Star Wars 8 shit talk

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tombot with the block

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link

she was rose sleazebaganno for less then 30 seconds ffs

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link

tom lolzblockanno

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link

Han? Leia? Not everyday names to me. Dunno who Bubba is. Django is Jango but I’ll take it. But Rose just sounds like lazy DGAF writing.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link

“Leia” seems like a variation of “Leah” which is a perfectly ordinary name.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link

"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."

some of their names may sound like some of ours but it's just coincidence

mark s, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

Like...really? Obi-Wan goes by Ben in ANH, there's Luke, Luke's uncle is named Owen, all kindsa common names in the uni

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link

Lucas got the names for the main trio of heroes while at a bar overhearing a dude defending his gf: "look if you lay a hand on her..."

Better than asking his 4 yr old or whoever for prequel names.

omar little, Monday, 1 January 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link

prequel names do include a Ric, another Ben, and an Evan iirc but yeah overall it's a syllable dartboard disaster over there

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 January 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link

More real people should be named after verbs. Wedge, Bail, Mace.

El Tomboto, Monday, 1 January 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link

porkins

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 January 2018 07:01 (six years ago) link

Biggs

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 January 2018 07:19 (six years ago) link

god dammit I'm sure I remember making some kind of actual point about "plucky sidekick Rose" back there

attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 1 January 2018 07:55 (six years ago) link

I can't find where I posted the original Darth Icky story :(

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 January 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link

Star Wars 7 shit talk

mark s, Monday, 1 January 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

But then a phantom menace struck. George Lucas would periodically check in on the status of the games his company was making, lending creative input and advice. The developer I talked to sighs, and agitatedly says, “In one viewing of Fracture, [Lucas] said it looked really good, but he didn’t like [Mason Briggs’] name. We’re like, ‘What do you mean, George?’ He responded to the effect of, ‘It doesn’t really fit. When he jumps on stuff, he moves pretty fast. I like B.J. Dart.’

dying

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Monday, 1 January 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link

TS: BJ Dart vs. Jet Brody

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 January 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

Meantime, more on roast Porgs and how to get green milk (that creature wasn't CGI, it turns out)

http://collider.com/the-last-jedi-neal-scanlan-interview/#porgs-caretakers-fathiers-vulptex-crystal-foxes

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 January 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link

might go see this again today, expecting to have a contented, enjoyable DC-like second viewing experience

k3vin k., Monday, 1 January 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link

better than cgi recreation of carrie fisher in a film not yet made how abt cgi removal of ewan macgregor from three films that have been

mark s, Monday, 1 January 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

Movie would have been way better if Rose had been played by Awkwafina. Or if she'd played any part, really.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 1 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

i remember the shiver of naive optimism i felt when told that macgregor was to play obi-wan. 'wow, nothing is sacred - and that's a good thing!' is what i thought, or something along those lines. everything was yet to play for. it could have all turned out so differently.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

there is no film he isn't the worst thing in

(i am watching attack of the clones for the first time to test this thesis)

mark s, Monday, 1 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

You may find your thesis tested.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 January 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link

"Rose" as a name bothered me a little too. It's not that it's ordinary sounding, it's that it's specifically earthly. Though millennium "falcon" has always had some inexplicable pass on the same issue, so I guess I'll get over it.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 1 January 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link

they can cgi out c3po while they're at it

mark s, Monday, 1 January 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link

Falcon, an earthy word, highly unlike the never once used or heard millennium.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 January 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link

lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 January 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link

they should cgi out every character and just have a bunch of sets, it'll be like garfield minus garfield

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 January 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link

that would actually be pretty easy since at least in 2 and 3 everybody was cgi'ed into the environments in the first place. would be kind of amazing. with the swipes swapped for dissolves it'd look like you were watching someone playing Myst.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 00:11 (six years ago) link

one BILLLLLLLLLLLLLION dollars

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link

Anyway, I liked both of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8-6whswEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFfMN6lPnlA

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 04:42 (six years ago) link

they are both probably better than the film

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link

finally saw this, and didn't hate it. Still deciding if I liked it... I had some gripes, as far as too many obvious references to lines or actions in the original trilogy, and too many out-of-nowhere rescues or close calls, but I also thought that the tone of it, and "feel", were pretty good. It felt very much a "Star wars story", if not yet something that totally connects it to the originals for me. But I could see that happening if IX is good. I kind of wish Rian Johnson was doing that too, because it seemed like he got the SW style better than JJ Abrams.

Dominique, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

In the ext installment, Bea Arthur returns as CGI only , reprising her role as cantina master, but reveling she is the chosen one

If this shit is canon then so is the wookie special dammit!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzXKySxPFCI

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

sick burn

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link

The studious are throwing so much money at stupid ideas with untested directors it's insane.

