the flat earth society is meeting here todayyyyyyyyyyyy

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“I don’t believe in science,” said Hughes, whose main sponsor for the rocket is Research Flat Earth. “I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air, about the certain size of rocket nozzles, and thrust. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula. There’s no difference between science and science fiction.”

Dunning-Kruger

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

nothing scientific about doing an experiment that proves a hypothesis

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

may offer some evidence towards natural selection

who says no to mentals? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

this is all so purely in the realm of not even wrong

who says no to mentals? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

Hughes only recently converted to flat-Eartherism, after struggling for months to raise funds for his follow-up flight over the Mojave.

i doubt his commitment to this cause.

Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

I don't have the data to back it up, but I feel like the overlap between flat earthers and Darwin award winners is pretty sizable.

― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Sunday, 21 May 2017 17:23 (six months ago)

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

It's rare to read a pre-obituary. Godspeed, dude who's about to smear himself across the Mojave.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

But that’s not science, that’s just a formula.

Does this person know what the word science means?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

*trying not to mention Trump*

The buttermilk of Beelzebub (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link

one of my 10th grade chemistry students just told me he's a flat earther

i asked him why, he said "because it looks flat to me"

i asked him about all of the evidence for a round earth (including photos from space) and his response was "that's just shit adults tell me, and most shit adults tell me is bullshit"

hard to argue with that

the late great, Thursday, 30 November 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link

the argument is that "most" doesn't equate to "all"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 November 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

ask him what thinks is on the other side of the flat earth. also what happens to planes when they fly to the edge of earth.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 30 November 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

It's a ridic position because this isn't even something so complex that you just have to take experts at their word about it. It's pretty easy to follow along step-by-step the logical path that leads to "Earth is a sphere", and there's numerous paths which lead to it. They're just too lazy to do it themselves.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 November 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

internet flat earth people are insane cultists. there's no other explanation.
the amount of stuff they don't believe is real is baffling.

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 30 November 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

It's an infantile response to an uncertain, confusing world. "These 'adults'* don't have a 100% spotless record of telling me the truth about stuff, so therefore I will assume EVERYTHING they tell me is wrong googoogaga". You see the same thing with people post-2016 election going "well it's a poll and the prez election polls were wrong so therefore I totally dismiss it"
*for actual adults saying this, swap in "experts" or "scientists"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 November 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

I had a conversation with one of these dopes where when confronted with the extremely obvious contradictions and fallacies in their 'theory' they then explained "well actually we're living inside an artificially generated construct so how could we really know, makes u think, etc".

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 30 November 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

this is a thread I never expected to get to 100 posts. makes me kinda depressed :/

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

yeah in some way I think this particular flashpoint is really symbolic of the current in-vogue strain of know-nothingism

sleeve, Friday, 1 December 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

they even made fun of flat-earthers in Encyclopedia Brown ffs

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 December 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link

Was just checking to see how spectacular Mike Hughes's entrance to Valhalla was. Psssh. What a tease. But at least the update has some choice pull quotes.

His project has cost him $20,000, which includes Rust-Oleum paint to fancy it up and a motor home he bought on Craigslist that he converted into a ramp.

"My feeling is that one of the top executives at the Bureau of Land Management called Needles, California, saying ... 'What's going on? Who permitted this?'" Hughes said.

Plus, as he and his team were preparing to leave Wednesday, the motorhome/rocket launcher broke down in his driveway, he said.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Sunday, 3 December 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

just fell down a youtube rabbit hole on some local flat earthers' videos. basically, all of their questions can be answered by gravity. which they deny the existence of, of course

||||||||, Sunday, 3 December 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

feel like i should give my 2 cents as a physics educator

what's funny is that some of these people actually are science-ing and doing good experiments, the problem is they're not proving what they think they're proving. they're just proving a basic assumption in physics - that a small enough piece of a large enough curve can be accurately approximated by a flat surface. similarly you could misuse erathosthenes' experiment to disprove the curvature of the earth (really you'd just be proving the assumption that at a big enough distance from the source, light rays are assumed to travel parallel to each other).

