is the thing
― Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
you weren't kidding about that reddit front page...
― Evan, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
cats, sex and nazis.
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
DOW at -300 already, imagine if no taxes today
that's less than half of 1 percentage point, and it's already trending back to the morning's starting line
― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
impeachment isn't going to happen
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
xposter sorry, at the time it was more than 1. but it's currently back up to -0.40%. i don't know why i care, just a pet peeve
― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
MCCONNELL: "See, what we want you to do is to plead guilty to a perjury charge and testify against the President; this will attract all of the media attention and allow us to pass the tax bill with less scrutiny."FLYNN: "What's in it for me, though?"MCCONNELL: "I don't know, a pony?"FLYNN: "SOLD"
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
...this month? or ever?
it will never happen as long as the GOP has congressional majorities
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
Two Swiss accountswere in his name.Diverted fundsbut who's to blame?The time had cometo tell his tale.Here's what he saidT'stay out of jail:"
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
no disrespect to Shakey but yeah I'm not gonna buy any expert's opinions on what will never happen here let alone some rando internet poster
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
probably posted here yesterday, but ezra klein's piece about how we don't actually have a way of removing an obviously shitty president seems relevant:
https://www.vox.com/2017/11/30/16517022/impeachment-donald-trump
― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
Minor details!
.@kwelkernbc reported on NBC News a few minutes ago that she spoke with someone 'very close to the president' who describes the Flynn development as "very very bad," says there are significant concerns within Trump's inner circle about what Flynn might know and what he might say.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 1, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
lol did we link the CNN article here: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-charged/index.html
The White House said late Friday morning that "nothing about the guilty plea or the charge implicates anyone other than Mr. Flynn."The conclusion of this phase of the special counsel's work demonstrates again that the special counsel is moving with all deliberate speed and clears the way for a prompt and reasonable conclusion," Ty Cobb, a White House lawyer, said in a statement.White House allies initially tried to put a positive spin on the news.One person familiar with the mood in the West Wing insisted top White House officials were breathing a sigh of relief."People in the building are very happy," the source said. "This doesn't lead back to Trump in any way, shape or form." The source noted that Flynn is being charged for making false statements, but not for any improper actions during the campaign."This is a further indication that there's nothing there," the source said. "This is a win for the White House."A source with knowledge of the legal team's thinking tells CNN the Flynn plea "is not going to be a problem" for the President, though it could be a problem for people who worked with Flynn. The source said legal exposure for others would depend on what they might have said to the special counsel.A source who advises the administration on strategy said this was expected."Poor judgment. But this was expected. Trump fired him for lying to (Vice President Mike Pence). Of course, he lied to the FBI, too," the source said.And another source, who is close to Trump, attempted to downplay the severity of the charge against Flynn by noting that lying in Washington is not new. The source maintained that he was still not worried about any potential cooperation between Flynn and the prosecutors.
"The conclusion of this phase of the special counsel's work demonstrates again that the special counsel is moving with all deliberate speed and clears the way for a prompt and reasonable conclusion," Ty Cobb, a White House lawyer, said in a statement.
White House allies initially tried to put a positive spin on the news.
One person familiar with the mood in the West Wing insisted top White House officials were breathing a sigh of relief.
"People in the building are very happy," the source said. "This doesn't lead back to Trump in any way, shape or form." The source noted that Flynn is being charged for making false statements, but not for any improper actions during the campaign.
"This is a further indication that there's nothing there," the source said. "This is a win for the White House."
A source with knowledge of the legal team's thinking tells CNN the Flynn plea "is not going to be a problem" for the President, though it could be a problem for people who worked with Flynn. The source said legal exposure for others would depend on what they might have said to the special counsel.
A source who advises the administration on strategy said this was expected.
"Poor judgment. But this was expected. Trump fired him for lying to (Vice President Mike Pence). Of course, he lied to the FBI, too," the source said.
And another source, who is close to Trump, attempted to downplay the severity of the charge against Flynn by noting that lying in Washington is not new. The source maintained that he was still not worried about any potential cooperation between Flynn and the prosecutors.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
for real: not saying trump is on his way out this December by any means, but this is definitely a bad development for him, and it is pretty clear that he doesn't respond very well to intense criticism and pressure.
in other words, i hope he doesn't blow up the goddamn world on his way out
― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
agreed
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
how are the folks over at beetbort handling this i wonder
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Friday, December 1, 2017 12:11 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm. GOP will do everything they can to ignore or diminish this. they don't give a shit
― marcos, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
with an unexpectedly straight bat, weirdly, although the comments are naturally Very Good Content xp
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
in other news
http://www.statesman.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/democratic-dallas-county-sheriff-run-for-governor-reports-say/zCa0MimmHHFH9vzWrYdWWL/
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
every year the first is on a friday i offer a Deficit December oracle. here goes. Barack Hussein Obama will be a Supreme Court Justice some day after 2scoops is history
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
Democrats are breathing a sigh of relief that a not particularly impressive cop no one has heard (how many people even know their own sheriff much less that of another county) of is going to run, cool.
