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buttoning a shirt to the top button w/ a tie is extremely uncomfortable

― marcos, Friday, December 8, 2017 1:53 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hard agree on this one + it's not necessary.

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

if it was socially feasible i wd just wear some kind of robe or dashiki/baggy pants combo all the time

just get a ankh medallion and some mirror shades with circular lenses to go with that outfit and you'll be set

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

this isn't a controversial opinion but people that wear short sleeve button up patterned shirts with the top button buttoned w/ no tie are all narcs

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

xp

lol i said socially feasible, i just wish i felt comfortable feeling comfortable in public

best display name of 2017 (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Controp: wearing shorts to work is fine.

.oO (silby), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

this isn't a controversial opinion but people that wear short sleeve button up patterned shirts with the top button buttoned w/ no tie are all narcs

or they are 90s hip-hop heads; are they also wearing overalls?

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

these are all Mac DeMarco clones ime. denim jacket, formless baseball cap, vans, skinny jeans, marlboro reds

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

OR high-water slacks

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

i hate shirts w/ full length sleeves i always roll my cuffs up even when dressing up in a suit. i think this is a sensory related thing? but it's basically why i almost always wear t-shirts. i just can't stand to have fabric (and even worse tight buttoned cuffs on my wrist) on my forearms ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mordy, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

that is unique

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

Do you roll up the sleeves of the suit jacket, too? (please say yes)

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

no lol

Mordy, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

aw

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

i always assume rolled up suit sleeves would be the opposite of comfortable

best display name of 2017 (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

the shirt sleeves you mean? if you do it sloppily they'll bunch up under the suit and a) look weird and b) feel weird but the shirt is light enough you can fold the cuffs easily up to your elbow and it's fine

Mordy, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

the sartorial revelations itt are... distressing

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

xps i'm similar with the sensory thing... i'm a shorts-year-round guy for this reason. don't like the feeling of pants flapping around my ankles.

new noise, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

oh my god

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

i force myself to care about clothing bc i know ppl judge you based on what you wear but personally speaking i do not care about sartorial choices at all i want to feel as comfortable as possible

Mordy, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

these are all Mac DeMarco clones ime. denim jacket, formless baseball cap, vans, skinny jeans, marlboro reds

― flappy bird, Friday, December 8, 2017 11:02 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my ottawa senators hat is formless. i dont like wearing it bc i do feel like im giving off mac vibes especially if im in a town that rly knows him

infinity (∞), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

xps i'm similar with the sensory thing... i'm a shorts-year-round guy for this reason. don't like the feeling of pants flapping around my ankles.

I see

https://m.popkey.co/88908e/87wQl.gif

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

xp that is shorts all the time when appropriate. i know how to dress properly when needed.

new noise, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

also does anyone rrroll up the rrrim to win

infinity (∞), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

DJP is right about ties btw. If your shirt fits, a tie will not constrict you any more than the shirt does (which ideally is not at all).

IMO if you are willing to wear a t-shirt that goes around your neck but is still comfortable, you can also wear a dress shirt that goes around your neck but is still comfortable.

Going further, if you can wear jeans, you can wear equally structured pants of other descriptions. If you can wear a well-fitting leather jacket without feeling like it is constricting, you can wear an equally well-fitted sportcoat without finding it constricting.

Perhaps because modern people dress up less often, they are often wearing dressier clothes that just don't fit right. (Side effect of parents being understandably thrifty about dress clothes when they were children?) Or maybe it's just a moralizing hangup where we think if an outfit is for nicer occasions, then it should be less comfortable because Eat Your Vegetables or whatever.

Of course, I say all this and I think I'm still wearing the henley I slept in, with probably at least one child's mucus on it somewhere. Plus some barbecue sauce from lunch. I hope it's at least TODAY's lunch.

