Let me point out that James Ivory did not direct this movie, nor could he have.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
Bland is an idiotic word to use about this film, It's certainly not that!
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
re: gay cinema w/arty qualities + James Ivory, is MAURICE any good? i saw a trailer for the recent re-release and visually at least it looked vv intriguing.
― omar little, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
No.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
The book is crap too, but gays like it if they read it at a formative age.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
the film is a bit better than the book. it has rupert graves doing a country bumpkin accent.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
Maurice is the only Merchant-Ivory movie I've seen I have any time for. And not necessarily a ton at that.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), W
also: Rupert Graves' ass and flaccid cock
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
yes, Rupert could climb through my window anytime (at least then)
There are several good Merchant-Ivory movies, just not as many as blue-haired li'l old ladies think (and I include Rex Reed among them).
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link
porky pig style iirc
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
I didn't get far into Aciman's book, CMBYN, I really didn't like the writing and found it po-faced and humorless. Having not read the whole thing I can't say for definite that film>>book, in this case, but Guadagnino seems to have successfully undercut that aspect and made a genuinely funny film. The humour makes the relationship much more moving towards the end. I've already said that I was overwhelmed by this, and I was, and I think the reason it upset me so much was that it made my own life feel so passionless. I can think of maybe three or four times in my life that I've been reduced almost to hysterics by a film. The father's speech near the end is something genuinely new. I would have cheered had I not been trying to hold it together,
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link
The first third is rough going, and I almost gave up. Stick with it.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
this was ages ago before the movie was on the cards. i will go back and check it then.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link
I can't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz7T96k6Isc
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
btw here's a taste:
https://78.media.tumblr.com/cba41759e9c1486092932094434bf481/tumblr_oxd603LOPV1tjvraqo1_500.gif
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
hm:
As the production neared its end, Hammer admits, he became peevish and started to withdraw. “For reasons that could be personal to Armie, I had the feeling that he was pulling away,” said Guadagnino. “The movie wasn’t finished, and I had to bring him back.” I asked Hammer what had made him behave like that. “Everybody was sort of lashing out because this thing was ending and nobody wanted it to,” he said. He hesitated, wary of what to reveal. “Honestly,” Hammer said, “I think I had fallen in love with Luca.”
“For me to make a movie, it’s really creating a family,” said Guadagnino. “Having a very profound familial bond with the people I’m doing the movies with, where you literally and constantly fall in love with all of them. Sometimes, this emotional flow can be very intense. Very! As it was with Armie. And then it can be very complicated.”
Hammer had flourished as an actor and as a person under Guadagnino’s guidance and he couldn’t bear to let the project go. Eventually, he would have to, and so would Guadagnino, who was slated to begin his next film, a remake of the horror film Suspiria. Hammer said he became jealous once he felt Guadagnino mentally move on to that film. “I was like, ‘You fucking philanderer! You duplicitous bastard!’ And that made me pull away, and then he did, and it turned into this whole thing.”
“That was not my explanation for it,” said Guadagnino. “I never, never put Suspiria in front of Call Me by Your Name.” Still, he understood Hammer’s passion and reciprocated it. “It’s beautiful when you fall in love with someone and you are restrained in your exploration of that feeling and you sublimate it in making a movie like that,” said Guadagnino, who eventually called Hammer to his apartment to hash out his feelings.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
wow first I've heard of this suspiria remake
― treeship: a year in the life (wins), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
That's been in the works for what seems like forever.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
Last I heard David Gordon Green was doing it, and Thom Yorke was doing the score?
― Simon H., Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
Latter part's still true.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
The kindest thing I can say about CALL ME BY YOUR NAME - and perhaps I'm boiling my own hot water here - is that the age difference and notions of consent, were very low on my concerns and priorities list.Film.Was. Insanely.Sincerely.Romantic. pic.twitter.com/5OVmQvSeA9— Blake Goble (@BlakeGoble) November 15, 2017
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
so he hated it
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
What's the consent issue exactly? Is it just a function of the age difference?
I'm curious if the age gap would bother anyone if it weren't for the difference in their physiques, the fact that Elio looks boyish next to Armie Hammer.
