US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

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As Nate Silver points out, the excerpt never establishes that Trump didn't want to win, and also plays fast and loose with polls - only outlier polls showed Trump down 12, the worst average was 6-7, and that was after the convention bounce. Basically, it sounds about as believable picture of the Trump campaign as Shattered was of the Clinton campaign.

I'm still definitely reading it, though :)

Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link

fwiw

for no reason whatsoever, just remembered this passage from michelle cottle's profile of wolff in 2004 https://t.co/9JMwBbuYqT pic.twitter.com/D5GQw60AYH

— brad plumer (@bradplumer) January 3, 2018

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

Yeah. But come on, you're reading it as well, Simon :)

Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link

However fictional Wolff's specifics may be, an accidental Trump win has always made much more sense to me on many many levels. Trump may have convinced himself after the fact that this is what he wanted, but I very much doubt this was how he was planning to spend the next 4-??? years prior to election night.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

I honestly don't find the inner workings of the Trump White House all that fascinating xp

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

xpost

i was about to say, certain parts like

“I’ll call him,” said Ailes. “But Trump would jump through hoops for Rupert. Like for Putin. Sucks up and shits down. I just worry about who’s jerking whose chain.”

sound like something written by robert reich

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

Old Lunch otm. It's hardly believable Trump willingly chose the route of having to divert and divest his own business emporium (unless, as stated, he was clueless yet again and didn't even know this was required). Not that he's really divesting or letting go but ykwim

I find it entirely believable however that they just let Wolff in one day, and he became the hobo-lives-in-airport-for-a-year, where he became one of the 'gang' with no one even questioning it.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

yeah, this is why the russia stuff makes way more sense to me as a bunch of career grifters looking to cash in however they can before their meal ticket gets his ass handed to him rather than putin's grand masterplan to undermine american democracy (xp to old lunch)

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

JUST IN: President Trump statement on Steve Bannon: "When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind." pic.twitter.com/LxZoBI5Ng4

— NBC News (@NBCNews) January 3, 2018

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

putin's grand masterplan to undermine american democracy haha well he didn't have to exert much effort to do what he did , these guys were willing miscreants .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link

oh damn lol xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

Huh, didn't realize Bannon was responsible for making Sessions the AG, Mr. President.

What a bugfuck lunatic.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

OK, so now we reverse engineer Trump's statement based on the "every word is an obvious lie and literally the opposite of the truth" theory that's served us so well the last 13 months and...

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

Can't wait to see how this low-rent Vader vs. Palpatine battle turns out. Hopefully very much like the original.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link

I'd put all of my worldly possessions in hock for front-row seats to watch Bannon throw Trump down a shaft just before croaking himself.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link

bannon already looks like vader when he takes his helmet off tbf

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

wowowow

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

Force-choke Trump with coke.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link

this white house had a lot of coffee boys didn't it?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

i mean none of these people did anything , it was just Trump and his huge brain making it all happen

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

i'm still incredulous that there isn't anyone in the approval chain who just says "no"/gets fired over balls-out-bonkers statements like this one

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link

whatever the truth, high five to Wolff for eliciting that response

omar little, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

Lol at that statement. Btw, they definitely called Trump for comments yesterday, and that's why he ranted even more than usual.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

i wonder if anyone's still editing these statements? that last one seemed to be directly from trump.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link

bannon has openly speculated about running for office himself iirc.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

xpost whoops big hoos made the same point! crazy.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

that + whatever he knows makes him dangerous, but probably this is kabuki to drive breitbart page impressions and to feed trump's ego. he'll be back in with trump soon.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

My god.

pic.twitter.com/683UJFlKL4

— Team Mitch (@Team_Mitch) January 3, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

Team McConnell so happy it is putting emojis in press releases pic.twitter.com/PMVcKUdDX9

— Brent Scher (@BrentScher) January 3, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

Breitbart commenter: "This is just two alpha-males, going at it."

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) January 3, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link

Wow, Just looked at the comments section on Breitbart. Wow. When Bannon has lost Breitbart, he’s left with . . . umm, nothing.

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) January 3, 2018

haw haw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

"This is just two alpha-males, going at it."

― mookieproof, Wednesday, January 3, 2018 11:18 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

brief description on an xtube video too iirc

omar little, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link

where is the Mooch when we need him most ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

definitely not face-down in a giant pile of cocaine iirc

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link

definitely not trying to suck his own cock

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link

I said what I said in the Summer take out the expletives and pay closer attention. Btw, @realDonaldTrump is doing a great job.

— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) January 3, 2018

Number None, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link

lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link

the mooch abides

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

I'm absolutely certain this point has been made before, but Trump legitimately sees no difference between being POTUS and being a WWE heel, does he.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

unfortunately, none of this matters

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link

Oh the pettiness of it all is the key.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link

Well, when he was participating in pro wrestling he was the most important and interesting person in the world. Now he is President and he is the most important and interesting person in the world. So really the two jobs are the same, and demand the same skills.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

i wonder if anyone's still editing these statements? that last one seemed to be directly from trump.

Trump cannot compose short, coherent sentences like that.

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

no shit but dont try and take this away from us with reason alfred

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

brief description on an xtube video too iirc


except it’s america that’s getting fucked amirite #theresistance

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link

i wonder if anyone's still editing these statements? that last one seemed to be directly from trump.

Trump cannot compose short, coherent sentences like that.

― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, January 3, 2018 2:30 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

correct use of "whom" is a real giveaway too

rob, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

i'm not listening to it to check but...

Trump’s comments about Bannon today are almost word for word what @benshapiro said about Bannon on @Jamie_Weinstein’s podcast last week.

— Matt Lewis (@mattklewis) January 3, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link

I mean the practical effect is it fractures a perceived unified front where 'the GOP' as defined downplays or actively rails against claims of collusion, Mueller's work etc. Now someone who was working with Trump out and in of the White House for a year is one record as saying 'nah, something's there.' There's already a rapid closing of ranks in response but even so -- and, as I've thought about more and more this morning, it's...interesting that Bannon seems terribly unworried about this probe, which theoretically could affect him. Makes me wonder a bit -- saw a claim earlier that he's been mentioned nowhere in Mueller's team's public interview schedule. By now you'd think they would have talked to him, and maybe they have...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link

It certainly will make the Nunes and Meadows types in the House to think twice about criticizing Mueller. After all, they had their eye firmly on a base besotted with Bannon/Breitbart.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

where's the tax returns?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link


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