But Will There Be Corgis? Thread Where We Discuss Netflix's THE CROWN

"also enjoying what a monster they've made the queen mum"

erm.. good work by the writers there. I'm just being a churl, tempted to start this tonight tbh.

Turkish websites are there for those of us who CBA with Netflix.

God save the torrent sitez! We need them for leeching from the parasitic overlords that make dramatic content about .. nevermind.

I like the rich period detail in this so far, it goes beyond budgets and eye candy - it is very artfully evocative in a way that many modern period dramas that have pissed away similar budgets are not imo. But saying that, some of the Eden administration stuff is a bit sketchy and undercooked, but I'd probably prefer a drama that concentrated wholly on that side of the story in the same fashion.

Matt Smith's performance in the scene where they celebrate Margaret's engagement is A+. I laughed out loud.

ok lol at the la ronde-style sequence of bed scenes and the UNEXPECTED REVEAL

love the way the private secretaries are required essentially to be MENTATS

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(lascelles is btw meant to be 73: he is looking VERY good on it)

wait whut: tony armstrong jones also er stepping out with jackie chan and robin banks

this ceremony takes place a month and a day before i arrived in the world (for some reason they fail to mention that)

Got to the bit where current 'stache guy is made to shave. The 'stache is dead, long live the 'stache.

Felt genuinely sorry for him when he got told off because of the speech. Poor Michael. Or whatever his name is.

michael adeane

that whole thing where Phillip is made Prince was funny/infuriating ... is there truth to that?

like basically the show plays it that Phillip wants a HAT and a TITLE because he cant lad it up with the beardos on boats anymore & that’s how he’ll go along to get along

Matt Smith is v good at playing petulant and/or grumpy Phillip - it’s so convincing that i want to backhand him lol

oops Philip not Phillip etc

i think the only totally made-up thing so far is churchill's comely secretary who died in the great fog, but there's clearly been quite a lot of speculation behind the scenes re motivation

Dying at "lad it up with the beardos," thanks VG.

This season weirdly obsessed with facial hair and its discontents

i just looked this up and as well as duke of edinburgh he is apparently BARON GREENWICH

The Evil Baron Greenwich.

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the motivation of Snowdon marrying Margaret boiling down to “NOW look at me Mummy” meanwhile Mum’s all “sure” explains a lot about how that marriage played out - shit turned real nasty between him & Margaret after a while

i read years ago that he would slip “I hate you” notes in books she was reading

magz on the rebound from pete townshend not helping

foy and kirby are good as sisters, with this confrontation particularly strong: e2r powerless to get margaret to see past the good sex to the likely problem and margaret chilling on e2r's decision to be invisible in plain sight

magz on the rebound from pete townshend not helping

Snowden was a substitute for another guy.

tommy* can you hear me

*lascelles

yeah Foy & Kirby are killing it
you can almost see the miasma of unspoken ~feelings~ hanging over their heads whenever they are in a scene together, such great performances

*tiny little b&w TV fuzzes up*
*queen mum jumps up and bangs it vigorously on the side*
e2r: "no! mummy! it's RENTED!"

POTUS DEXTER :D

could just be the presence of qyburn making me think this but this ep is the most GoT to date

"it's just air!"

and here's the sinister osteopath >:)

Dexter's accent is inexplicably bad. Dude there are lots of tapes and films of Kennedy speaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhHUbAPQ47E

good god President Dexter was hilariously awful

JFK trolling, more like a young Mayor Quimby
the only thing decent was his teeth and even then he barely had a good smile! and since when was he dark haired?

and poor Jackie had some thirsty, dollar-store looking hair

wow, Micheal C Hall is so bad he should be cast-rationed. Lol xps! at least he nailed Quimby. But It is a very jarring performance to say the fucking least. Ep 8 never recovered from that awfulness at all.

yeah like when JFK is assassinated in-show you’re like O THANK GOD the less we see of him the better

i did really love the final moment between Lizzie & Jackie though, and her mixed regrets over maintaining the high ground. idk, just in terms of succesful women navigating each other & the complexities that insecuruty brings

and claire foy, man when she hears the insults firsthand and her eyes fill with tears but she doesn’t buckle. killed me.

i never thought anything about Charles could reduce me to tears but here I am, end of ep 9, blubbering like a baby. god that was a hellish, troubling story. for both Phillip & Charles!

Welp, all done

Standing ovation, jolly good show old chaps.

Complexity in spades! jfc

Aw, I'll miss Foy 'n' Smith's knockabout antics. Will also particularly miss Vanessa Kirby.

They made bolder storytelling moves in the second season - starting in the middle of something then backing up several months, interleaving flashbacks, etc.

i never thought I'd lust after princess margaret but here i am

do you think william and kate and harry and megan sit around and watch this show and howl with laughter?

i wonder that too!

whole family sits in front of the telly like bacon's screaming pope iirc

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I kept getting distracted by how much Claire Foy looks like Parker Posey in this.

Who's next to play Philip? Capaldi?

i love this show but the jfk/jackie o episode was maybe the worst one of all. i like michael c hall but his jfk was awful and his performance was just weird, and the jackie o performance was bizarre too, and she confessed all of their intimate secrets to elizabeth at like their second meeting ever???

So many things about that ep made exactly no sense. Both Kennedys were socially savvy and well-prepared by staff; they would not have Billy-Bobbed into the palace and started talking about their bowels.

I mean, if the point you want to make is "Americans are brash and informal while Britishes are polite and reserved," there's like a zillion other examples you could use.

LBJ probably woulda wiped his ass with a corgi and called Nehru "boy."