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

the shorts thing (besides being on an airplane) is just confusing to me because i am always cold & have to wear 8 layers in the winter. i don't think i even own a pair of shorts besides some cutoffs that are way too short and uh, precarious to wear in public. but hey i dont have central air

xp i feel you. it sucks when something you've worn or done for years suddenly becomes trendy and/or associated with someone and then you're lumped into this reductive caricature

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

anyway fall through spring I'm wearing leggings these days, I wear shorts over them at work because uhhhh idk trying to keep my gender more subdued at the office I guess

.oO (silby), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

Perhaps because modern people dress up less often, they are often wearing dressier clothes that just don't fit right. (Side effect of parents being understandably thrifty about dress clothes when they were children?) Or maybe it's just a moralizing hangup where we think if an outfit is for nicer occasions, then it should be less comfortable because Eat Your Vegetables or whatever.

this is otm, because people wear nicer clothes less often, they don't know how to buy nice clothes or find comfortable clothes. it's an involved process and it's easy to get swindled by department store drones. but it's easy to piece together a faux "suit" by just getting pieces from different places. you should feel comfortable in these clothes. i feel more comfortable in jackets & shirts bc 1) looks good 2) makes me feel good 3) comfortable

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

I wear a tie every day, but I only own three ties. I also wear button-down collars (which I know ILX had opinions about) and either a blazer/jacket of brown velvet, elbow-patchy navy corduro, dark wool, or a pale gray synthetic fabric. When it gets cold, I’ll add a v-neck sweater.

You really don’t need many clothes. Americans especially are weird about owning large closets full of shitty clothes! I have five shirts, five blazers/jackets, five trousers, five sweaters. Capsule wardrobe is the way to go!

rb (soda), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

but tbh i've been wearing turtlenecks and cardigans and sweaters the past few years in the autumn & winter

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

soda otm, i have 5 shirts, 2 blazers, 2 pairs of slacks, 2 belts.

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

and 2 pairs of white loafers

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

soda's wardrobe strategy is a good one imo

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

I've never understood owning more than one belt at a given time

Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

also for the past, what decade or so a lot of tight-fitting suits w/short jackets have been pretty heavily marketed, so I'm guessing a lot of people *are* uncomfortable in them.

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chinavision!, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

clothes are bullshit
it's fun to work from home

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

I've never understood owning more than one belt at a given time

― Simon H., Friday, December 8, 2017 2:21 PM (thirteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha i have had the same belt since 2003

marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

i got one of those loop belts a year ago bc the belt i had been using for ~10 years was starting to break although it's still going

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

clothes are super fun and are one of the main reasons I even remotely enjoy leaving the house and going to work

chinavision!, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

ties are also amazing - magic combination multipliers for a few basic garments

chinavision!, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

hell yeah otmx2

flappy bird, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

You can own one belt if it is brown/black reversible.

Brown belt goes with earth tones and brown shoes:

Blue jacket, tan pants
Green tweed jacket, tan pants
Blue-grey tweed jacket, blue pants
Brown jacket, olive pants
Blue jacket, olive pants
Tan jacket, brown pants

Black belt goes with neutral tones and black shoes:

Blue jacket, grey pants
Grey jacket, black pants
Black jacket, grey pants
Black jacket, blue pants

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

I once knew 4 seasons shorts guy and he was a hero to me. And I don't mean bought at a fancy hotel

fuiud, mac (rip van wanko), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

but I also get that clothes are not so fun for everyone - can't really make a controversial opinion out of this. I guess I think clothes *could* be more fun for more people, but are somehow presented as intimidating or insidery or something? and lots of people who talk about clothes seem to like insulting people.

chinavision!, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

http://i40.tinypic.com/2sayueo.jpg

rb (soda), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

clothes are fun i just like casual clothes more

marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

Feeling NV on this one. I'd go everywhere swaddled in a blanket if the world were run by cool people.

All this 'just get seven pairs of 1000 thread count slacks, three gold leaf vests, twelve and a half pairs of bespoke koala skin loafers, and fourteen faux silk Columbian neckties and you're set' nonsense is exhausting to just read. I have enough presentable shirts to get me through a week of work. Done.

Oiled Launch (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

Black jacket, blue pants

ehhhhhhh

Evan, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

This is a super interesting article re: style. I suppose it is broadly a challop, but it is deep in pointing to snobberies is the wealthy/urban

rb (soda), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

buy whatever clothes you like and look however you want (my controp there)

however i do believe in dressing for the occasion

infinity (∞), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

Most of my garments are at least threadbare or frayed or full-on holey or have like a bleach spot or two and I'm like who caaaaares. Yes, I have a 'blazer' and a 'suit jacket' and nice-ish 'black dress shoes' and they sit in my closet collecting dust until a funeral or a fancy birthday party rolls around.

Oiled Launch (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link


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