Not ~ entirely ~ convinced Treeship 2 isn't actually Treeship tbh
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link
t2 not as loosey goosey imo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link
Treeship of Theseus, imo
― Frederik B, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:21 (six years ago) link
Treeship of Fools
― here come the warm jorts (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link
― Frederik B, Monday, November 27, 2017 8:21 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is pretty good
― treeship 2, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link
people get killed inthe result of treeshipbuilding
― Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link
second coming of treeshus sheist
― gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link
Since the first day I took office, all you hear is the phony Democrat excuse for losing the election, Russia, Russia,Russia. Despite this I have the economy booming and have possibly done more than any 10 month President. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 26, 2017
― gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link
well it's about time they started smearing mueller
http://www.newsweek.com/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-aides-criticize-722670
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link
he is the jan brady of presidents (xpost)
― akm, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link
There you have it, he's a 10-month president. No need for all those other months.
― voodoo chili, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link
Time for him to pack his bags
"possibly done more"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
Well I’d be surprised if the rancid little fucker could spell Cambridge Analytica on first try.
― kim jong deal (suzy), Monday, 27 November 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
We should have a contest as to which of the Networks, plus CNN and not including Fox, is the most dishonest, corrupt and/or distorted in its political coverage of your favorite President (me). They are all bad. Winner to receive the FAKE NEWS TROPHY!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2017
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 27 November 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link
oh cool he still remembers his Apprentice days!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link
"your favorite President (me)." strong contender for next month's thread title
― frogbs, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link
As in #metoo
― nashwan, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link
plus CNN and not including Fox.hey i have a magic trick. just... wait... just close your eyes for a second
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
Fox disqualified for winning the trophy 20 years in a row
― President Keyes, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THr_seahKUI
Christ on a bike
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
Every network is FAKE NEWS except for FOX, which airs Real News about how Hillary hasn't been to the dentist in NINE months even though you're supposed to get a checkup every SIX months
― voodoo chili, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
I will spend every penny I have to my name to watch the live pay-per-view special of our favorite president being drawn and quartered. Like, I will sell all of my stuff. Whatever it takes.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 November 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link
Who knows about anything anymore, but it does seem that the tax proposals are, go figure, not only really unpopular with the millions of people they would hurt - no one seems to be buying the "middle class cut" BS - but at least as of right now, on paper, not good enough to gain enough GOP senators to pass. Or at least, on the latter front, certain hand-wringers would have to, for no clear gain, hold their nose and vote for something that explicitly violates various pledges and principles (like the deficit, or health care or whatever), but I really don't see why they would do that. I mean, of course I do, but it just seems so dumb, even by DC standards, to back off your own standards and vote for something that no one likes for the sake of, what, not entering 2018 election season in a weakened position? The way it looks now, passing something shitty for everyone (but corporations) might be even worse than not doing anything at all. At least people can run on "we're holding out for something better." It's tougher to run on "yeah, it was a terrible plan, but we needed to do something to appease corporations and big donors." Though sure, try that one out.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
Not sure I'd count on the "better a pedophile than a Democrat" party to do the right thing for their constituents here, especially given how they've been told in no uncertain terms that the donor money was going to stop flowing if they can't get tax reform done. Then again, this bill is such an unlikeable mess. I can't fathom how this stuff gets architected - like Obamacare repeal, all you need is something that's simply "bad", but they can't even manage that!
― frogbs, Monday, 27 November 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
Let's just do it and be legends!
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 November 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link
Kind of like the Alabama race, it seems sort of a lose-lose.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
unfortunately, they may lose less passing the tax bill than not. If they pass it, they piss off some voters, but please their donors and get to pocket a juicy tax cut. If they don't pass it, they lose their donors and their tax cut, while their voters will still be somewhat pissed because it seems like they aren't getting anything done. If they sense that they are going to be facing a wave election next year and will be losing their seats either way, why not at least get the juicy tax cut?
― Moodles, Monday, 27 November 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link
bc it's evil
― treeship 2, Monday, 27 November 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
at least i hope that murkowski and mccain believe that
― treeship 2, Monday, 27 November 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
Poll: Majority of small businesses oppose GOP tax bill
Seems an exploitable fissure in the GOP coalition.
― Sanpaku, Monday, 27 November 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
made the mistake of watching a little Morning Joe this a.m. and they were incredulous that the Dems have not been able to make better political hay of this shitty tax bill. somehow collectively ignoring the fact that, as JiC points out, IT IS ACTUALLY MASSIVELY UNPOPULAR. aside from horse-trading I don't see what the Ds can do to actually stop this train if the GOP decides once and for all to send it down the tracks. doesn't matter if 100% of the public hates it. I guess in theory it could become as politically toxic as ACA repeal, but I think we knew all along this was going to be a far tougher sell, especially if enough people in the middle class are getting back something if only in the short term.
― evol j, Monday, 27 November 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
Murkowski seems to support the bill so far. I don't think evil ranks very high in their list of concerns. In fact, I'd call evil their raison d'être.
― Moodles, Monday, 27 November 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
McCain is an evil prick on the vast majority of matters so idk why he wouldn't support this (beyond political expediency/PR)
― Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
mccain hinting he might thumbs-dumb tax "reform" too?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/mccain-recounts-obamacare-repeal-death-blow-in-new-interview.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link
McCain's sole m.o. has been complaining about "regular order" (lol) and this tax bill has been through committee and will go to the floor for amendments, which is considerably closer to "regular order" than the b.s. process that the obamacare repeal bill went through.
I bet he's a yes.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
maybe he dies sitting on his thumb up
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
CBO score is out and guess what?
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/domestic-taxes/361913-cbo-senate-tax-bill-would-hurt-poor
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
Fake news
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
will one GOPer have the guts to come out and say "poor people are subhuman" /tr3nch4n1
― brimstead, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
Why bother saying it when your every action clearly broadcasts the same sentiment?
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
I mean, also, part of their strategy is telling credulous masochists that they're totally in their corner while they beat them up and steal their wallets.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
WH: Yam will not campaign with Roy Moore
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
five steps to passing this piece of shit
1. Make the bill even better for rich business owners, to win over Johnson and Daines.2. Put in a $10,000 property tax deduction – and scrap the state-and-local tax deduction for corporations – to win over Susan Collins.3. Give Lisa Murkowski some oil.4. Let the deficit hawks eat wildly optimistic growth projections.5. Convert all Senatorial seats to hereditary positions (for Republicans, not Democrats) j/k
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/how-the-gop-plans-to-get-its-tax-bill-out-of-the-senate.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
Meanwhile Mick Mulvaney is now head of two federal administrative bodies.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
"this is what dictators do"
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
“It has come to my attention that Ms. English has reached out to many of you this morning via email in an attempt to exercise certain duties of the Acting Director. This is unfortunate but, in the atmosphere of the day, probably not unexpected,” he said.
“Please disregard any instructions you receive from Ms. English in her presumed capacity as acting director.” Mulvaney also asked CFPB employees to report any additional professional communications from English to the general counsel’s office.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
congrats to mick mulvaney, somehow the biggest piece of shit in a piece of shit administration
― voodoo chili, Monday, 27 November 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
mr. mulvaney should report to the lobby to pick up his commemorative sash
sounds like a fun day at work!
― Karl Malone, Monday, 27 November 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link