people are blaming NYPR chair Laura Walker for Lopate and Schwartz, but given how long they've been there, we don't know when the alleged offenses occurred.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
ugh at lopate, really unhappy to hear that
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
It’s gross af that Time put a sexual predator in the runners-up, while naming victims of sexual predation as person of the year
― just1n3, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
the list isn't influenced by morality, did you notice there's also a despotic dictator in the runners up
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
So fucking what?? It’s stull fucking gross
― just1n3, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link
ok
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
It is gross, and it was even grosser when they actually named him person of the year in 2016. No publicity is bad publicity.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
I can't believe this conversation happens every year when Time releases their Person of the Year. Hitler was Person of the Year in 1938. it's not a moral judgment, it's an objective call on who or what influenced the news & the culture & the world the most in that year. if the floodgates hadn't opened after Weinstein, it would've been Trump again, no one comes close.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
Sorry the world sucks, don't blame Time
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
maybe they could name Hitler POTY every year, just as a reminder
― crüt, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link
Yeah, we understand the intent. The problem is that Trump and probably a good many of his fans just see a magazine cover naming him person of the year and thing 'awesome'.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
thing think
Shaaaaaame on you, shameless person we're putting on the cover of our magazine! We hope you feel duly chastised!
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
yeah let's accommodate idiots more, good call
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
Yeah that's what I'm arguing, good reading comprehension.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link
Even having it read "person" of the year would go over their heads
― Evan, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
changing a century old tradition to accommodate Trump and MAGA idiots really would stick it to them huh
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
I don't think "accommodate" means what you think it means and holding onto a tradition for the sake of tradition is foolish.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
accommodate as in to adjust to the stupidity of people that misunderstand the concept. i agree that traditions shouldn't be continued simply because they're old, but i see no issue with Time's POTY protocol. it's a reflection of the world, good bad and everything in between.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link
yes maybe if the intent is easily misunderstood it reflects a poor journalistic practice
― sciatica, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link
that Yes was a xpost to DJP
I don't think it loses anything by being renamed to "newsmaker of the year" or whatever
― Simon H., Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
^agreed on that. not the name I'm wedded to, I'm a fan of the concept.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
that's better than "King of the News" which was going to be my suggestion
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
^Check Out This Person, Whoa!
― sciatica, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link
The tradition comes from a time when the subject in question could be reasonably expected to understand whether being named person of the year was a good thing or a bad thing. Like how we all knew it was a bad thing that one time we were collectively commemorated as the living human population of the planet earth.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
i name all of us Successfully Anonymous People of the Year
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
XXL's Freshman Newsmaker Class
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
it's all a bit of a cheat anyway: "person of the year" doesn't mean "newsmaker of the year" either - it's a title chosen conferred for how well the person emblematizes major news event(s) while still being a saleable cover star. otherwise clearly Osama bin Laden (or Harvey Weinstein himself) would have been given the designation.
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
Franken back on SNL w/in 2 years?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
Lopate "baffled." No details on allegations.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/06/media/leonard-lopate-jonathan-schwartz-wnyc/index.html
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link
Lopate?!
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link
― Simon H., Wednesday, December 6, 2017 2:57 PM (fifty-five minutes ago)
you guys will love MVP debates on ILH/ILB
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
BREAK: Lorin Stein, the editor of the Paris Review, has resigned amid an investigation into his conduct with women https://t.co/mUELfZ9ai5— Sydney Ember (@melbournecoal) December 6, 2017
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
omg are the bad literary men going to start toppling??? can't wait.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
Oof. They all fall down.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
The board’s decision to review Mr. Stein’s behavior came after he informed board members that his name had appeared on a list created after the Harvey Weinstein scandal to anonymously crowdsource allegations of harassment and misconduct by men in publishing and media.
can you imag this meeting?
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link
franken will resign tomorrow, apparently
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
I wish he would cling for his political life and fite
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
why
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
This was quite good on these 'confusing' times.
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2017/12/where_is_the_line_between_office_flirtation_and_sexual_harassment.html
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 22:05 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
posts, and the preposterous posters who post them
― imago, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
xp that article is a bit long-winded but not a bad story
― Nhex, Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link
― imago, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 11:11 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTFM. Many posters here crying wolf about Franken. A person who harassed a woman. And the "such a shame, gud sentor, wish e'd fight!" posts are legion. Merely because they liked him as a politician/never expected it from him/such a shame/good guy/boy didna mean no 'arm.
Yeah, this is part of the problem people.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link
yeehaw wahoo git r done am i rite fellers
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link
The question isn't "Why are Democrats acquiescing?" It's "Let's pulverize the GOP over this in the next year."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link
How are you not still banned? xp
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link
posters have "forcibly tried" to ban me, it's true
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link
xp Same thing. Dems can, and should, pulverize the GOP without Al fucking Franken. It's up for grabs. There's a GOP monkey in the white house. It's on a silver platter, for the taking. You don't need a harasser to accomplish this great feat. A better monkey should suffice.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link
I wish he would cling for his political life and fite― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:05 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkwhy― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:51 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:05 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:51 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sarcasm, sorry to disappoint.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link