All Right, Mr. DeMille, I'm Ready For My Close-Up ... It's The ILXOR's Top 101 Director Poll Results Thread

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Re. Pabst: He was one of several names on my ballot whom I expected no one else to vote for. Westfront 1918 and Kameradschaft are coming from Criterion later this month. I don't exactly recommend A Modern Hero, but it pushes some of my buttons.

And 87 is WAY too low for Capra. The Miracle Woman alone is top-ten stuff.

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Monday, 15 January 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link

Capra films are all super annoying. I guess he is a "great" director in the way people are good at sports

plax (ico), Monday, 15 January 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link

all of them, every one?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 January 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link

Yes

plax (ico), Monday, 15 January 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link

I can't speak to Capra's screwball (I loathe the genre) or human interest comedies, but all of the pre-codes and silents I've seen are prime material.

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Monday, 15 January 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

I'm not sure how The Miracle Woman is "annoying" (esp with the kind of performance Barbra Stanwyck's giving) but whatev

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 January 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link

I can't really put myself into the mindset of loathing screwball so this is probably a lost cause, but, fwiw, IHON isn't nearly as madcap as something like Bringing Up Baby

rob, Monday, 15 January 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link

I knew I’d find some other kindred soul who has a very limited amount of time for screwball

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link

IHON and Twentieth Century leave me cold. And if Capra-hatas are going to deny themselves American Madness, that's their loss.

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link

The Battle of Russia was almost screwball in its depiction of the absolute USSR beneficence towards its neighbours, pre-Barbarossa, but awesome propaganda movie. I almost felt like getting into a feight with Hitler myself after watching it quite drunk one night.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link

Looked for Miracle Woman on amazon and according to them, the bluray version of the film is It Could Happen To You with Nicolas Cage and Bridget Fonda.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 00:33 (six years ago) link

I missed today's results (I was out seeing a movie) -- Chuck Jones was the only name that made it from my ballot. Though I wish I'd voted for Leone.

LLAMAS ARE FOR CLOSERS (WilliamC), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link

I've got four so far. I'm guessing about 2/3 of my 30 make the big list; I think my #1 will place, but I'm not sure. Considered Assayas, but too much of that vote would be concentrated in one film, Carlos.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link

Capra is screwball [sic] for people who don't like screwball; hence nowhere near my ballot.

I assume Sembene will be the only African filmmaker. *tsk tsk* And his stuff is not that hard to see.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link

Been busy and didn't encounter the ballot. I hope Tarr places. I suppose Tarkovsky is a given.

Sanpaku, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 03:08 (six years ago) link

I would think quite high from Tarkovsky-related posts around here--somewhere between 5-10?

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 03:48 (six years ago) link

yeah and for sure in the top 20

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 03:53 (six years ago) link

I doubt Tarr will place

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 03:54 (six years ago) link

really? I hope he does

Dan S, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link

I think tarr has a shot

very stabbable gaius (wins), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 04:03 (six years ago) link

Not to be a tease, but some of the directors who landed in slots 102 thru 150 or so were shocking for ILX.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 04:04 (six years ago) link

I suppose with only 30-something voters anything is possible and I shouldn't be disappointed, but Sátántangó, Werckmeister Harmonies, and The Turin Horse are three of the most amazing movies I've ever seen

Dan S, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 04:21 (six years ago) link

I would call at least two of those amazing, sure -- but not nec great.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 07:34 (six years ago) link

Eric - Scarface, 1st half. Probably seen it over 10 times easy. Used to be screened on TV quite a bit.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 08:57 (six years ago) link

I will regret not voting if Tarkovsky doesn't make it. Top 5 for me.

I had drafted a shortlist but when I was under-familiar with ~ 2/3 of the nominations list I didn't feel well placed to vote. Maybe in a couple of years if I keep up my current film consumption.

call me by your name..or Finn (fionnland), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 09:34 (six years ago) link

there's no way Tarkovsky doesn't place but lately I've been pondering his ratedness - I think there's a big variation in how good his films are but nobody agrees on which are the great ones

hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 09:41 (six years ago) link

long-winded way of saying last time I watched Stalker I felt a big agnostic also he's probably not best-suited to TV viewing

hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 09:42 (six years ago) link

I very much agree here. The number of re-screenings that are happening actually lead to worship, v little critical engagement.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 10:26 (six years ago) link

(a couple of cinemas in London have bored me with constant re-screenings of Stalker stop already)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 10:28 (six years ago) link

calling HackPalma one of the 85 best is exceedingly generous, esp if John Frankenheimer doesn't appear.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 12:34 (six years ago) link

Fair warning ... today's batch ends with the last two ties of the rundown.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link

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80. Spike Lee
(466 points; 6 votes)

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:00 (six years ago) link

I've meant to subject myself to a Spike joint retrospective, but I don't know if I'm up to sussing out what I dislike about his work.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link

Capra is screwball sic] for people who don't like screwball; hence nowhere near my ballot.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

This rings true. If you hate screwball comedy based on Capra, try Leo McCarey or some other director who made that genre sing. I love screwball, but It Happened One Night is not near any list of mine even if I limit it to top 100 30s Hollywood films. There's something conservative about Capra that shines through in all his movies even if it isn' made explicit. Stanwyck is my favorite actress so I'm conflicted - he have her some big roles that maybe made her a star, but I don't care much for those movies. Certainly not Meet John Doe. Pre-code he did some interesting stuff, 'Forbidden' is great, I probably need to rewatch others.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:22 (six years ago) link

Spike's genius is in self-promotion. I still need to see the Katrina docs, which interest me more than the scripted films I've missed.

betcha Melvin van Peebles aint making it

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link

Michael Gebert once wrote that by 1933 Barbara Stanwyck had already given three or four of the best sound performanes to date.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link

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79. Jan Švankmajer
(466.5 points; 7 votes)

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link

his Alice was incredible. Although I haven't seen it since I was very young.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link

there's my cartoon guy

hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:10 (six years ago) link

not well-versed enough in cinema to have any idea what will place, which makes this fun. the only svankmajer i've seen is lunacy which was ridiculous and fun and i'm somewhat surprised to see him here

ogmor, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

Voted for him based on Alice (such a huge influence on me) and the box set of his short films which I went through last year and is almost all up to the same sort of standard.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

if anything the more abstract shorts are my favourites

hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link

he's great; didn't vote for him

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link

Ha, when we were talking about "cartoon ppl" upthread I completely forgot that Švankmajer could be considered a cartoon person. On my ballot, can't remember if he made the ranked section or not, complete genius obv.

emil.y, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link

everybody should see Conspirators of Pleasure, that's the long one where he really lets himself go the most

hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link

Everyone knows about Alice but my tip is to check out his Faust (and yes, the shorts are amazing). I haven't seen Conspirators of Pleasure, actually!

emil.y, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

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78. John Cassavetes
(477.5 points; 6 votes)

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

oof too low, made my top 5 in the end

devvvine, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link

What's your take on Cassavetes?

emil.y, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

Cassavetes this low also shocked me, acquired taste though he is.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link


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