News vs. propaganda:
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― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
The Flynn news is big -- he's pleading guilty to that charge.
He's flipped.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link
yeah but her emails!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link
lock her up
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 1 December 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
yep pleading guilty to these weak charges means he flipped i'd imagine
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link
Which means Mueller is moving up the food chain. Which means Kush, Trumps ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 December 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link
Folks pic.twitter.com/6aV3ZSUX5y
― evol j, Friday, 1 December 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link
it was deficit december again in DC
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/us/politics/republican-tax-bill-moves-closer-to-senate-passage.html?_r=0
donald didn't golf every week day
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
Can we lock one of these threads?
― Moodles, Friday, 1 December 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
Lock them all
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
mnuchausen
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
LOCK EM UP
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
Beautiful
Sources with direct knowledge tell ABC News the President & his legal team learned about the Flynn plea via news reports this morning.— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) December 1, 2017
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
awesome
keep this thread open, lock the other one please
― sciatica, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
i hope it was from cnn xp
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
hahaha
― sleeve, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
sorry, i just have to post the url
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/white-house-overrun-cockroaches-mice-ants-article-1.3669210
― brimstead, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
It's absolutely true, and that's not even counting all the non-human vermin running rampant.
― Moodles, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link
The Oval Office bathroom was also in need of a new toilet seat, with directions that it be installed “after hours please.”
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link
well you see how often the guy tweets
― Evan, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
New: Source close to the president attempted to mitigate the severity of the charge against Flynn by pointing out that everyone lies in Washington, per reporting by @GloriaBorger.— David Wright (@DavidWright_CNN) December 1, 2017
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
i am not a lawyer but that defence seems... flimsy
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
lol
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
the two threads can talk to each other. practice for the holidays
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
Bet the seat broke the morning he tweeted cofefe.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
"Everyone lies," says Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_and_Knaves
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
― Three Word Username, Friday, December 1, 2017 10:59 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
eyes rolled back, left eyelid flutters, secret service knocks "everything alright in there sir?"
― Evan, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
okay so is firing Comey going to go down as the dumbest move in political history?
― frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link
Just think: if Hillary had won, Trump never would've had to fire Comey!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
dumbest move in political history is in the oval office right now iirc (presuming it's not golfing)
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
Drain that swamp.
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
Okay seeing a rumor that Flynn will testify that Trump directly ordered him to make contact with the Russians. That's...that's something. (Let's see if it's real.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
Just now: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Flynn promised full cooperation to the Mueller team and is prepared to testify that candidate Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians.” https://t.co/E0tA37GOo0 pic.twitter.com/PmNEO7eekt— Dan Linden (@DanLinden) December 1, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
!!!
― Evan, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
maybe santa is real guys
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
WE'RE GONNA SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS AGAIN
― frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
OPPO DUMP
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
that’s what broke the oval office shitter iirc
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
THIS IS BIG YES?
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
https://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Pence%20letter.pdf
― Evan, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
Dumbest movement in political history would be in the West Wing toilet right now if they could only get the damn seat fixed.
― Moodles, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
that DependsTM
― Evan, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
terrible timing, dropping all this in the middle of infrastructure week
― frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
Erik Prince just now on lesson to be taken from Flynn charge/plea: "Don't talk to the FBI"
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
tremendous patriot
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
all I want for Christmas is impeachment.
― cajunsunday, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
really trying hard not to get too excited about this but
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
i hope for all our sakes mr. trump buys and flips mr. flynn's house. #MRGA
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
i got chills hearing that you guys . is this real
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
In 1984, Ronald Reagan debated Walter Mondale in Louisville and plainly had no idea where he was
I just watched the first 10 minutes of that debate on youtube, and the disturbing thing is Reagan seems far more cognitively together, far better at putting a complicated sentence together than Trump has been in the past I don't know how many interviews. Although in the case of Trump, I'm still wondering whether it's dementia or just a case of being a complete moron
― Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 30 December 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link
why not both
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 30 December 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
First debates are never good for the incumbent; they look distracted, respond defensively, and act irritably (think Obama, Bush II, Poppy too). Reagan only looks unusually ruffled in the second half.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link
Schmidt responds:
During our conversation in July, I learned the challenges this president poses in interviews. He can jump from an issue like the Russia investigation to a policy matter before going off on a tangent about something like his golf game. If you try to interrupt him, he often continues talking. Given this, I employed a strategy in which I asked questions about the most pressing issues of his presidency and then allowed him to talk.
Some readers criticized my approach, saying I should have asked more follow-up questions. I believed it was more important to continue to allow the president to speak and let people make their own judgments about his statements. It was the best way to learn as much as possible about the president’s mind-set and his views on issues like North Korea.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link
times now has a separate "fact check" piece on their own interview pointing out a number of the totally false statements made by the president. i guess putting this information in the publication of the interview itself is just too complicated.
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link
just watched a bit of the Reagan/Mondale debate, he's super on point compared to Trump
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
that debate is Lincoln-Douglas compared to the last dozen years. Mondale was pretty damn good, very far from a fuddy-dudd.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
tbf, that "getting the interview" essay probably revealed more of the president than the interview itself.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
btw, the lot-drawing to break the legislative tie in Virginny is BACK ON!
also the Admin has dropped its attempt to block trans troops, at least for now.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
Hello.