I missed the one festival screening I could have gone to last weekend and now have to wait until Dec 22. *grumble*
― jmm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link
Their sex is legal; it's the climate in which the film is being released that has blown up this discussion.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
It's not about the current climate, the physique difference is a deliberate tactic to mess with your preconceptions. Eliot is built like a boy but Armie acts as boyish as Elio who is actually more mature and grounded in some ways, in spite of how he looks. The director deliberately heightens it by casting an actor in his 30s. It raises the stakes and makes the patents' acceptance and the father's speech more surprising (and imo, delightful).I don't understand that tweet Eric Posted - he starts off about to insult the film then gives it the highest compliment.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
fwiw apparently Hammer looks older to some of you guys... he turned 31 in late August, so he was probably just shy of 30 when this was shot. (I wonder if actors ever get away with shaving a few years off in this data-driven age.)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
i had read he was early thirties (possibly only in this thread) and i thought he was young looking for that.
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
Hammer plays 24 but looks 30, and jed_'s right: Elio's poise will upset people who haven't read the book and don't realize that life and art don't commingle.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/l1J3AqzpjRStb0Nd6/giphy.gif
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/26Ff68gV7hXgOtVni/giphy.gif
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
goddamn it
opened in NY/LA yesterday
Jonathan Romney: too idyllic
https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/film-week-call-name/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 November 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link
pfft
― flopson, Saturday, 25 November 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link
I don't think I've seen many films that have overwhelmed and seduced me to the extent that this one does. Everything that Romney draws out occurred to me either during or afterward and, while I agree with most of what he objects to, I also don't care. I know that Elio is ridiculously precocious but I don't care. I know that his family is stupidly privileged and don't care. I know that I'm being seduced! I don't care! I love every second of this film!
(although it would be better without the Sufjan songs)
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Sunday, 26 November 2017 02:16 (six years ago) link
I'm...not getting, once again, that this movie is so timid that it deserves brokebacking.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 November 2017 03:42 (six years ago) link
it doesn't
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 November 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link
God's Own Country is the less accomplished movie that I liked better.
Man, though, CMBYN has not one but TWO credit sequences for the ages!
― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 27 November 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link
https://www.out.com/armond-white/2017/11/30/call-me-your-names-sex-lives-rich-and-immodest
Even the editors of Out are, ahem, out to get him. "Swimming against the tide, our movie critic would rather watch Porky's than Call Me by Your Name" is not what he's saying here, but whatever.
― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link
Armie gave Timothee razor burn
http://people.com/movies/armie-hammer-timothee-chalamet-call-me-by-your-name-kiss/
and Chalamet has won best actor from the NY Film Critics Circle
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link
I can't even
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
"So assailed are we by reports of harmful pleasures, and of the coercive male will being imposed through lust, that it comes as a relief to be reminded, in such style, of consensual joy." — Anthony Lane, New Yorker
"lmao my dude nutted in an apricot" — Whiney G. Weingarten, ILX
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
Almodovar likes:
“Everything is beautiful, charming, and desirable in this movie: The boys, the girls, the breakfasts, the fruit, the cigarettes, the reservoirs, the bicycles, the open-air dancing, the 80s, the doubts and the devotion of the protagonists, the sincerity of all the characters, the relationship with their parents,” Almodóvar said. “Behold the commitment of the authors André Aciman, James Ivory, and Luca Guadagino with the passion of the senses, the light of Northern Italy, and especially Timothée Chalament, the great revelation of the year.”
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link
Upon further reflection, this movie's kinda overly precious, no?
― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link
Not moreso than teenage boys who play the piano, maybe.
Glenn Kenny thought so, however.
http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2017/11/the-sentimental-journies-of-call-me-by-your-name-and-lady-bird.html
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link
In a sense, then, this is the furthest thing from a “queer movie;” its whole project is to de-queer Elio’s mode of being. That’s the point of the film’s final shot. Yes, he’s heartbroken and crying, but there’s “beautiful” music, he’s literally crouching in front of a fireplace (the hearth!), and behind him his family, while giving him his space, is preparing a sumptuous holiday meal.
Only a straight person would write a passage this addled. I'm never queerer than when my parents give me my space and prepare a sumptuous holiday meal.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link
This comment otm:
Also, if I'm reading this right you're kind of putting forth a definition of "queer" that excludes a happy relationship between a queer person and their family. I may be getting the terms "queer" and "gay" mixed up but most of the gay people I've known have had loving relationships with their parents, by their accounts. And rather than a dark sign of our reactionary times, couldn't we take a story about a gay teenager who's totally embraced and supported by his family as an attempt to normalize "queerness" and push it into the mainstream? In other words, couldn't we see this as a progressive, rather than reactionary story?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
its whole project is de-queering my ass
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
kenny also references one of the most irritating and terrible pieces i've read all year. the old one-two
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
yeah i'm not buying that, just cuz these people are well-to-do and spending the summer in Tuscany xp
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link
This is the lowest you've sunk, Morbs.
― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link