She might get steamrolled worse than Wendy Davis.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
yeah idk just seemed like an interesting development
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link
marcos, I guess because campaign and transition personnel may pretty much just be civilians talking out of their ass about nice synergies that may happen. After inauguration, these chuckleheads were in fact and in law part of the actual government of the nation. There are, as they say, rules.
― here come the warm jorts (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, December 1, 2017 11:58 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe i'm understanding this backwards, but wouldn't it be MORE inappropriate for a campaign to be communicating with a (hostile) foreign government than for a transition team to be reaching out to now-cemented diplomatic channels?
― evol j, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
barack obama will be the first chief judge in the newly-established mega city one after bringing justice to the cursed earth
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
i AM THE LAW
― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link
No Democrats in Texas believe anyone has a chance against Abbott. But it would be wrong not to run somebody inspiring at the top of the ticket, so this is a good choice. There are downticket races Democrats can win. Why Dems believe Beto can unseat Cruz is a more interesting question... that is unlikely but not impossible.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
now that i think about it trump’s cabinet appointment process isn’t far off judge cal’shttps://78.media.tumblr.com/3c5bb95c088109be39d44329ed93b6e2/tumblr_n9tje2ngfe1th2zcvo1_500.png
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
wait... what?
“I am pleased to announce I will vote in support of the tax reform bill,” Flake said in a statement. He said he’d secured leadership support for priorities related to expensing and to a solution for immigrants brought illegally to this country as children.
this bill is just a total hodgepodge at this point
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
I have 'secured support for priorities' fuckin' a jeff well done
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
flake by name...
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
flake jeff flake >:(
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
whoever said upthread that all of this is just an excuse for these scum to pose as "serious thinkers weighing important issues" - you were right.
― sleeve, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
(in the previous thread, I mean)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcKtEUUg4Qa/
― Evan, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
lol is that real ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
can we get comey on the ‘moral arc of the universe’ thread pls
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
that was me sleeve :)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/key-issue-in-flynn-plea-deal
The key question out of the Flynn plea agreement is the identity of the person referenced as a “senior official of the Presidential Transition Team” and another termed a “very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team”....The ‘very’ in “very senior member” seems like an almost over the top effort to convey just who it was the prosecutors are talking about. It’s hard to see that that is not either Pence or President Trump, though it also strikes me as perhaps a bit too coy to refer to the incoming President as a member of transition team....The clear takeaway is that basically all of Trump’s top advisors, including the President and almost certainly Vice President Pence, were in the loop about these calls even if they did not themselves speak to Flynn directly.Who are these people, the “senior official” and the “very senior official” I doubt we’ll have to wait long to find out.
...The ‘very’ in “very senior member” seems like an almost over the top effort to convey just who it was the prosecutors are talking about. It’s hard to see that that is not either Pence or President Trump, though it also strikes me as perhaps a bit too coy to refer to the incoming President as a member of transition team.
...The clear takeaway is that basically all of Trump’s top advisors, including the President and almost certainly Vice President Pence, were in the loop about these calls even if they did not themselves speak to Flynn directly.
Who are these people, the “senior official” and the “very senior official” I doubt we’ll have to wait long to find out.
pretty obvious implications based upon the plea deal and the statement, but still very surreal
― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
the guy on the right used taxpayer money to settle a sexual harassment scandal https://t.co/5Dc4DF3alD pic.twitter.com/fZXdcpBQUH— Rex Santus (@rexsantus) December 1, 2017
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
looks like it is kushner?
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-01/kushner-is-said-to-have-ordered-flynn-to-contact-russia
― marcos, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
looks like this handy cut-out-and-keep guide to russian collusion might come in handy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP-wzWMX0AEYLoq?format=jpg
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
cool, clear as mud
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
can't wait till this affair helps bring down the massively important *squints* jaren frishner
― Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
Prosecutors stated Flynn was directed to engage the Russians on 12/29/16 by donald’s national security transition team.Senator Tom Cotton was on that team. The same Tom Cotton who rabidly defended Mike Flynn.The same Tom Cotton about to be nominated as CIA Director.— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) December 1, 2017
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
Meanwhile right-wingers are all like "HELLO? reaching out to foreign powers was his JOB, that's NORMAL, that's what an incoming administration is SUPPOSED to do; if Trump hadn't done that, the media would be all like 'he's not prepared!'."
― here come the warm jorts (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
― Evan, Friday, December 1, 2017 1:02 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
crazy how everyone who escapes from this shitpile of a government (Comey/Boehner/Obama) seems to have the time of their lives
― voodoo chili, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
there's like three people Flynn could have possibly flipped on, I don't see how this leads to anyone other than Trump himself honestly
― frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
Other right-wing lines:
"It's called DIPLOMACY! you fuckheads" etc. etc.
Then shifting to "man, that Obama admin official..."
Or, best, "well now that he's an admitted liar, nothing Flynn says can be taken seriously now! The first question will be 'did you admit to lying' / 'yes' / 'okay so why should be believe anything you say now?'."
― here come the warm jorts (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
Re: Tom Cotton "about to be nominated as CIA director",
despite being reported by NYT and elsewhere last night as something that is happening, it's not clear at all that Pompeo > State / Cotton > CIA / Tillerson > Ducktales Silo filled with Gold is a real thing or ongoing process.
― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link