So the “coffee boy” whose main qualification was Model UN effectively sparked the entire Russia investigation. Just incredible. https://t.co/9ah69w4NpV?amp=1— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) December 30, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
greeks and their big mouths
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
Hilarious. Don’t go drinking with Australians unless you’ve been practicing.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
there is something poignant in the air about the older man with the real hair who served with distinction as a marine taking down the posterboy for silverspoon assholes with the fake hair
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-offered-publicly-signals-long-year-ahead/story?id=52049373
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
Mueller killed kids for lbj huh
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
bsab so eat your own
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link
Mr. Papadopoulos, then an ambitious 28-year-old from Chicago
Had no idea he was from here. Wonder if there is a connection with that crazy Chicago freelancer who was reportedly working with a Russian cutout to get dirt on Clinton, and then later killed himself?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
false alarm. still hillary's / dem's fault
http://img.fark.net/images/cache/full/C/CW/fark_CWajSdlOMxhHohe-R7V9hLApKaM.jpg?t=CxUzcfkXE-YE7SBVXcxmiQ&f=1514782800
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
Trump found an “oppressive regime “ he doesn’t like. No shock, it’s Iran. He and his twitter followers are convinced of course that his vocal support for protesters there will work better than Obama’s quieter methods.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link
Two new pieces of fuckery:
the DOT has declared the deal they had with the governors of NY and NJ to pay 50% of the costs of rebuilding the Hudson River train tunnel, one of the most heavily traveled train routes in the US, null and void; and
the Interior Department is rolling back safety rules put in place after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
this must be the great infrastructure plan we've been waiting for this entire infrastructure week
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
Yeah, who would have guessed the goal of his infrastructure plan would be to make American infrastructure weaker. Savvy operator, that Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link
Keeps us on our toes.
we need to cripple that liberal outpost, NYC, in order to make america again
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
I'm sure a certain kind of Republican agrees!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link
NYC hated Orange Don first
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 31 December 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link
Some echoes here of my feelings about the stock-as-fuck "Cletus Safari":
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/media-trump-country_us_5a449e8ae4b025f99e199ef8?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
― twas in the fleek midwinter (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 31 December 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
That's funny. I've actually never heard the term "Cletus Safari," which I like almost I much as I liked the Idaho militia people getting tagged Y'all Qaeda.
Have we had an actually helpful piece on all the supporters apparently changing their mind, as reflecting in the polls that show how far even his numbers have dropped over the last year? Or maybe that gets filed under those pieces I've scanned where people like him but don't support him or support him but don't like him or don't like or support him but still want to give him some time.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 December 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
Cletus safari was invented here iirc?
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
It wasn’t nevermind
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
hello, hello, hello how lowwwwww
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
I thought you were humming "Hello" by the Beloved.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
all the supporters apparently changing their mind, as reflecting in the polls that show how far even his numbers have dropped over the last year
Those people exist but I don't think they can be located and interviewed.
Trump's approval declines because some of the people on the "Trump Train" were only on it because they reflexively vote Republican. They could stomach Trump (with whatever degree of enthusiasm) because they aren't capable of voting for Democrats at all (let alone for Clinton). People who voted for Trump a year ago and are now disappointed with him DO exist, but they're not the sort of people who are going to go talk to a reporter in a diner about it.
The Cletus Safari, always and everywhere, will only locate diehards, because those are the people who want to talk about it.
― twas in the fleek midwinter (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
YMP otm. On Friday night I was reminding my brother in law that Nixon still had well over a 20% approval rating on the day he left office. It was shamefully easy to find voters who insisted Watergate was a ginned-up partisan witch hunt over nothing, because "you know as well as I do that everyone does it, and it's no big deal".
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
New York "Failing" Times going hard at Trump, just spotted this in my inbox
NYTimes.com » TOP STORIESPresident Trump has brought a reality-show accessibility to a once-aloof office, invigorating voters who felt alienated by the establishmentSunday, December 31, 2017 2:11 PM EST
― omar little, Sunday, 31 December 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
I was reminding my brother in law that Nixon still had well over a 20% approval rating
yeah if 100% of the people that voted for him never back down that's a bottom floor of ~25% of the population. only about half the country voted at all and we are at a 20 year low in turnout because the two party system just keeps offering worse and worse candidates.
a general approval poll will include a whole bunch of people that didn't vote at all and thus only add statistical noise to the proverbial crystal ball. the two-party system deludes us into thinking half the country supports something when in reality even at his peak it was probably like 1 in 4 people. so not only are polls that ask about general approvals more or less meaningless they are misleading as well.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 31 December 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link
only about half the country voted at all and we are at a 20 year low in turnout because the two party system just keeps offering worse and worse candidates.
citation needed
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Sunday, 31 December 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link
"In 1984, Ronald Reagan debated Walter Mondale in Louisville and plainly had no idea where he was"
i lived in louisville for ten years, i can't blame reagan for this at all
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link
Actually, Turrican is right insofar as the Davis-Murray years go from 1976 to 1971. And only one album was recorded in Berlin.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link
Nice wrong thread response.
From 1976 to 1971?
― Mark G, Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link
Carlos Alomar for prez 2020
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link
Turrican / Gabbneb 2028
― El Tomboto, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:49 (six years ago) link
US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"
― maura, Monday, 1 January 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link