US Politics, December 2017: I guess there’s always 2018

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Alright. As long as this isn’t the final “deal.” Bc handing over dissidents for cash is reprehensible and he should be held accountable.

New Jersey (treeship 2), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

The deal ain't over or set in stone until he's sentenced.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

have 'secured support for priorities' fuckin' a jeff well done

I would simply point out that jeff 'the flake' flake is a republican. he's just more of a bush republican than a trump republican.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

Y'know, it's easy to gloat, but I think it's kind of beautiful General Flynn is flipping because he knows his son @mflynnJR is too weak for prison. That's the heartwarming lesson I take out of this.

— John Rogers (@jonrog1) December 1, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

BREAKING: Jared Kushner is the "very senior member" of Trump transition mentioned in Michael Flynn guilty plea, NBC News has learned. https://t.co/zry8ksiZr0

— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) December 1, 2017

gbx, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

soooo....Ivanka's gonna be single

frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

Twitter silence finally broken, glad to see he's addressing the elephant in the room

The media has been speculating that I fired Rex Tillerson or that he would be leaving soon - FAKE NEWS! He’s not leaving and while we disagree on certain subjects, (I call the final shots) we work well together and America is highly respected again!https://t.co/FrqiPLFJ1E

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 1, 2017

"I call the final shots" would've been an excellent December thread title...mods, make it happen

frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

Jared Kushner is the "very senior member" of Trump transition mentioned in Michael Flynn guilty plea

fleas are hard to kill. fingertip pressure is not nearly enough. it is best to crush them between two hard surfaces, such as between one's fingernails.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

Opportunity missed.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

Speaking of Flynn Jr. he suddenly posted this

Family is the most important thing in life.....don’t ever take yours for granted. Thanks everyone for the support. pic.twitter.com/gVEilG9Dde

— 🇺🇸MFLYNNJR🇺🇸 (@mflynnJR) December 1, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

Opportunity missed.

More likely delayed.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

never forget -- i call the final shots

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

I don't want to be a downer but impending passage of tax bill is worse news than Flynn plea is good news.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

You may disagree if you choose but I call the final shots

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

deficits don't matter, whatever happens

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

i don't think that's lost on anybody in this thread xxp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

I don't want to be a downer but impending passage of tax bill is worse news than Flynn plea is good news.

on the plus side, a bunch of GOP Reps will lose their seats if they just vote "yes" on the Senate bill

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

all I want for Christmas is impeachment.

even 2019 is a long shot, junior

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

yup

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

2022, who knows?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

Yeah at this point it's less about the vote today as the attempts at reconciliation. Which could happen but I suspect it won't happen the way anyone in the GOP wants.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

More likely delayed.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, December 1, 2017 3:20 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha -- I meant thread title. Should have xposted

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

99/ This, then, is the key *political*—rather than legal—debate of our moment and perhaps our time: conservatives trying to squeeze as much political value as possible out of a presidency that will end in not just disgrace but public acceptance as the worst America has ever seen.

— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) December 1, 2017


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looool been seeing a lot of folks sharing this thread, a friend retweeted part NINETY-NINE gtfo (then i see he goes to 100 and has a bunch of PS tweets). a while back i followed and then unfollowed abramson faster than i think i have w/ anyone

marcos, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

At least Mariotti keeps his fairly short and specific.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

we've been through this with him, he's awful

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

imagine if you could post short essays in full length on the internet, instead of having to break them up into several dozen tweets.

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

mariotti is pretty good imo xp

marcos, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

yeah sorry I meant Abramson, idk Mariotti

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

a presidency that will end in not just disgrace but public acceptance as the worst America has ever seen.


abramson’s out of his fucking gourd if he thinks the chuds are just gonna roll over and be like ‘whoops, worst president ever!’ instead of doubling down on the worst elements of the last couple of years

genie’s out of the bottle and he’s not going back in anytime soon

hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

xps

reconciliation is definitely the last opportunity for the tax bill to lose its legs. I think Ryan has more flexibility to lose votes than McConnell does, so the Senate version is likely to be very little modified coming out of reconciliation. of course, that's when the freedom caucus will see its chance to collect some pelts. but in the end it all comes down to just counting and recounting votes, and none of us will see the real sausage making in action.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

he thinks the chuds are just gonna roll over and be like ‘whoops, worst president ever!’

they did with Dubya, they'll do it again

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

the GOP went from worshiping Bush to denouncing him as a deficit-busting heretic the moment his approval ratings dipped below thirty percent. The GOP will read Trump out of the party as an aberration in a few years too.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

but, oh, those few years...

here come the warm jorts (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

everyone should tweet HAPPY HOLIDAYS to DT and fam

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

if he thinks the chuds are just gonna roll over and be like ‘whoops, worst president ever!’

I think there was at least one element of the voters who thought, this trump guy seems damned iffy, but he sure talks big and sounds confident. I don't know. maybe he can deliver or maybe he's really as bad as he looks, but I'm willing to roll the dice on him. at least he's not Hillary.

That slice, even if it was only 5% of his total vote, was enough to elect him. I expect they are getting sick and tired of winning by now and it can only go downhill from here.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

and Hillary isn't running again in 2020.. (or so I am lead to believe)

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 December 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

She's stated as much, anyway.

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

I have hardcore lefties/Bernie-ites who have actually told me we can't run another woman (much less a non-white woman) against Trump in 2020 :(

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

the implication being that it *has* to be an old white guy if we want to "win back" those "swing" voters

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

those ppl are idiots

gbx, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

hardcore lefties and bernard brothers are two different sets of folks

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

I think Abramson is a nutcase and I'm for sure not gonna read his latest extrusion but tweet #99 above seems pretty much right to me!

Lots of people loved Nixon right up until the end and thought he was getting railroaded by the Commies and the Jews. It doesn't seem at all nuts to me to imagine Trump universally understood as a disgrace ten years from now.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 1 December 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

but yeah whoever said that is dumb obviously

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

hardcore lefties/Bernie-ites who have actually told me we can't run another woman (much less a non-white woman) against Trump

and they are all political savants, amirite?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 December 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

nah, just the Cult of Bernie

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of bernard brothers would be perfectly happy to back warren

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

Trump would love to run against Warren

which I take as a bad omen

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

maybe whoever runs shouldn't be 70

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 1 December 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

yup

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

"I have hardcore lefties/Bernie-ites who have actually told me we can't run another woman (much less a non-white woman) against Trump in 2020 :(

― Οὖτις, Friday, December 1, 2017 9:05 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the implication being that it *has* to be an old white guy if we want to "win back" those "swing" voters"

yes those people are idiots. it's not about getting votes from a shrinking demographic (stupid old white men in the rust belt states), it's about energizing the demographic that elected Obama, which is largely female, largely multicultural, and largely urban. They're the ones who weren't excited by Hilary.

akm, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link


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