Yeah, that was awesome. This statement from io9's spoiler-free review is a pretty decent summary statement:
From scene to scene Johnson is basically saying, “Look, if we can have talking slugs, laser swords, and lightspeed, why can’t I do this?” And then he does it.
And that's true for both good and bad. For every perhaps overly-broad comedy moment ("Could you put on a towel or something?") there's a scene like that or the Empire blithely destroying a medical frigate.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
"And the "cute" Chewie sidekick that popped up multiple times really was a horrible idea."
WTF you have no soul
― akm, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
I must also have no soul because by the eighteenth new species of big-eyed furry creature all I saw was dollar signs.
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
99% sure most of my theater started crying when Luke is on the Falcon and tells Artoo, "Nothing you can say is going to change my mind" and he starts playing Leia's message.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
Not me, obvs. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
"Could you put on a towel or something?"
She actually said "cowl" right? Legit LOL
The Porgs were pretty pointless - liked that they were nesting away in the Falcon though.
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
I believe it was "cowl", yes. xp
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link
Er, not an xp there.
The only wave of emotion I detected in my screening was during the Luke/Leia scene.
The porgs were a positively tiny presence compared to Ewoks or Gungans, marketing people gonna market but if you break down the screen time, you'll prob find about 5-10 minutes of porgs
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
Two specific expectation-confounding things I liked were rendering completely irrelevant the "Who is Snoke?" and "Who are Rey's parents?" questions.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
Laura the Baller
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link
I was very confused as to why it took so long for the ramming to happen, did I miss something
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link
That light speed ship-split shot caused audible gasps
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link
"I must also have no soul because by the eighteenth new species of big-eyed furry creature all I saw was dollar signs."
you mean there is a consumerist toy driven aspect to the new star wars? heavens!
― akm, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link
Sure, but they really stuffed this one to the brim and then kept going.
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
An important lesson from this film is to never, ever follow a plan cooked up by Poe or Finn. Those two dipshit cowboys are basically responsible for 99% of the resistance deaths in this movie.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link
To the extent that it feels like a cop-out when Dern is like "I like him!"
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link
xxp to simon
they really didn't. compare it to ROTJ or the prequels
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
off the top of my head, the porgs, the horse things, the crystal dogs, and the little nun things were all on the cutesy end of new stuff. (if they market lactating toys of the teat creature we'll know they've hit the dregs)
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link
The Porgs and Vupltices (yes) could've at least helped in the fight. Porgs shitting on AT-AT windscreens while the Vulptices (YES) gnaw at their cables.
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
Those two dipshit cowboys are basically responsible for 99% of the resistance deaths in this movie.
Haha, yes, and if Admiral Laura Dern had just trusted in Poe to tell him her plan, Finn and Rose wouldn't have had to do any of the things they did. That's not QUITE Ebert's "idiot plotting," but it's close. Still, I liked Dern's character a lot.
I also liked that del Toro's character actually took the money and ran rather than having a last second change of heart. For a split second I thought that would be him in the AT-ST saving Finn and Rose.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
Benicio was the MVP for sure
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
Bit disappointed that BB-8 and its First Order counterpart didn't actually go one on one so let's book ten minutes of Ep in for that.
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
fingers crossed benicio is fleshed out in the han solo movies
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 December 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link
This is canon now pic.twitter.com/lNvPKp1iPH— Jackson McHenry (@McHenryJD) December 15, 2017
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
"fingers crossed benicio is fleshed out in the han solo movies"
is he supposed to have never aged? how would that even work
― akm, Friday, 15 December 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link
science fiction movies have magical makeup, costume, hair, and special effects sorcerers iirc
favorite image from the film (besides "Luke" facing down AT-ATs at dawn) is space wizard leia surviving the vacuum. tearjerking!
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 December 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
lmao I hated that scene so much and I'm not totally sure why
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
You know what I just realized is a very important choice that they made? Nobody gets their hand cut off in this movie. Thank you, Disney.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
Each SW director is allowed to choose either a hand removal or a bisection, but not both.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
*Shpoilers* I did like it a lot more than TFA. However, the only explanation I'll take for the Porgs is that Chewbacca took them as a sustainable source of meat on the Falcon. The Luke hologram sequence was bloody cool. However, like Simon I hated flying Leia...it felt very out of place in the sequence. The glossing over of Poe's coup attempt is ridiculous.
Things I probably thought too much about:
Are there not videorecorders in Snokes throne room? Or did the force disable them?
If a ship going at light-speed is so effective against Star Destroyers, why are there not kamikaze drone type ships? C3PO could also have taken one for the team instead of Dern and soulless old me wouldn't have cared.
Would they not physically inspect the gated cavern instead of trusting a schematic? These rebels are not smart enough to be worthy opposition to the First Order.
― finlay (fionnland), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
Also, as god is my witness, when the movie wiped to Rey and Luke for the first time, and he reached to take it, I was milliseconds away from leaning to my wife and saying "He's going to turn around and chuck it into the ocean angrily." Then I thought naaaah, no way. The actual choice was funnier.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
"it" = his lightsaber
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link
I think technically Snoke's hands were cut off...during the process of a wider sliceroo.
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
And if Luke shut himself off from the Force did that mean he was jumping on that big fishing stick with no manipulation? Impressive.
― finlay (fionnland), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
Did anyone else notice that the credits include a listing for John Williams's original song from Altman's The Long Goodbye? I'm assuming it appears in the Canto Bight scenes somewhere but I wouldn't have been listening for it.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link
LOL you guys this movie had both a space horse race AND a horseback chase scene in it. AND little ragamuffin space orphans.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link
I was so relieved the kids didn't have corkney accents.
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
oh god how I hated the adorable space orphans lol
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
controversial Luke lol i didn't mind: lightsabre river-chuckcontroversial Luke lol i did mind: wiping dirt off the shoulder at a crucially tense and emotional climactic moment
― piscesx, Friday, 15 December 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
otm
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
other good, possibly fan-bothering lol: Yoda says the Jedi books were not much cop; 'page turners, they were not'.
― piscesx, Friday, 15 December 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
Great lol:
"The odds against it are fifteen thousand, two hundred and forty -- "
"SHUT! UP!"
" . . . to one."
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
space wizard leia helps the audience cope with carrie fisher's death / sets rey up to take over for her as a surrogate daughter who brings jedi justice to ben
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
Another layer to this is how it seems like Johnson just decided to throw away everything from TFA he didn’t like. Snoke. Phasma. Kylo’s mask. By the end of this he’s boiled it down to the one big conflict that matters, taken the meaningless mysteries off the board, and raised the stakes by an order of magnitude
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
not reading the above right now, but don't you guys usually change over to a current thread once these genre OOH SPOILERZ things actually get released?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
I'm not sure how much credit RJ deserves for that / how free a hand he really had. xp
― Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
naw Morbs think we only had the one thread for Star Wars 7 shit talk
― nashwan, Friday, 15 December 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link
https://society6.com/product/our-blessed-rebel-queen-carrie-fisher_print?sku=s6-8248160p4a1v45
― El Tomboto, Friday, 15 December 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
nashwan steered us right into spoilertown and there's no turning back