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the shirt sleeves you mean? if you do it sloppily they'll bunch up under the suit and a) look weird and b) feel weird but the shirt is light enough you can fold the cuffs easily up to your elbow and it's fine

the sartorial revelations itt are... distressing

xps i'm similar with the sensory thing... i'm a shorts-year-round guy for this reason. don't like the feeling of pants flapping around my ankles.

oh my god

i force myself to care about clothing bc i know ppl judge you based on what you wear but personally speaking i do not care about sartorial choices at all i want to feel as comfortable as possible

these are all Mac DeMarco clones ime. denim jacket, formless baseball cap, vans, skinny jeans, marlboro reds

― flappy bird, Friday, December 8, 2017 11:02 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my ottawa senators hat is formless. i dont like wearing it bc i do feel like im giving off mac vibes especially if im in a town that rly knows him

xps i'm similar with the sensory thing... i'm a shorts-year-round guy for this reason. don't like the feeling of pants flapping around my ankles.

I see

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xp that is shorts all the time when appropriate. i know how to dress properly when needed.

also does anyone rrroll up the rrrim to win

DJP is right about ties btw. If your shirt fits, a tie will not constrict you any more than the shirt does (which ideally is not at all).

IMO if you are willing to wear a t-shirt that goes around your neck but is still comfortable, you can also wear a dress shirt that goes around your neck but is still comfortable.

Going further, if you can wear jeans, you can wear equally structured pants of other descriptions. If you can wear a well-fitting leather jacket without feeling like it is constricting, you can wear an equally well-fitted sportcoat without finding it constricting.

Perhaps because modern people dress up less often, they are often wearing dressier clothes that just don't fit right. (Side effect of parents being understandably thrifty about dress clothes when they were children?) Or maybe it's just a moralizing hangup where we think if an outfit is for nicer occasions, then it should be less comfortable because Eat Your Vegetables or whatever.

Of course, I say all this and I think I'm still wearing the henley I slept in, with probably at least one child's mucus on it somewhere. Plus some barbecue sauce from lunch. I hope it's at least TODAY's lunch.

the shorts thing (besides being on an airplane) is just confusing to me because i am always cold & have to wear 8 layers in the winter. i don't think i even own a pair of shorts besides some cutoffs that are way too short and uh, precarious to wear in public. but hey i dont have central air

xp i feel you. it sucks when something you've worn or done for years suddenly becomes trendy and/or associated with someone and then you're lumped into this reductive caricature

anyway fall through spring I'm wearing leggings these days, I wear shorts over them at work because uhhhh idk trying to keep my gender more subdued at the office I guess

Perhaps because modern people dress up less often, they are often wearing dressier clothes that just don't fit right. (Side effect of parents being understandably thrifty about dress clothes when they were children?) Or maybe it's just a moralizing hangup where we think if an outfit is for nicer occasions, then it should be less comfortable because Eat Your Vegetables or whatever.

this is otm, because people wear nicer clothes less often, they don't know how to buy nice clothes or find comfortable clothes. it's an involved process and it's easy to get swindled by department store drones. but it's easy to piece together a faux "suit" by just getting pieces from different places. you should feel comfortable in these clothes. i feel more comfortable in jackets & shirts bc 1) looks good 2) makes me feel good 3) comfortable

I wear a tie every day, but I only own three ties. I also wear button-down collars (which I know ILX had opinions about) and either a blazer/jacket of brown velvet, elbow-patchy navy corduro, dark wool, or a pale gray synthetic fabric. When it gets cold, I’ll add a v-neck sweater.

You really don’t need many clothes. Americans especially are weird about owning large closets full of shitty clothes! I have five shirts, five blazers/jackets, five trousers, five sweaters. Capsule wardrobe is the way to go!

but tbh i've been wearing turtlenecks and cardigans and sweaters the past few years in the autumn & winter

soda otm, i have 5 shirts, 2 blazers, 2 pairs of slacks, 2 belts.

and 2 pairs of white loafers

soda's wardrobe strategy is a good one imo

I've never understood owning more than one belt at a given time

also for the past, what decade or so a lot of tight-fitting suits w/short jackets have been pretty heavily marketed, so I'm guessing a lot of people *are* uncomfortable in them.

