there's an ilx post i think of sometimes that's along the lines of "any attitude beyond total apathy produces hypocrisy"
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
Hypocrisy is like the factory setting for human beings. We're basically walking talking self-mythologizing cognitive dissonance machines by default.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link
Walt Whitman had some words for this i think
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
XP disagree but then we prob know different humans
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
kinda wish Ernie Kovacs drank more moderately on the night he crashed the car
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
all the greats were alkies
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
xxpost By default, I says. You can always pry open the control panel and futz with the settings but that takes (deeeeeeep siiiiiiiiigh) effort.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
harmless contradictions are fine
makes things interesting
like saying i love potato fries then ordering sweet potato waffle fries
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
I think adolescents care a great deal about hypocrisy, and adults just care about what gets done? But that's probably my own bias.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
Otm
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
I guess in one sense it's better to know what's right and not do it then to not know what's right and not do it. I think the badness of hypocrisy has something to do with its undermining your position to make moral demands on other people. If you make a moral demand on others that you're not willing to satisfy yourself, then you're basically contradicting the demand.
― jmm, Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
Do as I say, not as I do!
In his essay about Lynch, DFW swears up and down that the neighbor at the end of Blue Velvet actually eats a bug immediately after broadcasting her disgust about a bird eating a bug. If true, it's probably the canniest observation of human behavior in cinema history.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
Nobody has any right to make moral demands on another
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
apologize for that immediately
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
fuck you your hat is horrible sorry
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzgtLXa57i0
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
80% of 'hypocrisy' is just things being different. 'How can you be against the death penalty when you eat meat?' Stuff like that.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
that isn't hypocrisy, that's a poor misreading of what hypocrisy is by the person that utters it
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
yep
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
Even nihilists look both ways before crossing the street.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
"some communists RATM are, they accept payment for their CDs!"
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
FWIW, I feel like most of the rampant hypocrisy that people are engaged in almost all of the time is nothing catastrophic. It's mostly like: my self-perception is not a wholly accurate reflection of my engagement with the world. It's just important imo to be aware that these things will always be at least a little out of sync and to always be tweaking.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Most things are nothing catastrophic fyi
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
Thank u, I have updated my i
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
Shoots finger gun, winks, makes click noise
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
I guess in one sense it's better to know what's right and not do it then to not know what's right and not do it.I think there's a solid case to be made that the former is worse than the latter!
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
I guess in one sense it's better to know what's right and not do it then to not know what's right and not do it.
Björk is unlistenable
― flappy bird, Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
I don't want to listen to her but I suppose other people do.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link
not many people feel that way(at least i'm keeping with spirit of thread)
― fuiud, mac (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
you should actually believe it.oops n/m
― fuiud, mac (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
Fucken millennials, man, I tell ya. Not enough soaring WHOOOAAAA-OHHHH-OHHH-OHHHHHS and autotuning for you, I suppose. When I was your age, etc.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
dude millennials love Björk
― flappy bird, Thursday, 7 December 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
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FB'd
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
bjork is really good but agree w/ 'unlistenable'
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
There are some moments where I love her but I'll admit that it's a struggle for me to get through a bjork album :(
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link
I want to listen to her but my ears stop working whenever she's on.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link
I am willing to forgive police officers involved in fatal shootings of unarmed people if they admit their culpability, face reasonable consequences for their actions, don't attempt to blame the victims of their actions, and the victims' families forgive them.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
waistcoats are shit. they're twee formal gilets, the apotheosis of try-hard retrograde Gentleman's Fashion. they're basically steampunk.
― ogmor, Friday, 8 December 2017 12:35 (six years ago) link
Occasionally used to wear them when I was younger and didn't look like a twat. I think Dr. Feelgood pulled it off though.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 8 December 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link
i made the error of buying one with a jacket a few years ago. if i think of it just as a jacket accessory it's tolerable but the idea of wearing it by itself is revolting
― ogmor, Friday, 8 December 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link
handy for snooker
― after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 December 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link
I think I still have some left over from a time when I worked in lots of different offices as a roving consultant. I didn't always know whether I was going into a formal business-wear situation, a casual creative one, or a mix of the two.
If I wore a suit (or nice separates) and tie, I'd be overdressed among graphic designers and IT nerds. But if I wore a polo and chinos I'd be underdressed among finance and BD/sales. Vest (with or without tie) could go either way.
Nowadays I wear the t-shirt I slept in and work over Skype, so my grownup clothes wait in a closet for the next funeral.
― didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link
just caught myself browsing "john virgo waistcoat" on GIS, imagined what someone wld think of me if they glanced at my phone, and decided to stage an intervention on myself
― ogmor, Friday, 8 December 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link
"john virgo waistcoat"
good lord why subject yourself to that
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 December 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link
inexplicably fond childhood memories of big break
― ogmor, Friday, 8 December 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTQzZGYyYzAtNmMxMC00MTg2LTg4Y2UtZmJmYWFlNGUwMDgwXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTgxOTIzNzk@._V1_.jpg
I do too, Ogmor.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 December 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link
Did you guys know he has an app and is planning to open a vegan restaurant
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 December 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link
how does he not have his own line, he's missing a trick
― ogmor, Friday, 8 December 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
No! Did read somewhere both Virgo and Thorne lost tens of thousands in gambling. Thorne is ruined iirc. xp
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 December 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link