US Politics, December 2017: I guess there’s always 2018

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I found pierce’s amateur attempts at medical diagnosis to be as silly as his asterisks

k3vin k., Friday, 29 December 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

as long as he keeps shouting at the right people I think his base will stay with him no matter what

frogbs, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

as long as he keeps shouting at the right people I think his base will stay with him no matter what

― frogbs,

well, Pierce is often a good writer, so why not?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

yah what was the asterisk thing?

i really don't know how to feel about the dementia stuff, instinctively feels like there might be something to it, but at the same time it feels really bullshitty as a topic for writers esp non medical ppl

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 December 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

trick ending:

djt: "no dementia, no dementia, YOU have dementia!"

*pierce reveals his own dementia, common to his family*

the asterisk is his oh-so-clever Not Really the President denialism

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 December 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

the dementia stuff is tricky because when it's brought up it doesn't feel like "concern" or serious analysis as much as it feels like needling or wishful thinking or trolling his followers. to me trump seems like a lot of older asshole dad types with zero intellectual curiosity whose brains have calcified into a fox news-fueled paranoia and bigotry.

omar little, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

dementia symptoms : brains have calcified into a fox news-fueled paranoia and bigotry

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 29 December 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

I think it's just in comparison to virtually every other current and past major office holder in every developed country that Trump appears to have dementia. But yeah if you just compare him to your average American male Fox News viewer in his 70s, the clinical dx fades away.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 29 December 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

saying prominent women look like "cows" is absolutely shitty and beneath ilx, imo

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Friday, 29 December 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

My dad eventually died of Alzheimer related issues, but before the dementia the first things to go were his senses, starting with his vision and subtle spacial perception, which first manifested itself ... by a weird resistance to books and reading. "Oh, the cat is on my lap, I can't reach my book," that sort of thing. Trump proudly does not read, and clearly has trouble with stairs, like my dad did. With my dad, the vision stuff went on for a couple of years before other things kicked in, like decreased hearing and then eventually a more familiar paranoid dementia. He eventually died of more or less dehydration, when his brain stopped telling him he was thirsty. I can only wish a similar end on this asshole.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

I have no clue what the symptoms of dementia are but I will say that the way Trump frequently repeats himself, blows past the interviewer's questions, and speaks in malformed sentences that make no sense out of context does remind me a lot of myself when I'm really drunk

frogbs, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

I believe "cow-with-an-aneurysm" it was confined to describing the look in her eyes, not other aspects of her person.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 December 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

the thing about "cow" as a sexist slur is that it's about denying personhood/consciousness/brain activity

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Friday, 29 December 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

I'm not gonna say trump definitely *doesn't* have dementia, my wife for one is convinced he does. I'm just not sure about a diagnosis based on his behavior.

omar little, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

i now realize that my real trick ending should have been that after fake-trump launches his "you have dementia" attack, 35% of americans incorrectly believe pierce has dementia, and fox demands and obtains his "retirement" for medical reasons from any employment, and gop wants investigations on any in press promoting the idea trump has dementia.

saying prominent women look like "cows" is absolutely shitty and beneath ilx, imo

I actually intended to specify that I wasn't making a fat joke, I was talking about the fact that she has abnormally large, bovine-looking eyes. This would be an example of the "cow-having-an-aneurysm" eyes I was talking about.

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/sarah-huckabee-sanders-800x430.jpg

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 29 December 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

please stop

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Friday, 29 December 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link

i now realize that my real trick ending should have been that after fake-trump launches his "you have dementia" attack, 35% of americans incorrectly believe pierce has dementia, and fox demands and obtains his "retirement" for medical reasons from any employment, and gop wants investigations on any in press promoting the idea trump has dementia.

― y'know, LIBS! libertarians, libertines, even liberians and librarians (Hunt3r),

cool movie bro

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

please stay OT

please stop

sanctimonious bullshit

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 29 December 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

ffs it's now off limits to liken someone's features to animals that in another context might be body shaming?

Is doe-eyed allowed?