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clothes are bullshit
it's fun to work from home

I've never understood owning more than one belt at a given time

― Simon H., Friday, December 8, 2017 2:21 PM (thirteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha i have had the same belt since 2003

i got one of those loop belts a year ago bc the belt i had been using for ~10 years was starting to break although it's still going

clothes are super fun and are one of the main reasons I even remotely enjoy leaving the house and going to work

ties are also amazing - magic combination multipliers for a few basic garments

hell yeah otmx2

You can own one belt if it is brown/black reversible.

Brown belt goes with earth tones and brown shoes:

Blue jacket, tan pants
Green tweed jacket, tan pants
Blue-grey tweed jacket, blue pants
Brown jacket, olive pants
Blue jacket, olive pants
Tan jacket, brown pants

Black belt goes with neutral tones and black shoes:

Blue jacket, grey pants
Grey jacket, black pants
Black jacket, grey pants
Black jacket, blue pants

I once knew 4 seasons shorts guy and he was a hero to me. And I don't mean bought at a fancy hotel

but I also get that clothes are not so fun for everyone - can't really make a controversial opinion out of this. I guess I think clothes *could* be more fun for more people, but are somehow presented as intimidating or insidery or something? and lots of people who talk about clothes seem to like insulting people.

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clothes are fun i just like casual clothes more

Feeling NV on this one. I'd go everywhere swaddled in a blanket if the world were run by cool people.

All this 'just get seven pairs of 1000 thread count slacks, three gold leaf vests, twelve and a half pairs of bespoke koala skin loafers, and fourteen faux silk Columbian neckties and you're set' nonsense is exhausting to just read. I have enough presentable shirts to get me through a week of work. Done.

Black jacket, blue pants

ehhhhhhh

This is a super interesting article re: style. I suppose it is broadly a challop, but it is deep in pointing to snobberies is the wealthy/urban

buy whatever clothes you like and look however you want (my controp there)

however i do believe in dressing for the occasion

Most of my garments are at least threadbare or frayed or full-on holey or have like a bleach spot or two and I'm like who caaaaares. Yes, I have a 'blazer' and a 'suit jacket' and nice-ish 'black dress shoes' and they sit in my closet collecting dust until a funeral or a fancy birthday party rolls around.

I came of age during the grunge era, whaddaya want from me.

so you only wear them in life or death situations

controversial opinion:

i actually enjoy Diners, Drive Ins and Dives more than any Anthony Bourdain show

I mean also if you don't like wearing a suit then you're never going to look good in a suit... but if you're guy fieri you're going to *own* those shorts and that bowling shirt

chinavision otm; I regard all these "shoulds" as an opportunity for fun and variation and self-expression and, basically, joy. I feel good when I'm dressed appropriately for a situation. But I don't like it when ppl use it as a cudgel to put others down; that's not about fun and joy.

When I am in a situation where I get/need to dress up, I regard each day's choice of tie (or whatever) as a pleasing romp, an opportunity to inject some color and life into the day.

If someone regards clothes as a prison and dressing up as a horrid cliff of discomfort and risk and socioeconomic/class anxiety, I empathize with them. I wish it could be a place of fun for them too.

i may buy this, dont' outbid me
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1949-King-Features-Mens-Neck-Tie-Cartoon-Snuffy-Smith-Buy-It-Now/112604748687

it's a "buy it now" dude

never mind, bought it.

ymp otm

dunno if i'll ever wear it but i imagine it will be great for my funeral

ILX has a shorts all year dude!!1!

Just saw one of these specimens at the grocery store. He was waiting a hail storm out near the door to get back out there... Shorts all year people scare me and make me irrationally angry.

does the anger subside in direct proportion to the length of the shorts or are there peaks and valleys?

i actually enjoy Diners, Drive Ins and Dives more than any Anthony Bourdain show

Co-sign, actually

That Snuffy Smith tie is amazing!