the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

especially when it dawns on them that the DUP are now the unlikely defenders of the single market

think i said upthread that may's throughline is playing the DUP off against the brexit ultras, a fact that possibly only dawned in no.10 in the cold light of tue morn

she is only a tiny way further through imo, with much dawning to endure

It makes clear the whole of the UK, including Northern Ireland, will be leaving the customs union.

It leaves unclear how an open border will be achieved but says in the absence of a later agreement, the UK will ensure “full alignment” with the rules of the customs union and single market that uphold the Good Friday agreement.

i... huh

it is right out in plain public sight bcz this is the age of the internet but tbf a lot of historical agreements have hinged on similarly baffling ambiguities and contradictory can-kicking

think i said upthread that may's throughline is playing the DUP off against the brexit ultras, a fact that possibly only dawned in no.10 in the cold light of tue morn

she is only a tiny way further through imo, with much dawning to endure

reading myles this morning is helping (when doesn’t it)

“At present it is impossible to say more but an official spokesman stated that it is ‘not unlikely’ that the ESB and the sugar-beer people will be approached not to secure their co-operation but with a view to securing their co-operation in this vital industry”

do you mean playing them off because of their fear of PENNYCORBS, mark?

Ah the esb and the sugar beets

That came out sharp upthread fizzles sozzles

i think PENNYCORBS IS BAD NOT GOOD is a point of agreement so that's probably a bad lever to tug on

the good lever is WHO IS THE MOST STUBBORN IN THE LAND

good from this very particular POV i mean, in every other context it's probably as terrible as ever

.....which land

i guess fear of pennycorbs from both dup and hardcore brexit shitlads strengthens her hand tho?

Likes: unionism in its many forms.
Dislikes: being reminded that we're all in it together with them (for a wide variety of thems).

"the land" usefully unclear in this instance, further precision wrecks all

i've sat here for thinking abt an answer to LG's q and this best i can come up with is, fear of PC is what's keeping her in office, so yes in that narrow sense

i don't think there's any sense it which it makes her hand easier to play: she is going to end up giving away at least one of several farms, possibly more

minutes that could have been spent writing sentences in english, yes

.....which land

DUP most stubborn in the universe so question is redundant.

"this is the kingdom of not, which while it is not, yet is"

as sun ra teaches us

Sun Ra couldn't teach anything to these tin-eared infidels, only the gulags will teach them *something*.

brexit is finally getting good

Sun Ra couldn't teach anything to these tin-eared infidels, only the gulags will teach them *something*.

Couple of Sun Ra titles did pop into my head, "We'll Wait For You" and "They'll Come Back".

The Nu Plebians of Brexitia

The Eurosceptic Worlds of Sun Ra

I don't really understand what the detail of this agreement actually means and but it feels like a fudge to me. The general aim seems to be to cleave as closely to the existing situation as possible while pretending the exact opposite? In which case the howls of betrayal from Tory Brexit ultras should be due any minute now.

It's an Irish solution to a British problem

I can see it suiting everyone tbh

Just accidentally clicked on Torygraph piece with Farage going ham on May. The fading pay-walled tedious and angry words reminded me of that amusing comment that it creates the visual effect of walking away from the pub bore.

"Nope, its the monarch that is supreme." <- a line I've just read

Is that with cheese and ham or is that with mushroom sauce I can never remember

arron banks also squeaking angrily

I look forward to hearing Arron Banks squeaking from a prison cell some day.

This is the first time since the election that I've actually sought out Farage's opinion. Watching him pissing his pants is hugely entertaining.

On the other hand it really does hammer home the extent to which these fuckers are never going to be satisfied.

am i misremembering, or was there a large semi-dodgy handover of actual cash from some shadowy brexiter to the DUP election fund? if so that was money well spent, lol

Expecting leave EU lot (their twitter was hilarious when I had a quick look) to be begging Brexiteers to get a leadership challenge going.

Tory backbenchers are going to have to suck it up. Otherwise you get Corbyn. They have nowhere to go.

Ummmm ... don’t read too much into this: pic.twitter.com/muMCDt7dKL

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) December 8, 2017

Arron Banks retweeting people pleading with him to set up a new party of the right - just one investment of a few million could make all the difference.

they could call it union of kingmakers in perpetuity except wait

The King beyond the G8

Yes that is a reference to a David Gemmell fantasy from 1985

all our pasts are coming back to haunt us

Reporter on BBC trying to explain trade deals outside the USA by talking about 'cheap chickens' - which he quickly regretted when he found out how difficult it is to keep saying 'cheap chickens'.

... outside the EU, not the USA, that's cholrinated cheap chickens.

Kentuckyfied chicken

yummy, it tastes swimming baths water.

I could imagine (with echoes of Gummer Sr) Gove forcing his children to drink some chlorine for the cameras.

My God, he has children.

I hope not tbh.

it's impressive what you can grow in a vat nowadays

lol!

Yes, Gove has kids - proof he’s fucked Sarah Vine at least thrice.

In every old sci fi movie ever. "For the sake of humanity, whatever you do, don't let them reproduce!"