need a CARCOSA wall
― j., Sunday, 5 November 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
Good news, everyone: the Antifa menace has been successfully scared into submission!
The only way Antifa Day was ever going to end: Conservatives bragging that the fake enemy of their conspiracy theory was too afraid to show. pic.twitter.com/wi8mZdY7Fe— Jack Smith IV (@JackSmithIV) November 5, 2017
― Moodles, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link
"Can't make this up"
― drejelire, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link
just checked both my closet and under the bed, and the Boogeyman was too chicken to show up in either! 😂😂😂 ROTFLOL
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link
those are probably all russians anyway
― j., Sunday, 5 November 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link
Meanwhile these fuckheads are making shit up as usual
Antifa discuss attacking churches pic.twitter.com/qeFFCjgEwo— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) November 3, 2017
Mass shooting at The First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, which has a largely white denomination. Antifa terrorist attack?— Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 (@Cernovich) November 5, 2017
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Sunday, 5 November 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link
The far right is determined to pin the #SutherlandSprings shooting on Antifa pic.twitter.com/KjJht32E16— Christopher Mathias (@letsgomathias) November 6, 2017
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 6 November 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link
I feel like a future mass shooter is going to come from their ranks. If you search "Sutherland Springs" on Twitter, you'll see all kinds of crazy claims. One says the government and their MKULTRA programs are behind it ; another says that the shooter brought a copy of Das Kapital to the service and declared a communist revolution. Never mind that antifa tend to be anarchists and not communists, and certainly not Soros-funded Democrats. If these people aren't trolls and bots, they're frightening.
― Fake Sam's Club (I M Losted), Monday, 6 November 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link
Gary Younge schooling R1chard Sp3enc3er
On a personal journey across white America, writer Gary Younge came face to face with alt-right leader Richard Spencer @Channel4 Thurs 10pm pic.twitter.com/25f0gHWmjO— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) November 7, 2017
― Neil S, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link
not an easy watch, but the look of incomprehension when Younge introduces himself is priceless
― Neil S, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link
I needed to watch the video of him being punched straight afterwards
It's good to get him on camera being a straightforward dimbulb racist, rather than his usual slick dog whistle approach
Even the way he was holding his drink was insufferable
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link
credit to Younge for restraining his anger while still absolutely pwning the greasy little fucker
― Neil S, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link
more footage from that interview here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puJ-arJgkZU
― jmm, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
"ancient egypt doesn't count as africa"
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
The "you'll never be an Englishman" line is just so shocking
it's like the daily mail comment section went to finishing school
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link
comment section derp is the most powerful poetry of our time apparently
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link
Spencer's transparent shock that the interviewer was a black man was pretty telling
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
it's true, up to that point I wasn't sure if Spencer was a Nazi or not
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
FAP for marching
― Estar Dan do (ORANGUTANS 13), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
We could start a band
― Estar Dan do (ORANGUTANS 13), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
Charles Pierce has the right idea regarding the Page transcript:
I found that the best way to read it was to dim all the lights and play all my Hawkwind albums really loud.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
oops, wrong thread...
― Moodles, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
Texas shooter was member of violent far-right Atomwaffen(tentative) and/or lots of money changed hands among neo-nazi groups just prior to the attack -> right media claiming antifa/leftist involvement -
dark shit here, cw violent racism, homophobia etchttps://medium.com/@EugeneVDebian/sutherland-springs-shooter-member-of-far-right-neo-nazi-group-atomwaffen-a358b920fc86
― ian, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
thx ian
― sleeve, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
obviously this is unproven at this point but the evidence as described is pretty compelling.
― ian, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
i cannot believe that spencer piece.
― correlated noise of conformity (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
this
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
Also, Spencer's "You'll never be an Englishman" line... Spencer will never be a Native American!
The videos designed to terrify kids on YT thing (see excrable kids programming thread) could be linked to gamergate apparently
Translation: I think the alt-right underground involved in the worst of G*g*te is responsible for the YouTube child abuse video phenomenon.— Corey Pein (@coreypein) November 7, 2017
― stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
I needed to watch the video of him being punched straight afterwardsthis
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, November 7, 2017 3:09 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha that is what i did
― marcos, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link
xp i cannot really understand that tweet thread. what is he talking about???