while it's kind of cool i guess that people are attempting to think scientifically the distrust of "book learning" is really sad. i feel like a lot of these people haven't done the basic research and just aren't aware of really simple proofs, like, say, eratosthenes' experiment. also even though they're exercising scientific thinking they're pretty bad at it, cf just not understanding what they're proving or disproving

the late great, Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

hmmm...that might be true, but does any of that matter if we're living in a computer solution? just sayin

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

dude it is precisely by spotting and noting such inconsistencies in the programming of the matrix that we can bring the whole facade crashing down

the late great, Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

he should have tried flying to tucson, arizona - well-established experiment for testing whether we are living in a computer simulation

'cause there's always been an it i can't truss (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

lol tlg

sleeve, Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

How could he know the lengths of the shadows at exactly the same time though?

nickn, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 05:18 (six years ago) link

Eratosthenes heard about a famous well in the Egyptian city of Swenet (Syene in Greek, and now known as Aswan), on the Nile River. At noon one day each year — the summer solstice (between June 20 and June 22) — the Sun’s rays shone straight down into the deep pit.
...
Eratosthenes erected a pole in Alexandria, and on the summer solstice he observed that it cast a shadow, proving that the Sun was not directly overhead but slightly south.

new noise, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 05:33 (six years ago) link

first paragraph should be

Eratosthenes heard about a famous well in the Egyptian city of Swenet (Syene in Greek, and now known as Aswan), on the Nile River. At noon one day each year — the summer solstice (between June 20 and June 22) — the Sun’s rays shone straight down into the deep pit. They illuminated only the water at the bottom, not the sides of the well as on other days, proving that the Sun was directly overhead.

new noise, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 05:39 (six years ago) link

But how does he know exactly when noon is? Would that be using the shadows to prove the shadow lengths?

nickn, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link

and just who IS this eratosthenes, anyway?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 06:24 (six years ago) link

More like error-tosthenes, amirite?

nickn, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link

He knows that on one day (Summer solstice, which civilisations have always been very good at noting and marking) there is no shadow at Syene, and some shadow the whole day at Alexandria - the shortest shadow will be the point at which the sun will be closest to being overhead.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 08:01 (six years ago) link

two months pass...
two weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYQiHLhX0AIN0al.jpg:large

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 15 March 2018 09:46 (six years ago) link

same tbh

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 March 2018 09:48 (six years ago) link

he looks pretty happy about it. Blissful ignorance I suppose.

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 15 March 2018 09:50 (six years ago) link

(xps) insert 'blue balls' joek here...

2018 has to be better (snoball), Thursday, 15 March 2018 10:33 (six years ago) link

email correspondence posted on guardian writer dawn foster's twitter account:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYfR_epWAAAQTZM.jpg

"the suez canal is 100 miles long and there are no locks" is i think my favourite

mark s, Saturday, 17 March 2018 12:06 (six years ago) link

https://www.flatearthconventionuk.co.uk/

3 day convention coming up in Birmingham, with talks by many "high educated heliocentric believers". Quotes from Tesla, Socrates and Neil deGrasse Tyson on the site!

calzino, Saturday, 17 March 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link

The reality TV idea is fun, but I'm afraid that the participants will either be so suspicious of anyone involved that they would think they were being tricked whatever they were shown, or (and I reckon this is at least 80% of flat earthers) trolling.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 17 March 2018 12:22 (six years ago) link

"the suez canal is 100 miles long and there are no locks" is i think my favourite


this is some kind of reverse-genius here

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 March 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link

The Standedge Tunnel is the longest, deepest and highest canal tunnel in Britain. It is 5,500 yards (5,000 m) long, 636 feet (194 m) underground at its deepest point, and 643 feet (196 m) above sea level.

I have been through this, it is deep and high at the same time, this might be confusing to Flat Earthers.

calzino, Saturday, 17 March 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link

Flat Earthers not Ike and Tina fans, then?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 18 March 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link

I'm more curious about Tina's take on Sir John Ramsden's very narrow canal!

calzino, Sunday, 18 March 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

They still haven’t been able to get us a picture of the whole earth in one pic. I’m skeptical on space at all. Over 50 years later and still no actual proof that we’ve been out of low earth orbit

— jerry mcgregor (@benchmarksr) November 19, 2018

Karl Malone, Monday, 19 November 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link


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