going to stop checking thread until tomorrow evening, but hoping for more lols along the line of “That’s not how the force works!”
― mh, Friday, 15 December 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link
Well I laughed out loud at least a dozen times. The audience also applauded about that same number of times at specific moments. Shit delivers.
There are a couple of real shocks in this I didn't see coming at all at least not at the moment they did. And one particular moment you can see coming maybe a minute or two before it does but was still jaw-dropping (it happens in space...sort of...).
My only real ish is with the ending and there are a few red herrings before it but it felt oddly conclusive - nothing like ESB in its final act.
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link
A lot of stuff happens, none of it really matters though
― Number None, Friday, 15 December 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link
Does *anything* matter
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 December 2017 01:18 (six years ago) link
No one I’ve read yet seems to have spotted the (MILD TECHNICAL SPOILER) shot that very cleverly references the tracking shot from the party scene in WINGS yet. Thought it was cute.
― piscesx, Friday, 15 December 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link
yes JV, you should watch Sacred Deer, it's amazing it was even released in a country as humorless as America.
best in the series btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kJkhEcQ44k
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 December 2017 02:18 (six years ago) link
This is an odd beast. Contains probably an equal amount of amazing and cringeworthy moments. Shakes up the formula somewhat, which I appreciated. Guaranteed to piss off nerdboys (a mark in its favor).
― The Spilling of a Sacred Beer (latebloomer), Friday, 15 December 2017 03:47 (six years ago) link
this was maybe 2% better than TFA
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link
some interesting stuff on the periphery and a few arresting images, but also a *lot* of dreck.
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 04:43 (six years ago) link
Wheeeeeemore tomorrow
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 05:13 (six years ago) link
For now, I’ll just say I’m incredibly stoked for Rian Johnson’s trilogy in this universe, whatever that ends up being.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 05:57 (six years ago) link
Some could make the argument that this is just an expensive, intentionally weird exercise in confounding expectations while playing an old popular song backwards, and they wouldn’t be wrong, but they would definitely be missing the point.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link
not nearly weird enough imo
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 06:31 (six years ago) link
i liked it. I particularly liked the *spoiler* ironing the jacket shot.
― akm, Friday, 15 December 2017 06:40 (six years ago) link
" the party scene in WINGS yet"
what wings? the sitcom?
― akm, Friday, 15 December 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link
steven weber shucks with lightsaber?
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 15 December 2017 07:00 (six years ago) link
^^ lol yes that was fantastic
I really liked it, even if it suffered somewhat from Return of the King syndrome, and often it felt like Kyle Ren made decisions just to make them. It wore its emotions on its sleeves a lot more than any other SW film (though some of this might be residual sadness about Carrie Fisher), and I keenly felt the hope and despair of the characters.
It's probably my favorite of the new school Star Wars movies, and I'm worried I'll get whiplash when the series returns to JJ Abrams' shaky hands
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 December 2017 07:00 (six years ago) link
Xps the ironing shot was fantastic I mean
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 December 2017 07:01 (six years ago) link
"It wore its emotions on its sleeves a lot more than any other SW film (though some of this might be residual sadness about Carrie Fisher)" you mean your sadness? because she wasn't dead when they made it obv
I do wonder if they second guessed any of this after she died. they've certainly set themselves up for a bit of a conundrum in movie 3 now.
― akm, Friday, 15 December 2017 07:09 (six years ago) link
Right, i was saying I might have been projecting my sadness about Carrie Fosher, not that there weren't many intentionally emotional moments in the movie itself
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 December 2017 07:20 (six years ago) link
I'm guessing this is the Wings tracking shot mentioned above?
https://giant.gfycat.com/VeneratedFluidGroundbeetle.gif
― nate woolls, Friday, 15 December 2017 08:41 (six years ago) link
https://youtu.be/d1H699088FI
― piscesx, Friday, 15 December 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link
yes that’s the one, Nate.
― piscesx, Friday, 15 December 2017 11:01 (six years ago) link
*SPOILER* The ironing shot was great - however a lot of the other humour seemed forced. And the "cute" Chewie sidekick that popped up multiple times really was a horrible idea.*SPOILER*
― finlay (fionnland), Friday, 15 December 2017 11:10 (six years ago) link
re: humor, some was OK, some felt like Joss Whedon punch-up type shit.
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 11:24 (six years ago) link
Saw it tonight with my daughters and just LOVED it. Could complain or critique but why, it was a huge fucking spectacle, funny, moving occasionally, irreverent, beautiful even. Simon you sound a little bitter.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 15 December 2017 11:28 (six years ago) link
fwiw there was no applause in my audience either except at the logo and dedication, so I don't think I was alone inn my nonplussedness
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link
Oh - well none at mine either, but we're Australians, we are a little reticent. Altho now you say it my crew seemed to enjoy it more than most.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 15 December 2017 11:46 (six years ago) link
if a tree falls in the forest...