― marcos, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
And he's not English either!! Obv he still wouldn't get to tell him anything if he was, but the fact that this entitled prick thinks it's his call to make...
i cannot really understand that tweet thread. what is he talking about???
https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-internet-c39c471271d2
(fwiw I kinda think that might be missing the point of that article tho: the real terror is not the trolls making these videos - it doesn't take a big conspiracy, there were anti-Barney the Dinosaur sites in the late 90's - but the bots and algorithms hoovering those up and spitting them back out in 5 Hours Of Peppa The Pig videos)
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
The freak family stuff in that article is majorly effed. Interesting stuff but I wish manplainy guys who want to write 5000 word Medium posts could learn to, you know, edit.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
that article seems to be going viral, which I think is good
― sleeve, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
xp to daniel yea i did read the medium piece yesterday but yea i agree it seems like a stretch (based on that tweet thread) that alt-right gamergate dudes are responsible for this phenomena.....
― marcos, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
He’s writing it really poorly but I think he’s saying they’re taking advantage of/expanding on something already there, not totally responsible for it.
― stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
we need a separate thread for that Kids YouTube article. it's long because, unlike the button-pushing NYT article, he's trying to map out in detail the entire phenomenon so that it doesn't instantly snowball into hysterical descriptions like 'YouTube Child Abuse Phenomenon' but it doesn't take much for someone to already be tying it directly to gamergate
(says the fully grown adult who's just lost another 20 minutes to skimming through the highlights of 'Spiderman Frozen Elsa PREGNANT Hulk Vs Joker Venom Scream Face Killer Clown Fun SuperHeroes Prank', 2.5 million views)
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link
it would be a good idea for a separate thread, but for now it's been discussed here:
execrable children's programming pox
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link
the medium article is fascinating. Whether or not you think the author is hyping it all a little too much you can't say he's not thinking through how all of it works.
― cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link
yes I think it needs to be that long. the NYT article is punchy, but leads to panicked conclusions about 'child abuse' when the true issue is more akin to market failure.
friend has a executive pal at Nickelodeon who is obsessing about finding out who's behind Animals For Kids, I imagine they will get a show out of this. it's definitely not appropriate for unsupervised infants or babies or children but it is admittedly some kind of brilliant. it would be nice to at least know who the hell they are and what they're thinking. countless millions of combined views.
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link
way off the alt-right topic now but just to show how all these issues overlap, here are my two favorite pulls from each of the articles, look how easily they also apply to alt-right quandaries
NYT: Google has largely defended its errors by pointing to the enormous amount of content it hosts, including more than 400 hours of content uploaded to YouTube every minute.
Bridle: I have no idea how they can respond without shutting down the service itself, and most systems which resemble it. We have built a world which operates at scale, where human oversight is simply impossible, and no manner of inhuman oversight will counter most of the examples I’ve used in this essay.
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
I reckon it is rare to find someone as well read as Richard Spencer and with his high level of education bringing in all sorts of ideas. He spoke no lies in that video. But there is no doubt in my mind it was done to spread more left wing lies. There ain't no arguments in that video. No siree Bob. Just running their yappers. It is a real shame he is driven by hate though.
― The Sniper, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link
lol, oh you
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
No sireeee Bob!
xpost to myself, it is definitely the case that Bridle did not link to the worst stuff. The worst stuff is easily found and is utterly, utterly nightmarish. I didn't even post this to the People-Making thread because I respect wanting to keep it positive there; the Animals For Kids stuff is demented / goony & still has a discernable moral center -- the second you go to something like 'Mickey Mouse Peeking Girlfriends Bathing Full Episodes! Minnie Mouse, Donald Duck New Cartoon', your youtube auto-cue will become a living nightmare and you don't want to do that on a shared family computer
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link
the h3h3 channel (not a fan) exposed SOME of the "toy" channels being created by the dudes that were doing the viral "it's just a prank bro" videos and then stopped making money on the monetization so they jumped over to where the $$$ is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBWf6Zvn0jQ
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link
Those seem to be very different things though, that's basically a public access cable as-was mentality applied to the genre of the autogenerated stuff. If there's recognisable humans making it, it's in a different category.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link
want to rescind my earlier comments about how this is more market failure than child abuse. I've seen some more Animals For Kids videos that can only be described as intentionally created to harm young children. the sections with guns. these people aren't getting a Nickelodeon show, hopefully they'll be exposed and held to account.
evidently on youtube kids until recently, millions of hits. profoundly upsetting. there's a very, very good reason Bridle didn't link. I'd unwatch if I could.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:09 (six years ago) link
Whenever I think we’re not living in the future dystopia I imagined as a teen things like this remind me I just didn’t imagine it fully.
― cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link
I realize this is a legit digression but it bums me out that it is buried in this thread instead of on "execrable chlidren's programming" or perhaps a new thread for this new phenomenon as Milton suggested
― sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
I would start it but I don't know what to call it
― sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:18 (six years ago) link