This is the kind of quality entertainment assistance you only get on ILE (no sarcasm).
― trishyb, Thursday, 16 November 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link
it can be daunting. no, really, you have to watch the first 11 episodes of Bojack and then it gets REALLY good. but with H&CF it is totally true. though i didn't hate the first season or anything. american psycho is kinda the hardest to take in season 1. but he definitely just gets more weird and interesting as times passes.
― scott seward, Thursday, 16 November 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
true! I kept thinking, this guy is a sociopath, get him out of the room
― mh, Thursday, 16 November 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
ha, we tried the first episode last night and thought it was totally fine! will keep an eye out for shirt-ripping nadir.
as someone who lived through the era (my dad was a Kaypro dealer for a while) I appreciated the well-done references, Byte magazine, Compaq, CP/M, etc.
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 November 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
Oh shit, Byte magazine! I remember that!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 November 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link
^yes H&CF shows a level of research in the details that is quietly impressive. They also do a great job of coming up with business models that are realistic for the era but aren't straight copies of actual historic companies (afaik). That said, I have never totally loved it (watched through season 3; will def watch 4)--imo it remains somewhat flawed but increasingly worthwhile, and I especially like that each character gets a little turn at being the most interesting out of the bunch. Lee Pace, for ex, is much better when he's not the ostensible lead.
― rob, Thursday, 16 November 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
the convention stuff is some of my favorite stuff in the show. Windows dis is so funny.
― scott seward, Thursday, 16 November 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
I've had an old paperback of Soul of a New Machine on my shelf for 15 years, think I'll finally read it once I'm through with season 4.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 16 November 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
Season 1 of H&CF isn't as bad as people say it is, and you're probably not gonna enjoy it anymore if you treat it like homework. It's just a show that takes a few episodes to find its voice, but that first season tells a very, very satisfying standalone story, one probably worth watching even if the show never got renewed for several more much better seasons.
― Evan R, Thursday, 16 November 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
The point of H&CF is the journey of the characters becoming better/sane people, it's not as satisfying if you don't see where they start from.
― Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Thursday, 16 November 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
that’s a good point
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 November 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
I've heard from so many people (as well as the ones in this thread) that H&CF gets really good, but jesus christ I just could not get along with the (first half of) the first season at all
Lee Pace, in particular, made my skin crawl
― Number None, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link
it's not THAT good
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link
anyone watch 1922? another king adaptation. it was p schlocky but i enjoyed it. good performance by the main actor. i think there's good scope for netflix to make more interesting short story type movies, almost like freedom from massive budget and the associated pressure and compromise.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 November 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link
it’s not one of the greatest series, but I love trash and middlebrow stuff (although H&CF never aims at the middle, quite) and I support all viewers to move on to that series’ thread because it’s short, relatively spoiler free, and now a viewing club
― mh, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link
i'd never seen nirvanna the band the show until the shout out in this thread. funniest show i've seen in a good while
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 17 November 2017 01:01 (six years ago) link
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, November 17, 2017 8:38 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I liked this but it was on the meh side. I agree that Netflix is particularly good for these kind of small-scale adaptations.
Gerald's Game, the other King adaptation though! My god, that was an intense watch. It does kinda fall apart a bit in the last five minutes or so, but I mostly blame the book for that. Carla Gugino is awesome in it too.
― Roz, Friday, 17 November 2017 07:41 (six years ago) link
Godless is really good. Jeff Daniels is a proper villain. Plus, Scoot McNairy for you Halt & Catch Fire fans. It's 7+ hours long and incredibly bingeable.
― scott seward, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link
i am getting good at spotting Brits now in American period t.v. I could tell that Alice, Roy, and Whitey were Brits even though i didn't know who they were.
― scott seward, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link
also, i love Denise from the Walking Dead in this and i hated her on the Walking Dead. it's nice to know that she is just a really good actor who made me hate her on the Walking Dead. she should definitely get bigger/better roles just for her part in this.
― scott seward, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link
Friday theyre putting out a doc on that nyer gay talese voyeur motel thing
― johnny crunch, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7588790/?ref_=nv_sr_5
I watched a trailer for the new Black Mirror thing, and was amused to see a comment under it saying "This is the dumbest show on earth." I thought, this person must not have seen Len Goodman's Partners in Rhyme.
― trishyb, Monday, 27 November 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
Is anyone watching USA's Damnation? I'm intrigued by the premise.
― Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link
/anyone watch 1922? another king adaptation. it was p schlocky but i enjoyed it. good performance by the main actor. i think there's good scope for netflix to make more interesting short story type movies, almost like freedom from massive budget and the associated pressure and compromise.― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, November 17, 2017 8:38 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink/I liked this but it was on the meh side. I agree that Netflix is particularly good for these kind of small-scale adaptations.Gerald's Game, the other King adaptation though! My god, that was an intense watch. It does kinda fall apart a bit in the last five minutes or so, but I mostly blame the book for that. Carla Gugino is awesome in it too.
― sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
American President Biography: Benjamin Harrison Documentary From Early Childhood to After Office
― mick signals, Monday, 27 November 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
can i really be the only person watching LA REINA DEL SUR?
^^^
― mark s, Monday, 27 November 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link
To the Ends of the Earth is pretty good. Cumberbatch looks 14 in it. It's also fun to watch Sam Neill and Jared Harris giving him shit.
We started Godless last night, seems like a good time.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 3 December 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link
wow that Gay Talese bio on the Voyeur
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Monday, 4 December 2017 01:31 (six years ago) link
i want to see that! good?
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 December 2017 02:09 (six years ago) link
Joan Didion doc is good
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 December 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link
NYT review of Voyeur was very dismissive; would love to hear other opinions.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 4 December 2017 03:37 (six years ago) link
The Talese / Voyeur thingy left me pretty puzzled. It felt like it was setting up a twist that never came, before ending quite abruptly (when they realized no twist would come)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 4 December 2017 09:10 (six years ago) link
watched the first few eps of "dark" last night, german supernatural type thing. i'd read good reviews but i thought it was extremely derivative, parts of the french "the returned", the killing, all those terrible uk copycats of the killing etc. some nice music and cinematography, i guess i'll watch the other 7/8 episodes but i won't feel proud of myself after and there's always the likelihood it just makes me stop watching it via overload of stupid scenes. a LOT of terrible exposition so far too.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 4 December 2017 10:06 (six years ago) link
Kantaro Salaryman is both one of the most delightfully ridiculous shows whilst at the same time being a usefully guilds the traditional desert shops of Tokyo.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 4 December 2017 10:29 (six years ago) link
recalling the New Yorker article as best I can, the twist is that the guy likely made most of it up
― sciatica, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
theres no way to know, gay actually visiting & watching on one occasion is enough that theres some truth. the holes & the last fact that made gay initially disavow the bk doesn't make me think "most" of it is fiction
― johnny crunch, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
yeah my impression from the article was that the guy spent literally years in his creeper attic, saw a bit of boning but otherwise discovered that ppl are actually super boring so made a bunch of stuff up. I’m def curious abt the doc, will watch this week
― sciatica, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
As a documentary, it's about 20 minutes too long. The premise is, of course, outstanding and I loved the excerpted article in the New Yorker. But I wouldn't buy the book.
It's definitely worth watching IMO.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Monday, 4 December 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link
it's worth watching for all the stuff in talese's basement alone
― ||||||||, Monday, 4 December 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
"Kantaro Salaryman is both one of the most delightfully ridiculous shows whilst at the same time being a usefully guilds the traditional desert shops of Tokyo."
everyone on this thread needs to see this. sheesh, just the first episode alone. and break out the 4K 55 inch screen for it. so beautiful to look at.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link
the last installment of Godless - which a 120 minute movie all on its own - wasn't QUITE as epic as i had hoped? but still good. that was a very satisfying entertainment. i hope jeff daniels gets another part like that very soon.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
yeah i did not like the finale. some really great individual scenes tho.
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-04/netflix-wants-adult-viewers-to-choose-their-own-adventures
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
Didn't Steven Soderberg do something like this already this year
― Nhex, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link
First two episodes of "American Vandal" were pitch perfect, can't wait to watch more.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link
into the jim and andy documentary about Jim Carrey's portrayal of andy kaufman in "man on the moon"
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 05:32 (six years ago) link
i liked it but it feels more like a Zmuda-inspired long con/Carrey performace art piece than a real story about how he “lost himself” in the role which is how it’s been receivedi think way more ppl were in on that on-set footage than anyone is led to believe
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 06:27 (six years ago) link
do you think? the documentary would have benifitted from other people besides Jim talking to the camera.
i found jim's whole act cringey and unbearable. judd hirsch's side-eye while jim is "channelling" andy says it all
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link