I think the motivativation for this is deliberate. The only other film class I took was one on the Bond series, and the TA made the point that the Broccolis kept changing directors and picking ones without much of a directoral style(Guy Hamilton was the closest to a Bond auteur) to maintain the series as producer-driven, not director.

Similarly, the producers & the studio grab indie directors with maybe one or two breakout films to their credit and saddle them with a massive blockbuster franchise as to retain all the power. You put a person not used to dealing with a $250m budget and endless studio notes and producer fuckery and maybe they can’t call the shots as much. Hell, this sort of happened on Return of the Jedi, didn’t it, since Scorcese & Lynch passed up the directing chair.

Sometimes you get directors who can handle the weight with aplomb(James Gunn, Taika Waititi), and plenty times not(Trevorrow, the dude from Chronicle). The untested choices are a feature, not a bug.

I think it’s a different scale from what happened with 70-80s directors as the industry has changed. Lucas/Spielberg/DePalma/Carpenter/Raimi/Cameron/Bigelow had the more traditional ramp-up.

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

I think the examples of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are instructive - both directors brought on by Lucas so he could concentrate on running the effects sequences which were naturally going to be a huge portion of the movie. So basically there to do the "actor stuff." One has a much stronger visual sensibility and a knack for working with actors and that film, apart from having a much better script and more interesting story, is regarded as a classic; its actory scenes are all among its most iconic shots. The other has taken a lot of hits over the years and with a couple exceptions the actory scenes are at best serviceable-looking.

Feel like something similar might be apparent in the contemporary blockbuster world, where most of what you see onscreen is the work of those pages and pages of computer-effects people in the end credits, and the movies sort of stand or fall on whether what's in between the effects shots is at all memorable or just kind of flat and lifeless to look at.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

It's honestly baffling to me to see Facebook threads from friends-of-friends who like TFA, but HATE this movie. I definitely prefer TLJ (felt more alive, more surprising choices, etc) but they weren't wildly dissimilar experiences. Can't decide if they're basic, or if I am.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link

i'm increasingly worried that audiences who grew up imprinted by the prequels are going to start demanding kylo slaughter the force-sensitive cleaning crew kids while soliloquizing about sand because to them, that's what star wars is really about.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link

"That's what Star Wars is all about, Charlie Brown."

*cue Vince Guaraldi arrangement of the main theme*

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

xxpost They're basic.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

I get why you'd try and find the next Gunn / Watiti debut, but once you're down to hiring the director of A Royal Affair there's too many wannabe franchises and not enough directors suited for them. And not enough other possibilities for a director who should be out there making tasteful mid budget pap. He used to be quite good at that.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

Basic as hell

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link

As far as not being wildly dissimilar experiences, the gripes I don't get:

*People who liked TFA and hated TLJ for "how it ruined Luke's character". Like, his self-imposed exile was part of The Force Awakens. It's pretty obvious he didn't leave to gain secret mega-Jedi knowledge so he could fly back and kick ass later. The only bait and switch with this movie is we were meant to think he'd eventually train Rey and rejoin the fight, and he technically does both, just not in the way that we expected.

*People who say "the force doesn't work like that" as if there's ever been a manual that consistently explains what it can be used for. for all we know Jedis use the force to take quicker shits too.

*People who focused excessively on plot holes but loved the OG trilogy. I rewatched the original trilogy this weekend and while the impact of these films haven't dimmed in the least, I did find myself wondering a) why nobody ever seems to be required to use a keycard on Imperial bases, thus meaning all it takes to get into any access point is beating a soldier up and stealing his uniform, b) why it's so easy to dupe Imperial guards by merely hiding in the ship and beating them up when they walk by, c) why Vader goes through the rigmarole of freezing Han purely "to test the cryofreeze process" so they can freeze Luke for his visit to the Emperor, when he really doesn't seem to have any intention of freezing Luke since he is simultaneously trying to kill him or convert him to overthrow the emperor with him, and d) why Vader's team merely deactivated the hyperdrive rather than just making the ship outright inoperable or rigging it w/ a bomb or something. why? cos who cares, that's why!

People who disliked TFA and disliked this one, at least that's internally consistent.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link

The one thing I expected to maybe happen was based on Rey looking down into the water below the island and seeing the submerged X-wing, then later mentioning Luke having abandoned the force. Thought he'd get it together and raise his X-wing out of the water via the force and fly to battle. In ESB Yoda raised it up, so it might have been a nice way to call back to that scene.

Instead he did yoga on a rock. That's ok though bc I'm sure that fighter was waterlogged and fully non-operational.

omar little, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 00:16 (six years ago) link

My co-worker got the impression that Luke was dead / projecting himself during *the entire movie* and not just during the Kylo Ren showdown. Did others get this impression?

calstars, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 00:19 (six years ago) link

Only the porgs are alive. Everyone else is dead.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link


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