Hadrian VIII, Friday, 29 December 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link

huckabeesanders is a horrible horrible horrible person
i think i'm doing this right

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 29 December 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

making fun of her for being boss-eyed *is* body shaming though, whether you make the cow comparison or not xp

soref, Friday, 29 December 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

ugh

Hadrian VIII, Friday, 29 December 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sen-gillibrand-urges-germany-back-nazi-jakiw-palij-article-1.3724744
^unsurprising that the feds aren't too engaged with extraditing this guy, gillibrand continuing to apple polish

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 29 December 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link

i also explicitly stated that my issue with "cow" was about denying women subjecthood, not with body-shaming. it's that too in many many cases obv. but nice of hadrian viii to make clear my actual statements are not important compared to a chance to defend shitty sexist discourse against the threat of becoming "off limits"

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Friday, 29 December 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

U all

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 29 December 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

Search warrant reportedly executed for Sheriff Clarke of Milwaukee e-mails, regarding a pretty audacious civil rights violation. I guess he got into an argument with someone on a plane, and when the plane landed Clark vindictively foisted his people on him?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link

NEW: According to federal court filing made public today, the FBI has executed a search warrant on an e-mail address associated with Trump surrogate and former sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. pic.twitter.com/Q0AdDqyAaP

— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 29, 2017

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link

MSNBC says its related to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adJxwWt4ij0

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link

In 1984, Ronald Reagan debated Walter Mondale in Louisville and plainly had no idea where he was

I just watched the first 10 minutes of that debate on youtube, and the disturbing thing is Reagan seems far more cognitively together, far better at putting a complicated sentence together than Trump has been in the past I don't know how many interviews. Although in the case of Trump, I'm still wondering whether it's dementia or just a case of being a complete moron

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 30 December 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link

why not both

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 30 December 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link

First debates are never good for the incumbent; they look distracted, respond defensively, and act irritably (think Obama, Bush II, Poppy too). Reagan only looks unusually ruffled in the second half.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link

Schmidt responds:

During our conversation in July, I learned the challenges this president poses in interviews. He can jump from an issue like the Russia investigation to a policy matter before going off on a tangent about something like his golf game. If you try to interrupt him, he often continues talking. Given this, I employed a strategy in which I asked questions about the most pressing issues of his presidency and then allowed him to talk.

Some readers criticized my approach, saying I should have asked more follow-up questions. I believed it was more important to continue to allow the president to speak and let people make their own judgments about his statements. It was the best way to learn as much as possible about the president’s mind-set and his views on issues like North Korea.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link

times now has a separate "fact check" piece on their own interview pointing out a number of the totally false statements made by the president. i guess putting this information in the publication of the interview itself is just too complicated.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link

just watched a bit of the Reagan/Mondale debate, he's super on point compared to Trump

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

that debate is Lincoln-Douglas compared to the last dozen years. Mondale was pretty damn good, very far from a fuddy-dudd.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

tbf, that "getting the interview" essay probably revealed more of the president than the interview itself.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

btw, the lot-drawing to break the legislative tie in Virginny is BACK ON!

also the Admin has dropped its attempt to block trans troops, at least for now.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

Hello.

So the “coffee boy” whose main qualification was Model UN effectively sparked the entire Russia investigation. Just incredible. https://t.co/9ah69w4NpV?amp=1

— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) December 30, 2017

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

greeks and their big mouths

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

Hilarious.

Don’t go drinking with Australians unless you’ve been practicing.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

there is something poignant in the air about the older man with the real hair who served with distinction as a marine taking down the posterboy for silverspoon assholes with the fake hair

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-offered-publicly-signals-long-year-ahead/story?id=52049373

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link

Mueller killed kids for lbj huh

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

bsab so eat your own

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

Mr. Papadopoulos, then an ambitious 28-year-old from Chicago

Had no idea he was from here. Wonder if there is a connection with that crazy Chicago freelancer who was reportedly working with a Russian cutout to get dirt on Clinton, and then later killed himself?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link

false alarm. still hillary's / dem's fault

http://img.fark.net/images/cache/full/C/CW/fark_CWajSdlOMxhHohe-R7V9hLApKaM.jpg?t=CxUzcfkXE-YE7SBVXcxmiQ&f=1514782800

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link


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