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 December 2017 12:29 (six years ago) link
Saw it tonight with my daughters and just LOVED it. Could complain or critique but why, it was a huge fucking spectacle, funny, moving occasionally, irreverent, beautiful even.
This was basically our experience with our kids. They were super into it, and we were v entertained too. And there was a LOT of applause during the film at our screening.
I mean, narratively, the series just gets more and more ridiculous the more times they tell the exact same story (O NO REBEL ALLIANCE IS DOOMED/WAIT THERE'S A NEEDLESSLY COMPLICATED WAY TO SAVE THEM/NO WAIT, THEY'RE STILL DOOMED/BUT WAIT!...) But this one has a legitimately epic sweep, and I like this trilogy's cast. Even if their relatively high level of acting chops just highlights Hamill's hamminess.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 15 December 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link
hasn't he been doing the Joker voice for 30 years?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 December 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link
Gonna just *SPOILER* away now fuiud.
I would've liked more casino but mostly just because I like to look at all the different alien folk properly.
Phasma was wasted and should've appeared earlier in the film - hope she survived the drop...
The first full shot of Yoda immediately made me wish they'd gone back to a puppet but he looked better in all subsequent shots.
Shame in a way to have so little need for R2 in this.
Snoke (and his guards) just looked fantastic albeit DEAD SO SOON :O
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link
Well yes.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 15 December 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link
Guaranteed to piss off nerdboys (a mark in its favor).
How are we defining "nerdboys" here, because I'm a con-attending, toy-collecting saddo and I loved it. I especially love that prequel haters have to hear Luke Skywalker say the name "Darth Sidious" on screen AND lampshade the "actually the Jedi were arrogant fuckups" argument that Lucas made after Sith. (BTW I own that R2-D2 button down that HOOS posted and I wear it to the office often.)
Contra Richard Brody I think this was one of the most idiosyncratically directed SW movies! Not just things like the iron joke, but things like the Rashomon flashbacks involving Luke and Kylo Ren, the impressionistic flashes when Luke tells Rey to reach out with the Force, the pacing -- Tombot's description above "intentionally weird exercise in confounding expectations" is pretty accurate, but in a good way!!
Two specific expectation-confounding things I liked were rendering completely irrelevant the "Who is Snoke?" and "Who are Rey's parents?" questions.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link
Phil cited basically all of the things I liked, besides the lucid action staging/editing and all red everything.
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link
Also BTW does the Dixney/FOX deal mean Disney could put the Fox fanfare back at the front of these movies?
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link
I also like that the middle third of the movie was basically that episode of nu-BSG where the fleet keeps jumping every 33 minutes to try to stay ahead of the Cylons, except they couldn't even do that and had to remain just out of artillery range.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link
as i posted in the wrong thread -- not bad, but really wish it hadn't been super-over-duper-hyped as OMG BEST EVER
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
Yeah that was immediately reminiscent of BSG, loved it xp
Having the ground view of the Destroyers suddenly appear in the sky at the start...just one of countless great visuals I need to see again ASAP
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that was awesome. This statement from io9's spoiler-free review is a pretty decent summary statement:
From scene to scene Johnson is basically saying, “Look, if we can have talking slugs, laser swords, and lightspeed, why can’t I do this?” And then he does it.
And that's true for both good and bad. For every perhaps overly-broad comedy moment ("Could you put on a towel or something?") there's a scene like that or the Empire blithely destroying a medical frigate.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
"And the "cute" Chewie sidekick that popped up multiple times really was a horrible idea."
WTF you have no soul
― akm, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
I must also have no soul because by the eighteenth new species of big-eyed furry creature all I saw was dollar signs.
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
99% sure most of my theater started crying when Luke is on the Falcon and tells Artoo, "Nothing you can say is going to change my mind" and he starts playing Leia's message.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
Not me, obvs. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
"Could you put on a towel or something?"
She actually said "cowl" right? Legit LOL
The Porgs were pretty pointless - liked that they were nesting away in the Falcon though.
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
I believe it was "cowl", yes. xp
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link
Er, not an xp there.
The only wave of emotion I detected in my screening was during the Luke/Leia scene.
The porgs were a positively tiny presence compared to Ewoks or Gungans, marketing people gonna market but if you break down the screen time, you'll prob find about 5-10 minutes of porgs
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
Laura the Baller
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link