento post in response to something direct that they said?
I fucking hate twitter
― akm, Monday, 6 November 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link
wow @ that New Yorker article
― StanM, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link
Criminal prosecutions aside, surely to god there's an avalanche of lawsuits coming that will leave Weinstein bankrupt for life.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link
re: the new yorker article, god knows what other shit he pulled that we don't know about, if this came out...
― Nhex, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link
Ronan Farrow deserves a vaca right about now.
I'm always amazed at how much work must go into those New Yorker articles. Makes me feel like an invertebrate.
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 05:06 (six years ago) link
an avalanche of lawsuits coming that will leave Weinstein bankrupt for life.
It's a nice thought, but I'll believe that when I see it. The accusations can all be true and yet have insufficient evidence to succeed in extracting damages in court. It's more likely he'll die rich, but largely shunned by everyone he knew in the movie industry.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 05:16 (six years ago) link
wow this NYT statement to @brianstelter. Goes hard at David Boies for helping suppress Weinstein accusers while also representing the paper pic.twitter.com/2rXqtUTMxm— Matt Mittenthal (@mattmittenthal) November 7, 2017
― Number None, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Boies is definitely the one taking the hit in that new story. Also just surreal having a spy on the books to talk to everyone to extract information.
― Eazy, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link